i sure hope these pictures load. Here it is my 1983 AMC Eagle wagon. so far i have put a new (to me) power steering pump and a set of jeep cherokee rims with slightly oversized tires. Yet to be done are brakes, belts, fluids, gas tank then it'll be street legal and ready for wherever we wanna go ..... enjoy
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Looks like you got a good head start on things.
Dosen't look like it needs all that much work either. Kudos to you for saving an eagle!
i am amazed how good of shape it is in ..... lots of surprises came with it in the form of new cap, rotor, plugs (first thing i checked out), battery cables, starter, and air cleaner. The car is virtually rust free with less than 100,000 miles on the clock (from compairing the title to the the current milage). The greatest thing about the car is all of the free advertising the owner of the dump truck got from us hauling it home (he said he got 10 calls from people who noticed his truck hauling the eagle)
Today has been frustrating and has put me to the stress limit. I decided to go to the local NAPA and buy all new belts, get some fluids, and of course a can of PB Blaster. First trip: Got all 3 belts come home to install, alternator belt too long, power steering belt not near long enough, A/C belt perfect total cost at napa $71.00. Second trip: 2 belts Alternator belt PERFECT Power steering belt still too short (47 inches) so i wrap a piece of trimmer line around the pulleys to get a "rough" measurement price difference +$5.00. Third trip: 48 inch belt too long cost +$1.00 they decided to not use a belt gauge but to use a tape measure. Forth trip: they tell me that there is no such thing as a 47.5 inch 3/8 belt they send me out with another 47 inch belt was thinking i would get money back but no, I get home and low and behold still too short, I could force it on by cranking the engine but if the belt damages then no warranty no new belt. At this point I am seriously thinking of calling the scrap man and having him come get this foul beast, but then the moment of clearity 1 call to autozone and my 47.5 inch 3/8 belt ( that dosn't exist) will be delivered to me tomarrow at work ..... cost of that belt $6.00. So tomarrow i will continue the saga of my 83 eagle and hopefully get it started and charging so i can move on to the next hurdle in road worthyness
I personally try to avoid NAPA as their prices always seem to be flying higher than Eagles. Usually go to The Zone. Have had good luck so far.
Parts stores are as good as their personnel. I've had both good and bad experiences at the same store,
depending on the attitude of the people.
Lately NAPA has been leaning more toward bad, Advance OK, O'Reilly improved.
the only reason i went to napa today was cause i thought i would deal with a knowledgeable person. When i go to the closest autozone to me and tell them that i am working on my 83 eagle I tend to get the stupid pierced out kid that only replies "those cars are crap" then once asked what he drives it's always "the honda out front with the rims and exaust". Drives me nuts but I think from now on i am just gonna have to make the 45 minute round trip to the other autozone.
Did he even know what an Eagle was? Was he thinking of what they called Eagle after AMC went out of business?
I usualy try and avoid napa to. unless one of the old guys are working the till. auto value(store's been around since dinosars roamed the earth, same with the personel) is my favorite place. mostly becase of the personel though.
My .02c------I would not go to Autozone if they were giving away parts for free!!!!
10 years ago------>
Based on looking for spark plug wires for my 71 jeep (225 V6). Checker had none in stock, but would order, went to Autozone (2 blocks away), asked for the wires, was told--WITHOUT EVEN CHECKIING their computer "WE DON'T CARRY JEEP PARTS"******
Went another 3 blocks to NAPA, in stock,got them etc.
Presently live 17 miles from ANY parts store in one direction, 46 miles the other way, both stores are CARQUEST, both have replaced NAPA stores and do know what Eagles (and Jeeps) are!!
If you are not in a hurry--use Rock Auto!!!!
Parts stores are only as good as the folks who work in them. Most get there stuff fromn the same places.
These are the ones I have. Same as the originals that were on there and acc. to what Rockauto advises for 1983 with A/C.
http://forums.amceaglenest.com/index.php?topic=18165.0
I have had good and bad experiences with Napa, O'Reilly's and Auto Zone. Except with NApa the experiences have all been bad. I had a guy argue with me about what remote start to get for my wife's Geo when we had it. He kept trying to sell me one that had the ability to open electronic locks and I didn't need that as the Geo had manual locks and doors. He says, "Well with this unit you'd have them (electronic locks)."
Somehow I couldn't convince him that a remote system wouldn't magically install lock motors in my Geo doors. He was really rude about it too.
47.5 inch belt SUCCESS!!!! ended up having to get a battery cable as well today. But I finally took it for a drive the brakes are SHOT, tranny lines are leaking and the trans works only if you manually change the gears, fuel tank is like a GPS (leaves a trail so you can always make it home :P) but it started and moved under it's own power. i am super stoked but the bummer is that with the work that needs to be done I doubt that i will be able to use it to drive to Utah next month to pick up my oldest son. I am gonna try and thrash to get it there but we'll just have to see what time and the eagle are gonna allow me to do
When my heater core blew I ran to the Zone for a 5/8 x 3/4 sleeve to bypass it. They did not have it but had it delivered in 30 minutes while I waited. I shop for countermen, not stores although Napa has good quality. i avoid 20 year olds when possible No offense but nothing takes the place of experience.
UPDATE!! the brakes now work had to oil the sliders on the front rotors and my leak was a bad line that went across the rear axle. Just got back home from buying a new aux trans cooler, some new steel lines, and a gas tank repair kit. I have found a brand gas tank for my eagle for around 150 bucks from one of the distributors at work so that is on the "buy list". so tonight I should have an eagle that runs, charges, moves and stops with out leaving any trails ... I'm stoked
BOYS....GO EASY ON NAPA.iTS UNFORTUNATE THAT THEY GO THROUGH STAFF SO MUCH.,BUT IF YOU CAN GET THE OLDER GUY HE USUALLY CAN HELP YOU.NAPA HAS THE MOST ACCESS TO AUTOMOTIVE RESOURCES THAN ANY OTHER PARTS STORE...BAR NONE.THE PROBLEM IS FINDING THE GUY THATS WILLING TO HELP,OR SOMETIMES THEY ARE SO SHORT STAFFED THEY ACTUALLY DONT HAVE TIME TO HELP.....TIP- IF YOUR NOT IN A HURRY, SAY "CAN I LEAVE IT WITH YOU" ?HERES MY NAME AND NUMBER...THANKS.
I try to be reasonable; I'm in a form of customer service, so I know what it's like.
However, when it comes my turn to be waited on, I consider my issue every bit as important as anyone else's,
and if they don't have time to deal with it they need to correct their shortcomings.
I have been treated exceptionally well at the NAPA store I frequent. It is at the state warehouse.
I have also walked out, with some others, when it didn't look like I would get waited on in a reasonable time.
To be fair, every other store I go to sometimes has the same problems.
Quote from: jim on June 30, 2010, 10:52:04 PM
I try to be reasonable; I'm in a form of customer service, so I know what it's like.
However, when it comes my turn to be waited on, I consider my issue every bit as important as anyone else's,
and if they don't have time to deal with it they need to correct their shortcomings.
I have been treated exceptionally well at the NAPA store I frequent. It is at the state warehouse.
I have also walked out, with some others, when it didn't look like I would get waited on in a reasonable time.
To be fair, every other store I go to sometimes has the same problems.
I am sure there are some that deserve kudos, but not the guys in Papillion. They do not have turnover. At least it has been the same guys for the last 6 years. I know a couple of the guys have been there for around 20 years. I just do not like a place that immediately assumes you are an idiot and argues with the customer like these guys do. I especially lost it after arguing with me whether my Geo has auto locks and that a remote state would magically make it have auto locks.
When I went in to ask about supporting the AMC Eagle Nest Meet, the guy laughed and walked away from me. I have nothing against Napa as a whole, but seriously I do not see how they say in business with tatics like that. I also went in there for a part for my Eagle once and I had just talked to them on the phone about the very part. When I got there, not only did they say they didn't have it, but they told me I should have called first and to stop wasting his time. Note: I was the only one in the store at the time.
THE UPDATE!!! i got the tank installed that i picked up from Mav, went to start it and no gas. Searching for my problem i found that my fuel lines are in pretty sad shape so i went about replacing them. Everything going smoothly i get the new fuel lines on and the car started again. feeling good with my progress for the day i decided to call it and mess with the wife's SUV some more. While under the SUV (going nowhere) I look over to the eagle to see a drip. Upon investigation i need to install new brake lines as well (BUMMER). So Now I have an eagle the purrs like a kitten but will not stop to save it's life ........ My lord cars are fun :P
It seems like always something wants our attention next.
Quote from: IowaEagle on July 25, 2010, 10:25:28 AM
It seems like always something wants our attention next.
Isn't that the truth.
Bill I am glad you are making progress. That is great.
Quote from: 83Eagle! on July 25, 2010, 09:02:40 PM
Quote from: IowaEagle on July 25, 2010, 10:25:28 AM
It seems like always something wants our attention next.
Isn't that the truth.
Bill I am glad you are making progress. That is great.
it is slow progress but it is coming along. Right now I have to contend with getting my new daily driver on the road before my pickup finally fails me (trans been slipping for about 4 months) I am hoping to have the eagle on the road this fall, but I am not rushing it just making sure that everything is perfect
what a bummer, I was looking over the eagle today and i found the worst possible thing that I somehow overlooked. Inside the right front wheel well above the boxed frame A ROT HOLE!!! this is the game changer for the wagon and throws me way off my estimated finish time. I checked the left front wheel well and in the same place it's scaly with rust but no hole yet. It looks like i am going to have to get the car indoors and remove the front suspension and do some digging (literally) and make a few patch panels then undercoat the living heck out of it. I am going to start working on a jig table to strap the eagle to so that i can easily support the car and go through the entire underside without laying on my back.
Surprise! Get 'er saved Bill.
your tellin me surprize :P i am stocked and astounded to say that the eagle does not leak a drop of oil, coolant, or trans fluid. the cardboard i put under it after the last small drive around the property has been clean for nearly a week
Quote from: thereverendbill on August 04, 2010, 05:55:53 PM
your tellin me surprize :P i am stocked and astounded to say that the eagle does not leak a drop of oil, coolant, or trans fluid. the cardboard i put under it after the last small drive around the property has been clean for nearly a week
check the oil it may be empty ;D
Quote from: Pa sx/4 on August 04, 2010, 06:19:08 PM
Quote from: thereverendbill on August 04, 2010, 05:55:53 PM
your tellin me surprize :P i am stocked and astounded to say that the eagle does not leak a drop of oil, coolant, or trans fluid. the cardboard i put under it after the last small drive around the property has been clean for nearly a week
check the oil it may be empty ;D
and the rest of the fluids too.
lol, that was my first thought but everything is right up to the line
SUcks about the rust, but I am sure you'll get it figured out.
small update on my car:
I picked up an AWESOME automatic transmission console for my car today (almost took mav's .... soooooo tempting) when i got home I just couldn't resist installing it (rear brake line still needs bought, bent, and installed) so here is the picture of my wagon lookin good with yet another place to store stuff
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I know it's black and i have a nutmeg interior, but I like it that way so it's staying. If anyone is looking at the screen puzzled that is my little concrete turtle "chip" He has been a project mascot for me for years and has been crusing with me cross country at least 6 times (shoulda had him in the bravada, but he don't roll like that :P)
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while installing the console i had a little helper. he didn't do much but hold that screw driver (and he wouldn't give it up for nothing)
Next thing i have to do is spray my sport steering wheel black to match the console (I got a tan one and didn't realize that tan and nutmeg are totaly different colors)
We are almost ready for the road!!! I went out today and bought a new brake line (the one I had came up missing), got it bent up and installed. Right now the current project is opening up the hub centers on the ford wheels that are currently on the car so they mount flat against the rotors/drums (gotta think safety). plains are running straight and true to have it licenced, insured, inspected, and on the road in 2 weeks. Just in the nick of time because now the Bravada's 4 wheel drive is working and chewing up the front left CV joint. Hopefully i will make the deadline for this months EOTM and have a picture of the car sitting next to the sign at work (I think that would qualify as an eagle at work :P). That is all for now I am super stoked for the final test drive before legality
final test drives are great. Good luck. It was great to talk to you today. Congrats on the progress on the Eagle.
the last test drive has been postponed ...... wheels put up a bigger fight than expected ....... i am seriously thinking about getting my semi junk tires mounted on my new rims on monday
Everything is done and we got to take it for a drive tonight. It drove really well except it didn't downshift when climbing the hill to my cousin's place (kick down not hooked up). All and all i am VERY pleased with the car, so pleased in fact that it gets to join it's post AMC brothern out in the front of the house. Next step is going to be recover the headliner, add a radio that works, get some plates/inspection, and take it for a nice long drive.
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1 step forward and 2 steps back has been the motto of my day today. I took the headliner board out of the eagle tonight so that i can recover it in the next couple weeks. I decided to put all of the trim, visors, and lights back in place so that noting gets damaged then as luck would have it the pass side visor breaks on me :(. No big deal, I'll just hit up some places after the car is all legal and find a new one.
The brakes have been a little funny on the car since the new lines. They feel great if the car is not running, but once the car is running you have to put the pedal through the floor it feels to get them to engage. So with the help of my old man we start to bleed the brakes where out of nowhere the horn starts going. I disconnected the battery to get it to quit and took the horn cover off the steering wheel to find that it is a royal mess (plastic tube that hold horn wire is broken and the spring is somewhere in between the steering wheel and the lock ring).
About the only good thing that came out of tinkering with the car today was going out to get a few extra keys made and the store clerk totally blown away that i have a 1983 AMC Eagle with all power options, leather interior, good looking body, and less than 100k miles. he was so excited that he asked if it was in the parking lot so he could take a look at it (not legal for the road yet).
So, that is where i am at now broken visor, horn that doesn't quit, and brakes that work but not in the manner that i would prefer them to work
Still progress is good.
Its the story many of us can tell.
Very true Doug
I was talking with the mechanics at the shop today and master cylinder came up twice. i am going to go ahead and get the car inspected and licenced on Tuesday as planed, then start looking more into the brake issue. The horn i am just going to unplug until i get some column guts from a GM car and the visor i am just going to live with. On an interesting side note, i found a spare set of keys for the car on a wire behind the grille so i decided to try out the square ignition key to no avail. the round door key works on the locks and the ignition so i am guessing that someone has been in the column putzing around with the tumblers at one point
That is a very interesting discovery and a very strange storage spot for some keys.
to be honest I never knew they where there and I had the grille off to install the aux tranny cooler ;D I put them back just in case i ever lock my keys in the car (but i will probly forget they are there)
Quote from: thereverendbill on September 19, 2010, 11:10:32 PM
to be honest I never knew they where there and I had the grille off to install the aux tranny cooler ;D I put them back just in case i ever lock my keys in the car (but i will probly forget they are there)
Not sure you want to let me know that.
brandon, if your ever out here all you have to do is ask ;D
update: the car is ready for the road, BUT i can't get plates transferred to it because the paperwork was not done in the correct manner from previous owners (thank you common wealth state A-holes!!!). So today after work I figured i give it a long shot and call the car lot that last legally owned my eagle back in 2002, as a stroke of luck they are still in the same place selling cars. SO i told the guy that answered the phone what was going on with many times of him saying "I have no idea, I don't know what car you are talking about" this went on for about 10 minutes until i finally asked if he knows anyone that knows anything that worked there. He responded "the secretary would know, but she has a second job (like I care if she has 10 jobs)" so i asked if i could leave my name and number he said yes and took it down then asked "what the year make and model of the car" so i told him 1983 AMC eagle, he interupted with "brown station wagon". I said "Not Brown, copper brown metallic" he said that he would have the secretary get a hold of me. I am just fuming mad over all of this because i have The title for the car, I have the car, and i put insurance on the car, but because I live in a state where it is mandatory to have a middle man in dealings so i can't use said car. Sorry, i had to vent and get that off my chest. These are the days where I wish i would have just stayed in Utah
Quote from: thereverendbill on September 20, 2010, 05:44:20 PM
brandon, if your ever out here all you have to do is ask ;D
I used to torture a couple friends who did not know I had keys to their cars by randomly moving them a lot.
I hope it gets straightened out.
update: (i feel like that old unsolved mystery show everytime I post that)
I went on the LONG 2 hour drive to the car lot that used to own my car, we arrive and all of the lights are out but the door is open. We walked in and said hello and a gentileman comes from the back and does the usual "can i help you with something". I showed him the title to the car and said "Since i can't get a phonecall, i decided to bring down the title, let's get this done I'm sick of looking at my car instead of driving it". Then came the usual "The Secretary isn't in and i can't do any paperwork" I reply "get the owner on the phone, my next stop is the state police barracks to have your license revoked for selling a car with an open title". less than 5 min latter the owner was there telling me how mad he is that the car wasn't junked. After about 2 phone calls we set up a time on Monday to get the car plated. Unfortunately it is gonna require another 2 hour trip to the shop to get it all said and done. So far for my eagle i have been to Illinois twice and across PA twice. talk about dedication
I admire your ability to stay calm. I wouldn't have been able to do that. Hope it all works out.
IT IS LEGALLY MINE!!!!
As of 3:30 this afternoon the paperwork is notarized, sadly it's is technically my wife's because i was unable to take the time off of work to get the paperwork. She wasn't happy about making the drive but she did it for me ;D Also as a way to try and put the hose to me yet again the shop decided that they would not like to participate in the process of the plate transfer, so a little latter in the week my wife has to go to our local notary and transfer the plates to the eagle. All and all i am happy and the icing on the cake is that my wife remembered to jot down the mileage of the eagle before the trip so the title states that it indeed UNDER 100,000 miles (99k and some change), instead of exempt, exceeds mechanical limits. I am in the home stretch of my eagle saga
Just started reading this today. Great stuff man, love the dedication. I'm glad it's yours now! That's great to hear, keep working on it...and post us some more pictures, I wanna see more of your car!
what would you like to see? My wife has brought to my attention that i have more pictures of the eagle on my computer than I do of the kids (come to think of it, she is correct) ;D At the moment i am getting ready to finally get rid of the trans fluid leak once and for all, also found out that the front universal joints are shot and need replaced, and my car is in 4 wheel drive all the time
Anything, show me all of your pictures...I don't care! lol
Also, how did your car run right off the bat? Because mine isn't running so well after replacing everything that should make it run like a champ. What did you all do? Or just everything like you said in the beginning posts...? Just kinda curious, because I'm wondering if I'm going to need to do some major engine work on my '83 Limited...
well, I guess i can do a sort of recap on it
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when I got it home and off the trailer, It ran and drove under it's own power but had no power steering pump, leaked trans fluid, leaked gas (holes all over the tank), 4 bald tires, rims rotten (only 1 tire was able to hold air due to how bad the rims where), rust scale all over the hood
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This is the shot of it with 4 tires that accualy hold air (from the blue jeep in the background) this is also the point where we installed the power steering pump that we got with the car. Still leaking trans fluid and gas
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installation of the new trans cooler along with new trans lines (still have the leak, should have replaced every inch of the lines instead of the easy route we took)
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I traded the cherokee 15 inch wheels for a set of ford ranger 14 inch wheels (winter rims)
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the spring/summer wheels for the car (waiting on a good deal to come in form of good looking tires) 14x7 fronts 14x8 rears
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I ditched the stock flat hood in favor of a power bulge hood (the one from the "How to repair your power bulge hood" thread)
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a few photos of the interior all cleaned up
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the SX/4 console in the car before the new shifter was installed
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The eagle sitting in the current AMC/AMC inspired SUV's I have at the moment
I have to take a look because I know I have more pictures of the car floating around either on the camera or somewhere on the hard drive. Also get ready within the next week or so for me to get pictures of it out and about and OFF the property ;D
As far as running issues i haven't had any with the car except with the stock air cleaner box and the air doors gaulded shut (installed a chrome open element filter and adapter). I also have to take the carb apart and replace some gaskets cause it is getting damp or I may just replace the carb all together. i have a little body work to do on the car (dent in the left fender, dent in the rear post, extra antenna hole) and i am thinking of removing all of the door moldings (missing one on the rear right door)
I am glad the Eagle is finally yours. That is great my friend. Good luck with it. That is a very nice Eagle you have there.
thanks brandon, anyway i can talk you into uploading the pics I sent you to this thread. The dang dog ate the cord that plugs my camera into the computer
Quote from: thereverendbill on October 05, 2010, 01:54:54 AM
thanks brandon, anyway i can talk you into uploading the pics I sent you to this thread. The dang dog ate the cord that plugs my camera into the computer
Accidentially wiped the memory on the cell phone clean today trying to take pictures at Morgan's swim lessons. I will look, but I am pretty sure that I do not have any of them anymore. I am really sorry.
Quote from: 83Eagle! on October 05, 2010, 02:02:20 AM
Quote from: thereverendbill on October 05, 2010, 01:54:54 AM
thanks brandon, anyway i can talk you into uploading the pics I sent you to this thread. The dang dog ate the cord that plugs my camera into the computer
Accidentially wiped the memory on the cell phone clean today trying to take pictures at Morgan's swim lessons. I will look, but I am pretty sure that I do not have any of them anymore. I am really sorry.
on to plain B for me then, get a way to upload photos on the computer once more :P
It has plates!!!!! err plate :P For the next 10 days i get to run truck plates until the new ones, I tried VERY hard to keep the truck plates on it insisting that it is not a passenger car but a light truck. Sadly I lost the battle, but the war is won. next step is getting it inspected and then i can proceed to drive the wheels off of it :P
Yes it is a light truck, at least 81 and up are aparently. But what do they know? Obviously nothing. At least you got the plate, I still do not have mine.
Bill do you have a photobucket account? That's what I use for pictures. Sorry about them getting deleted.
Congratulations! And kudos to your wife for her good work. I was able, the other day, when I was shopping at, of all places a Menards (like Home Depot and Lowes) to purchase this USB adpater kit that has a normal USB plug at one end and then adapters for printers, camera's and another end that I forget what it was for. I think it was like ten bucks. Maybe you can find something like that.
Quote from: 83Eagle! on October 06, 2010, 06:23:22 PM
Bill do you have a photobucket account? That's what I use for pictures. Sorry about them getting deleted.
yeah i photobucket, but no way to get the photos from the camera to the photobucket (thanks dog) ;D
Quote from: IowaEagle on October 06, 2010, 07:42:25 PM
Congratulations! And kudos to your wife for her good work. I was able, the other day, when I was shopping at, of all places a Menards (like Home Depot and Lowes) to purchase this USB adpater kit that has a normal USB plug at one end and then adapters for printers, camera's and another end that I forget what it was for. I think it was like ten bucks. Maybe you can find something like that.
That is a real good idea, I was just going to get a card reader. But with little hands running around the cards would be lost who knows where then i am buying more cards :P ..... thanks for the idea doug
I hope you can find one. Yeah, those cords like to hide.
If you find one of those cables Doug is talking about buy 2 of them. From my experience, they like to wander off.
Hey thanks for the pictures man! Looks good and nice work!
:)
today was a good day! no more trans leak (replaced the final pieces of factory hard line with new hard line). Found out the universal joints in the front shaft are toast and need replaced, LOTS of cut off vacume lines leading to the car to be in 4wd all the time (is that possible?), gonna swap out the brake booster in high hopes of curing the brake problem (it's liveible but I want them perfect). I got the most accomplished by installing the rear plate that reads "truck". I took pictures but i still have no way of uploading them :P TILL NEXT TIME!!!
Since I am half an hour away from going to get the eagle inspected (YAY!!) I decided to throw 2 new pictures up
(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j261/thereverendbill/100_1192.jpg)
the new air cleaner assembly
(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j261/thereverendbill/100_1193.jpg)
IT HAS PLATES!!!
I will update when i return, like usual some problems come up just before inspection in the form of a front u joint going to heck and the oil pan has now gotten a leak. So after inspection i am off to find an oil pan or I may just take to old one off and repair it. Anyways i am off to get that sticker, wish me luck ;D
Luck wished.
Good luck Bill
Well, as of right now not inspected yet. Went down to the garage and there was a sign for me that said he had some things come up this morning and he will call latter today and get me in. The oil pan is REAL bad, past the point where i can save it. So we spent a better part of today at the salvage yard getting eagle parts (4 sedans, 1 SX/4, 1 wagon, and a liftback concord?) I took some pictures on my phone of the cars and the wagon on it's side so that we could cut out the front diff to get the oil pan out, but I am unable to find my micro to regular size SD card adapter so i can't post them (and i am going nuts about it). I also picked up some of the odds and ends things that i wanted for the car and a handful of emblems. Now I must relax and play the waiting game, and i hate the waiting game
Sounds like you hit the mother lode of cast off Eagles in your area.
It is legal!!! just got back from the inspection station. Still have the oil leak but we figured it'd come back because soaping the oil pan only last so long ;D
Quote from: IowaEagle on October 09, 2010, 07:03:45 PM
Sounds like you hit the mother lode of cast off Eagles in your area.
indeed doug, i have a deal worked out with him at the moment that I will give him the price he paid plus like 100 bucks for and sedans or kammbacks he comes across, he has the right idea by not crushing any cars that will still yield parts manufactured before 1991.
Good for the both of you. Make sure to thank him from all of us.
I thought it was funny cause in one corner of the yard he has like 20 Yugos that look like drivers, i asked about them and the only respance I got was a head shake, lol
WOW good timing, i found my card adapter!!!! without further adue PICTURES!!!!!
(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j261/thereverendbill/100910122430.jpg)
the whole gang of parts eagles
(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j261/thereverendbill/100910122505.jpg)
the only SX/4 in the place
(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j261/thereverendbill/100910122455.jpg)
one of the nicest 4 door sedans i have seen perfect interior but sadly the floorboards are gone and the rails are toast :(
(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j261/thereverendbill/100910122539.jpg)
(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j261/thereverendbill/100910122332.jpg)
the quick way to get an oil pan out of a wagon (some torching involved) i will say i am sad to cut this car the frame and floorboards where perfect, but someone had already put a fork through the windshield to lift it (the owner of the yard made it clear that he is now employed elsewhere, but I got it's visors!!!)
(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j261/thereverendbill/100910122353.jpg)
(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j261/thereverendbill/100910122413.jpg)
this car made me scratch my head because i have never seen one before, i was offered to buy it but there will never be a title for it because it was turned in for scrap over 4 years go :( ..... is this a VAM Lerma?
That is a nice collection. My first thought was that it was a VAM Lerma. But it is more likely a 78 AMX. That makes more sense and the back side window is the proof. Thanks for the pictures.
That's a 78 amx!!!! Look at the Targa band on the top of it... A 78 amx...sorry if u read my username u see I'm Waco for 78 Concords... ;D u know that's worth saving just that car... That's worth something right there if it's in good shape... Especially in sunshine yellow... Rare 78 amx color... Usually they were all black. There was black red white and yellow... Wow nice...
If that body is good and it is a 78 AMX, Bill that would definitely be worth saving. I know people would be looking for those parts.
What is a VAM Lerma u guys are talking about??? Never heard of such a thing...
Quote from: amc78concord on October 09, 2010, 11:43:51 PM
What is a VAM Lerma u guys are talking about??? Never heard of such a thing...
Mexican amc
Based on Bill's description of the vehicle over the phone it is the first car that came to mind. I forgot about the 78 AMX's at the time. But the back window on the side now that I can see the car Bill was talking about you are definitely right that it is a 78 AMX.
http://www.planethoustonamx.com/press_photos/81_VAM_AMC_lerma1.jpg
http://www.planethoustonamx.com/press_photos/81_AMC_VAM_lerma2.jpg
The VAM Lerma is a vehicle that was sold in Mexico. It is basically a cross between a Concord and a Sprit.
over the phone the only name I could come up with was a concord lift back, The problem with that 78 is that the floors are gone, and by gone i mean there is grass growing through the car. i am going to try and make it out there again this week (more likely Saturday) and look for the build year. Like i said before the car could be saved but it will never be able to drive on the road again without swapping the vin numbers with another, and i am not the type that has a car that i can't use and enjoy
That SX/4 appears to be an SX Flyer -- a regional model that we have only seen a couple of around here. So, that body would be worth saving, intact.
Here is a picture from back in the day (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/IowaEagle/SX4Flyer.jpg)
And the thread about this car: http://forums.amceaglenest.com/index.php?topic=5476.0
i just got back from taking the eagle in town, sadly the wheels are SHOT. when i accurate up to around 20 mph you can feel the rear walking around then it clears up. Had the car going 85 on the freeway though (because the numbers seem to stop there :P) and it drives like back in the day. Tomarrow i am going to bite the bullet and buy a set of new tires for the "summer" wheels and probably finish out the year on them. Depending on when the tires can get in i might have some more pictures of the sporty A/R wheels on it.
Sucks about the tires. A fresh set for winter will be nice.
found my out of balance last night in the form of the hub holes needed a little more grinding. Runs true now, I am in the process of getting a set of tires for my A/R wheels and run them for about a month and a half before switching to the studs. As far as my rusted through oil pan we applied some JB weld to it tonight and have it baking overnight with a heat lamp in high hopes that it seals and no more oil leak. I took the car to work today and I just enjoy the car too much to take it back off the road to install the oil pan I picked up. I figure here in a month or so i will get in the mood to swap out the pans and fix it the correct way.
I can understand that hub hole thing. Been there done that.
Hope it works Bill.
Sorry about going off topic again, but the Vam Lerma versions from AMC...are simply amazing... They should have sold them in every country...
Quote from: amc78concord on October 12, 2010, 04:06:35 PM
Sorry about going off topic again, but the Vam Lerma versions from AMC...are simply amazing... They should have sold them in every country...
that isn't off topic at all ;D I am still new to the other AMC models, heck i have never even seen a concord in person. My father has found a javelin that he wants to pick up and restore and i got word from a guy i work with about a guy whose father recently passed away and he inherited an AMC (model unknown) with 33,000 original miles. I am waiting to have the gentleman contact me so that i can take a look and offer a price. he was stoked that i own an AMC and am interested in his late father's pride and joy car.
The Mexican built AMC's showed a lot of creativity. The Lerma is a good example how AMC was able to make so many variations from the same basic car. The Hornet was very versatile and served AMC well.
May I suggest you visit the AMC Heritage Forums to learn a whole lot more about AMC and its predecessors. The Heritage Forum is primarily education based rather than technical. Of course, everyone is welcome to contribute to their knowledge base. http://www.forum.route66rambler.com/
oh yeah, might as well as put an update in since i am doing work to it to keep it on the road. My fuel milage is looking to be near 20 MPG stuck in 4 wheel drive. oil consumption for today was a good 5 quarts to get to work and go to lunch, 4 quarts to get home. We repaired 3 holes with JB weld last night and 2 more sprang up on the 3 mile journey to work (1 towards the bottom of the pan draining all the oil that was in it). All day at work i was getting the friendly people telling me "your car has an oil leak" after about the 5th person i just starting replying "not leaking, marking it's territory". So after work i drained the remaining oil in the pan, quite fast when you have 2 drain holes i must say :P. I then sanded, wire brushed, sanded some more, applied acitone, and coated every single spot where i think there is going to be a leak with the remaining JB weld. Again i know I should just bite the bullet and install the new pan, but i have this JB weld here just screaming at me to be used. Tomarrow is new wheel and tire day and just maybe i can get the car to calm down and keep it's oil
You got the extra special AMC rust prevention package.
i am beginning to think this is because the plastic valve cover don't leak. the oil pan feels the need to pick up the slack :P
AMC vehicles watched out for their owners. If one component failed to do its job other ones were known to step in.
hey doug there are several lermas here in cuernavaca, some of them seemed to be in good conditions the one i use to see around here is a silver one i will try to take a picture of one of them.
Quote from: EAGLER on October 12, 2010, 09:31:54 PM
hey doug there are several lermas here in cuernavaca, some of them seemed to be in good conditions the one i use to see around here is a silver one i will try to take a picture of one of them.
please do, I am interested in seeing a color photo of one. see if you can get some interior shots as well
That would be great Eagler! I would not think there would be many still in existence. I would like to share your pictures over at the AMC Heritage Forum too -- we do have a small VAM section there. Of course you are welcome to go there and post them yourself.
Quote from: IowaEagle on October 12, 2010, 07:23:23 PM
You got the extra special AMC rust prevention package.
Funny how many AMCs came with that option (or is it developed it?)
Quote from: thereverendbill on October 12, 2010, 07:25:08 PM
i am beginning to think this is because the plastic valve cover don't leak. the oil pan feels the need to pick up the slack :P
Quote from: IowaEagle on October 12, 2010, 07:36:36 PM
AMC vehicles watched out for their owners. If one component failed to do its job other ones were known to step in.
Hahaha! That's great. Bill don't jinx yourself talking about your valve cover like that.
True, lets not jinx the valve cover and then have other leaks develop.
at this point I am ready for it to start leaking :P. But then i have a good excuse to tell the Mrs. that i need to buy one. She already caught me looking up prices and said "you don't need one yours is fine, no leaks" ;D
Quote from: thereverendbill on October 12, 2010, 09:54:16 PM
at this point I am ready for it to start leaking :P. But then i have a good excuse to tell the Mrs. that i need to buy one. She already caught me looking up prices and said "you don't need one yours is fine, no leaks" ;D
Sounds like she pays attention to the Eagle. My wife could care less about it.
Quote from: 83Eagle! on October 12, 2010, 10:05:17 PM
Quote from: thereverendbill on October 12, 2010, 09:54:16 PM
at this point I am ready for it to start leaking :P. But then i have a good excuse to tell the Mrs. that i need to buy one. She already caught me looking up prices and said "you don't need one yours is fine, no leaks" ;D
Sounds like she pays attention to the Eagle. My wife could care less about it.
she only pays attention to the money i throw at cars ;D She has made it clear that she isn't going to drive it and she prefers she never rides in it. I have a surprize in store for her though, i will be picking her up from the hospital in nothing less than the eagle wagon. My last 2 children have ridden in AMCs or AMC inspired SUVs from the hospital to home. My daughter got the ride in my 86 cherokee and my son (youngest)rode home in my old 91 Grand Cherokee
The safe way to return home.
91 Grand Cherokee? I thought they started making the Grand Cherokee in 1993? Just curious.
Quote from: 83Eagle! on October 12, 2010, 11:32:17 PM
91 Grand Cherokee? I thought they started making the Grand Cherokee in 1993? Just curious.
sorry, grand wagoneer. I am loosing my mind tring to remedy this oil leak
Quote from: thereverendbill on October 13, 2010, 04:56:29 PM
Quote from: 83Eagle! on October 12, 2010, 11:32:17 PM
91 Grand Cherokee? I thought they started making the Grand Cherokee in 1993? Just curious.
sorry, grand wagoneer. I am loosing my mind tring to remedy this oil leak
No problem. Wish I was there to help. Sorry I was just curious.
Quote from: 83Eagle! on October 13, 2010, 04:58:02 PM
Quote from: thereverendbill on October 13, 2010, 04:56:29 PM
Quote from: 83Eagle! on October 12, 2010, 11:32:17 PM
91 Grand Cherokee? I thought they started making the Grand Cherokee in 1993? Just curious.
sorry, grand wagoneer. I am loosing my mind tring to remedy this oil leak
No problem. Wish I was there to help. Sorry I was just curious.
the real fix to the problem is to just install another pan, I am starting to think that that is what i am going to have to do this weekend
That does not sound like fun.
well, tonight or technically tomarrow (12 AM) we are going to put oil in it again and drive it around a little and see if the leak is gone (fingers crossed). I do know the new pan will be on it sometime soon because we are planning to take the eagle to Florida. So after the oil pan fix we are going to get the cruise working, install a radio, and recover the headliner and install it. there is no order to what we are doing just doing whatever we feel like doing first, I think that the radio will end up last on the list because i like to hear the car. Yup, it sounds that good ;D
NO MORE LEAKS!!!! i can now drive the car and have no idea how to get back home :P Also the new wheels are installed whatcha think?
(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j261/thereverendbill/1983%20eagle%20wagon/000_0002.jpg)
(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j261/thereverendbill/1983%20eagle%20wagon/000_0001.jpg)
Nice! What do you mean you have no way to get back home?
oil trail :P
Bread crumbs? Great news and nice wheels.
So is this the JB Weld fix working?
Quote from: jim on October 14, 2010, 08:43:03 PM
So is this the JB Weld fix working?
So far so good, only took 2 tubes ;D next step is to maybe take some truck bed coating and coat the oil pan so it will never leak
Remember, a repaired chain is only as strong as the next weakest link. I know, I know, not quite how it goes but I changed it. I sure do hope it holds.
Quote from: thereverendbill on October 14, 2010, 07:11:11 PM
oil trail :P
Sorry I asked. I should have known. I was thinking more literally. Hahaha
Glad the fix is working. I agree with putting a few coats of bedliner on it. That should help reinforce.
I know Doug, i have an oil pan to put on the car that is in great shape. Thinking of all of that work makes me cringe and keeps me awake at night :o on Tuesday i am going to pick up some paint and a 1 piece pan gasket. i am going to try and run it the way it is until either it is time to change the oil or it starts leaking again which ever comes first. Kinda funny thing happened though tonight, me and my father took the car out to get some pizza and while we where getting ready to get in the car we hear "where did you find that mustang station wagon?" So i got to educate someone tonight about eagles :P ....... I am still chuckling over the mustang wagon comment
Mustang Wagon? That's a new one. Have not heard that before.
Quote from: 83Eagle! on October 14, 2010, 09:21:58 PM
Mustang Wagon? That's a new one. Have not heard that before.
lol to be honest i was looking around the parking lot for a mustang wagon, i mean i dunno how anyone could mistake my eagle for a mustang
Quote from: thereverendbill on October 14, 2010, 09:25:18 PM
Quote from: 83Eagle! on October 14, 2010, 09:21:58 PM
Mustang Wagon? That's a new one. Have not heard that before.
lol to be honest i was looking around the parking lot for a mustang wagon, i mean i dunno how anyone could mistake my eagle for a mustang
I know there were prototype Mustang Wagons made in the 60's. I don't know if any were produced. Time to google.
Haha...Mustang wagon Take that as a compliment! LOL! ;D
Quote from: amc78concord on October 14, 2010, 10:48:02 PM
Haha...Mustang wagon Take that as a compliment! LOL! ;D
I might have if I was even remotely a ford fan :P I am working very hard to take all of the FoMoCo parts off my eagle and replace them with the better GM components ;D
Mustang wagon ?????????????????????????????????????????????????
Quote from: IowaEagle on October 15, 2010, 07:55:21 PM
Mustang wagon ?????????????????????????????????????????????????
Not that it looks anything like an Eagle, but a prototype was made...
http://www.muscularmustangs.com/database/stangprotowagon.php
Quote from: thereverendbill on October 15, 2010, 05:25:40 PM
Quote from: amc78concord on October 14, 2010, 10:48:02 PM
Haha...Mustang wagon Take that as a compliment! LOL! ;D
I might have if I was even remotely a ford fan :P I am working very hard to take all of the FoMoCo parts off my eagle and replace them with the better GM components ;D
:rotfl::laughing9: :laughing4: :laughing1: You too Eh?, hahaha (sorry I had to laugh at that one cause I cringe at that four letter "F" word, LOL!
Since I haven't done anything with this thread in a while (been kinda busy) I decided to post 2 more shots of my eagle .... parking garage shots :P enjoy
(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j261/thereverendbill/1983%20eagle%20wagon/100_0124.jpg)
(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j261/thereverendbill/1983%20eagle%20wagon/100_0123.jpg)
Quote from: carver on November 21, 2010, 06:18:20 PM
Billl; Why would you be busy? Only have a newborn in the house. No need to sleep either ;) Lots of time to do stuff.
newborn does nothing but sleep, the other 3 are driving me up the walls ;D
what size are those rims and tires, also whats the backspacing?
the rims are 14x6 fronts 14x8 rears tires are 205/75/14s ..... I have no idea about the back spacing
think I can put these wrangler wheels on with 225x75x15...think I will be ok?
i dont know about a mustang station wagon ,but i have always thought my wagon looked like a muscle car station wagon. from behind anyway. the front isnt quite right though. hmm fabrication time.
it has been a little bit of time before i have had a chance to do anything besides drive it, so today I painted up the new grille and installed it
(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j261/thereverendbill/1983%20eagle%20wagon/100_0179.jpg)
whatcha think?
I still have to decide wiether I want to put the eagle script in the grille or AMC (leaning heavily towards AMC)
I like the grille. I want one of those. No one has responded to my wanted ad for the grille or the mirror.
I am on the hunt for 1 more to put on my SX/4 once it is back on the road (to keep the twins theme)
That grill looks pretty sharp, what's it from?
That's a Concord Grille
Looks good. Keep 'em guessing, go with the AMC logo.
Quote from: IowaEagle on December 08, 2010, 07:26:10 PM
Looks good. Keep 'em guessing, go with the AMC logo.
Agreed.
If I get one I want to find the Eagle script logo from an International Eagle Tractor truck.
Nice. That is the same grille I am going to use. Actually it will be the whole front clip from the Concord. Also I was thinking about blacking out hood as well.
Nice!! Similar to the grille we have in the sx4. I'd say definitely the AMC logo on the grille, mainly because it would be kinda funny for both it and the hood say Eagle, lol.
Quote from: shaggimo on December 09, 2010, 07:45:31 AM
I'd say definitely the AMC logo on the grille, mainly because it would be kinda funny for both it and the hood say Eagle, lol.
You know I did not think of that. Good point.
Quote from: maximus7001 on December 08, 2010, 11:30:12 PM
Nice. That is the same grille I am going to use. Actually it will be the whole front clip from the Concord. Also I was thinking about blacking out hood as well.
the hood is in primer because it was a powerbulge that i had to repair http://forums.amceaglenest.com/index.php?topic=32674.0 (http://forums.amceaglenest.com/index.php?topic=32674.0), but as it turns out it matches the wheels that I put on the car (black with chrome lips) so this spring/summer it is going to be removed from the car for a good coat of satin black and maybe some functional scoops
Quote from: shaggimo on December 09, 2010, 07:45:31 AM
Nice!! Similar to the grille we have in the sx4. I'd say definitely the AMC logo on the grille, mainly because it would be kinda funny for both it and the hood say Eagle, lol.
that is why I have been torn between the 2 but now I do belive the hunt is on for the AMC emblem that is the exact same as the one loacated on the hatch ......... anyone got one they want to part with?
What's the one on the hatch look like ???
Quote from: 68AMXGOPAC on December 09, 2010, 06:41:10 PM
What's the one on the hatch look like ???
(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j261/thereverendbill/1983%20eagle%20wagon/100_0183.jpg)
I might have one of those Bill. I know I pulled one off that Hornet Sportabout that was in good shape. I think I have a second one as the one on my Eagle has no color left on it. If I have a spare it is yours. I will look tomorrow in the light.
That grill may have been on a concord but it is a 1980 Eagle grill, not concord
That looks a lot like the 80 Concord Grille that I might be getting from Hastings Nebraska.
I have that grill on my 80 and I have a sport version of it. Most of the concords used vertical bands
Quote from: milliard431 on December 09, 2010, 10:39:38 PM
I have that grill on my 80 and I have a sport version of it. Most of the concords used vertical bands
You are right. I did not notice that.
Here's one that I am looking at. I am waiting to hear back about another one a member hear PM'd me about.
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i268/BKJ99/ConcordGrille.jpg)
I think they are all nicer than the egg crate style
Quote from: milliard431 on December 09, 2010, 10:56:28 PM
I think they are all nicer than the egg crate style
Agreed. There is one like Bill has listed on that auction site. It is listed as an 88 Eagle Grille.
boy am I glad i never mentioned concord grille ;D I bought it from a fellow nester but it wasn't on a car when i picked it up ....... just looks alot sportier than the eggcrate 8)
Quote from: 83Eagle! on December 09, 2010, 09:18:32 PM
I might have one of those Bill. I know I pulled one off that Hornet Sportabout that was in good shape. I think I have a second one as the one on my Eagle has no color left on it. If I have a spare it is yours. I will look tomorrow in the light.
Ditto on that if 83Eagle doesn't have one.I am sure I saved all the emblems off the 82. It is also cool too see what the power bulge looks like on the wagon.I saved the one from the 82 SX/4 parts rig too for that reason.
The oil drip has returned enough to take the car out of service. Figured that since i will have to pretty much take the engine out I'll also swap in another transmission and transfer case to remove the slipping that is getting worse. also playing with the idea of doing an HEI swap while the car is down (auction for under 80 bucks). To make things worse the right hatch hinge broke on me when I was putting my tools in my car on thursday :(
Must be a sign Bill.
Quote from: IowaEagle on December 26, 2010, 09:34:38 PM
Must be a sign Bill.
Agreed. Sorry to hear about the leak.
Quote from: 83Eagle! on December 26, 2010, 11:56:42 PM
Quote from: IowaEagle on December 26, 2010, 09:34:38 PM
Must be a sign Bill.
Agreed. Sorry to hear about the leak.
I knew that it was going to come to change the pan at some point so i bought a replacement as soon as the old one started leaking. The 3 packages of JB weld all over the oil pan slowed the leak enough for me to put over 3k miles on the car in 2 months only having to add oil every 2-3 weeks (about a quart). Figured that since the eagle will be down for about a month I will just get some funds together to do the HEI upgrade, get rid of the rest of the smog equipment, get a color mixed that matches the original color perfect, and get the underside smoothed out, painted , and lined. Also since i found a guy to put the new engine in the bravada for dirt cheap (I think this is the first 4.3 for him) I might actually get a chance to get some of the dents and dings out of the body while it is down. Beginning of the new year is when i am going to put it under the knife and hopefully have a car that will haul me cross country in 2011
Sounds like a good plan Bill.
You have more patience with that Bravada than I would have. I would have used it for kindling by now.
Bill: there is a product that works much better than JB weld that might help your frustration. It is called Devcon. It is a 2 part. It is actually 80% steel and comes in a 24 hr version and a 5 minute version called super fast or SF. I have used it to seal intake manifold cracks on marine motors without a coolant leak. One lasted 20 years.
heres how to use it mix the devcon super fast steel and spread it over a piece of wax paper and make it thick. shove the wax paper patch onto the cleaned oil pan after it hardens, pull the wax paper off. The wax paper acts as a bandage and keeps the thicker devcon from dripping or sliding off the oil pan. This is good stuff and you can even drill and tap it. It comes in one pound cans and bigger. My first experience with it was in the 1970's in a factory when i watched a millwright patch a steam line with it. I have always tried to keep some ever since. It also comes in aluminum and bronze. You will need the 5 minute steel SF (super fast) you can use it right away, don't have to wait 24 hrs.
hope this helps. check out this site http://www.ellsworth.com/display/displayFile.aspx?docid=50&filename=/Public/Vendor+PDFs/Devcon.pdf
dumb luck sets in again :P I just won an aluminum 4.2 valve cover from "the bay" and looked at the photos and noticed that it installs exactly like the plastic valve cover (2 bolts on the top and 3 on the right side). Hopefully this comming weekend or the next I will be able to pull the engine to install the new to me oil pan, replace the tranny/transfercase, and install a set of hatch hinges and be able to drive my wagon again ....... it just looks at me real sad when have to leave it at home and get in the new minivan everyday to go to work
Well, just think about the minivan as more of a rental while you are getting the Eagle back up and running. The minivan is technically your wife's DD.
Quote from: thereverendbill on January 02, 2011, 07:58:57 PM
dumb luck sets in again :P I just won an aluminum 4.2 valve cover from "the bay" and looked at the photos and noticed that it installs exactly like the plastic valve cover (2 bolts on the top and 3 on the right side). Hopefully this comming weekend or the next I will be able to pull the engine to install the new to me oil pan, replace the tranny/transfercase, and install a set of hatch hinges and be able to drive my wagon again ....... it just looks at me real sad when have to leave it at home and get in the new minivan everyday to go to work
Maybe you can modify it by adding some mounting holes fore & aft and on the driver's side?
Bill, I don't know if it is true or not because I have never done it, but according to my factory repair manual you don't need to remove the engine to change the oil pan...maybe somebody else here has actually done it. It says remove half shafts, wire them back towards the wheels, disconnect drive shaft and remove axle housing. remove starter and cover under bellhousing, unbolt oil pan and slide it rearward.
Don't know if this idea will help, but maybe somebody else here has actually done it
Makes sense.
I might try that route to getting the oil pan on but while I am going through all of this for the oil pan i am probably going to replace the rear main seal because the way things work in my world I neglect it and as soon as i get it together the rear main will start leaking
Quote from: 83Eagle! on January 03, 2011, 12:35:04 AM
Well, just think about the minivan as more of a rental while you are getting the Eagle back up and running. The minivan is technically your wife's DD.
All I know is I have to get the eagle on the road quick because i am starting to like to drive that van ..... and I found out tonight that with no rear seats my new four wheeler fits in nicely ;D
Yeah I felt the same way when we drove the minivan to Kansas City the 2 times. However, I do not like parking that van. I am so used to vehicles that I can see the front fenders while driving.
The minivan does have a decent utility value, however I hate taking out the seats. Couldn't afford the one with stow and go, besides it had a higher price and higher mileage.
Look out guys you know they say once you go minivan ya never go back so don't get to used to it ;D LOL
We had two of them. No kids, no minivans.
Quote from: 85AmCfreak on January 05, 2011, 11:56:25 AM
Look out guys you know they say once you go minivan ya never go back so don't get to used to it ;D LOL
:rotfl: I think the same could be said about station wagons, I swore I'd never own one, but now, I can't picture life without one, lol.
I own 2 station wagons and a minivan. I always joke that I feel rather domesticated. My only saving grace is the fact that one of the Wagons is an Eagle and it is 4 wheel drive.
now now guys your throwing that Station W---- word around a little to much, its a 4 door hatchback.......... Don't let anyone else in on the dirty little secret.............. shhhhhhhh ::)
No it's a wagon.
Quote from: 83Eagle! on January 06, 2011, 01:05:04 AM
No it's a wagon.
:rotfl: I guess the only way around the "wagon" term would be a nomad, but unfortunatly there's no eagle version, lol.
What's wrong with the Wagon word?
lol, nothing as far as I'm concerned, well not anymore anyway, when I was a teenager I may have thought a little different, lol. Now I think they are cool 8) (not to mention handy).
Quote from: 83Eagle! on January 06, 2011, 02:23:55 PM
What's wrong with the Wagon word?
gotta put a fancy word in front of it like shaggin wagon or woody wagon ..... then it makes it cool 8) I was just talking to the neighbor and showing him Memphis Eagle's wagon and he made the comment that compared to a stock wagon mine is way far than stock, I really don't see it that far from stock heck in about 2 hours I cold make it 100% back to original.
I find the wagons more useful than the minivan. The only think I don't like about my minivan other than the fact that it is a minivan is the fact that the seats are so @#$%^& hard to remove on my own. I love the fact that we paid it off in a year abd that it is as reliable ans easy to work on as it is, but I kind if wish I would have held out for one with the stow & go seating.
There's nothing wrong with the word to me but to some of the other young folks......ahh you have to step on eggshells with these kids today. Anyway if an eagle was to be made brand new today in America it would be a 4 door or 5 door hatchback. They would never in a million years call it a station wagon that word has died.
Yup. Although my Patriot is classified by Jeep as a station wagon, you just don't see that anywhere except on the title and registration.
These days it's gone from the four wheel drive wagon to something else .... Crossover "suv". Except that most crossovers suck because many of them don't have any ground clearance, a torquey engine or an AMC badge ;) and nearly all of them have optional 2wd, which just turns them into stunted pregnant minivans
Our cars started the crossover craze at a time when no one wanted any part of it. 20 years later as our numbers dwindle, it's the vehicle type of choice... The painful irony.
Quote from: tougeagle on January 16, 2011, 10:47:40 PM
Our cars started the crossover craze at a time when no one wanted any part of it. 20 years later as our numbers dwindle, it's the vehicle type of choice... The painful irony.
Amen
Pieces are comming together, tomarrow i should have my final few parts needed for the wagon from work (at a discount) transmission gasket/filter, oil pan gasket (hopefully rubber 1 piece, talk was made to me today of a multi piece ..... if so it goes back), valve cover gasket (decided to go with a thick cork gasket). I recently purchased a 4.2 stamped aluminum valve cover off of ebay with the exact same mounting configuration as the stock plastic cover (could be good, could become a flower pot if I detect leaks). The only major thing i forgot to get through work was an oil filter and oil, so that is on the upcomming new list.
I have kinda been put under the gun because as some of you know I have 4 cars here and only 1 that is really road worthy without major leaks or *cough* head gasket problems. My wife started her new job today and that involves me getting dropped off to work and being forced to hope that i can get a ride home (or walk 12 miles). i am hoping to get the car in this weekend and at the very least get the new pan installed and the valve cover and just deal with the slippage for a little bit longer (over 3k miles put on the car thus far with the slippage)
Stay tuned for pictures
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my new to me aluminum valve cover purchased for 60 dollars including shipping
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I got bored tonight so i masked off all of the ridges and the 4.2L on the cover .... Took me about 90 minutes to get this far
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flat black is the color I went with, after a good scuffing i added about 8-10 coats of wal-mart cheapo paint (holds up pretty well under the hood)
Now I just need to get to the actual car and get it back on the road and going
Very Nice.
Well, got another piece of the puzzle today at work. We got a newer impala in the shop that had halo aftermarket headlights and a HID upgrade to it that was hit on the front of the left fender. Needless to say the cheapo E-B** halo lights didn't hold up so the parts manager got a set of aftermarket halos from a local shop that do not accept the HID conversion. The job of wiring the headlights and talking to the customer fell in my lap and i explained to the customer how the HIDs can't be installed in the new headlights. She simply told me to take all of that "crap" off of the car and throw it away, so i took the transformer boxes off the car and the HID bulbs out of the cheapo housings and brought them home with me to be installed in the eagle.
I love my job ;D
nice score. i love getting freebies at work. its like an unexpected bonus.
Looks familiar:
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Looks like the day it came off the showroom floor!! NICE
put a chrome air cleaner on yours doug and we'd have twin engine compartments ;D
Tomarrow the eagle goes under the knife for the oil pan and valve cover. For some strange reason I got roped into painting a loader (thanks dad), so while I am doing that my father is going to be changing out the oil pan and valve cover without me :(, I'll be in the same building but on the other side in the booth so that i don't have a copper brown metallic eagle with caterpillar yellow spots
Sounds like a fair trade if you ask me.
Quote from: thereverendbill on January 21, 2011, 04:37:09 PM
I'll be in the same building but on the other side in the booth so that i don't have a copper brown metallic eagle with caterpillar yellow spots
You never know, that just might look good!
what a BAD day!! oil pan is not in, in fact the old one isn't off yet because of those wonderful axle mount bolts. Took a small break to head out to the sanctuary and get a part for a fellow nester and low and behold the van acted up again (looks like the fuel filter wasn't the issue, time to march onward with a new fuel pump). I think I got the right socket I need to finish the oil pan and i hope that tomarrow goes 1000% better than today because I NEED the eagle back on the road
I am sorry to hear the day was not as productive as you hoped. That sucks. I hope tomorrow goes better.
Good luck with that fuel pump Bill, it really did sound identical to the issue I had with my Dodge ( still a chrysler product ). Do you have a fuel pressure gauge or some kind of gauge you can screw into the fuel rail ??That's how I narrowed mine down , when it started running like you told me over the phone, I checked the pressure and sure enough it was way down.I actually nursed mine along I think for over a year like that, with the fill up trick, and sometimes havning to wait for it to cool down.RM at it's worse I guess,lol.Why is there a special socket for the oil pan ?? Or are you talking the axle mount bolts ?? Anyways Good luck with it,-12 here tonight and more snow midweek !
I think you are right on the money with the van and the fuel pump, we drove it around town here for 3 weeks after replacing the filter and i guess i got too confident in the repair. We made it 30 miles before it acted up. After sitting for about 2 hours it started right up and made it 10 miles towards home and quit again (then we had to tow it). this morning my wife took it to work (with the sockets I bought for the axle mount on the eagle still inside it). She just called and said that it ran good this morning but the check engine light is on again (codes are saying random misfire, and misfire on cyl 6). Once i get my sockets here for that axle mount (the one directly under the manafold) we should have the eagle going again, My plain is to just work on it until I am finished even if that means I am at the garage all night long
Yeah, I got away several times when the gas was down to say 1/2 tank, and I had been pushing it on the highway at 70 or so for an hour or so.I would fill it up, and seems the cold gas would cool the pump down and be good for awhile.AT $300 for the pump, and the easiest way to change it was pulling off the truck bed...........it stayed that way till I blew the tranny out of it on my way to pick up a 401 in Virginia !!The 401 dissasembled fit nicely in my Camry , and got it home.
I priced the new pump for the van at 150 bucks, since we had the tank dang near out when we replaced the fuel filter it shouldn't be too bad of a job. knowing my luck though after I putthe pump in it the injectors will foul up and go out on me ;D
Think positively man.
Quote from: 83Eagle! on January 23, 2011, 07:54:03 PM
Think positively man.
I will second that notion "think positive", I need you obywonkanobie your my only hope.I'm sure you can read the fine print in that,lol.
about 2 hours ago the old oil pan was out .... since then we have been tring to get the new pan on, my prediction of being in the garage all night long is looking to come true. After dinner we are going back over to get that :censored: oil pan on the car ..... 2 inches of room is all we need and i am just not getting it
you'll need to lift the engine higher to get the pan back on... Don't ask me why, I'm not sure but for some reason putting the pan back on requires just a bit more clearance. last oilpan job I did on an Eagle I had the engine lifted high enough that I could almost sit up and work on it. Just lift the &*% a good foot up off the dogbone, and save yourself some headache.
Well, I wish things could be ALOT more easier, we tried and tried to get the engine up high enough to get the dang oil pain to slide in but ended up having to cut our losses and pull the engine. As of 4AM this morning the engine is out of the car, by 5 AM the new oil pan was on and we decided to take a break, get some sleep, and are on our way back over shortly to clean off the engine and reinstall. the only casualties where the fuel return line and the fuel return line vent (with as tired as we where i am surprized that's the only thing we missed)
little bit of an update here, engine is back in, hoses and wires hooked up, all that is left are a few little odds and ends like the torque converter bolts not lining up. So far the tally on hours for just the oil pan gasket is right around 41 hours in 3 days, I will admit though I jinxed the whole deal when i said out loud "this should be done and over in about 4 hours"
Torque convertor only lines up one way
Did ya put the new ( used) tranny in while you were at it ?? Or is it the one that was in there and just not lineing up ?
Quote from: mudkicker715 on January 25, 2011, 08:12:21 AM
Torque convertor only lines up one way
We are now aware of that, after all of the problems we decided to pull out the chilton's manual and then read about marking the flex plate/torque converter .... we're still fighting with it
Quote from: 68AMXGOPAC on January 25, 2011, 09:39:21 AM
Did ya put the new ( used) tranny in while you were at it ?? Or is it the one that was in there and just not lineing up ?
we where thinking about it, but the new oil pan is kicking us right in the rear ...... i will live with slip for a few more weeks seeing how today i got laid off from work
I am sorry to hear about the job. That sucks.
Quote from: 83Eagle! on January 25, 2011, 03:39:10 PM
I am sorry to hear about the job. That sucks.
all and all I got to put in 1 day this week (why do i even bother trying)
But good news is I got to take the eagle out last night against my wife's wishes ;D to explain, on our way home from work the van cut out and died. We had to call my sister and get a ride home and i had to call work and have the tow driver haul the van home (freebie tow, I love it). Once the van got here on the back of the rollback it fired right up and idled for about 20 minutes. this prompted my wife to finally force me into getting a non prepaid cell phone. i wanted to take the eagle and she insisted on taking the van because it was running again. We set off from the house and less than a mile down the road it just didn't feel right to me from the passenger seat so i mention it and got the usual "it's fine! I don't drive my car like I'm mad at it like you drive it" Less than 4 miles from the house the van pulled it's act and quit yet again (luckily we where about 500 feet from the town "watering" hole). We stroll down the road and go inside to use the phone so that i could call my father and have him bring the eagle down. While we waited I had 2 drinks in celebration of the van until my father pulled up.
The eagle drove great and the only issue beside the higher than normal idle (we think we know what's going on, but won't be certain until tomarrow) was the oil leaking from the valve cover and smoke coming from under the hood when we parked.
The van is still sitting on the side of the road to be pulled home tomarrow afternoon, then it will get it's fuel pump like it wants. if time allows i will have a chance to install the aluminum valve cover tomarrow as well and maybe get the grille reinstalled
hopefully tomarrow I will remember to take some pictures of my eagle in the snow ;D
Progress. That is a good thing. Fuel pump for the Caravan shouldn't be too bad.
Eagle is down again because of the transmission, going to be installing another trans and transfercase this comming saturday. i also i just received the new HEI distributor that will replace another ford part, hopefully that too will be installed this weekend. i will have pictures posted once the new dist is installed and i will let everyone know if this was a good 70 dollars or not
I will be curious to hear about the distributer. I want to upgrade mine, which I should have done over a year ago when I replaced the distributer.
ALSO WOULD LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT THE HEI DIST.AM WANTING TO THAT ALSO..MUST BA A VAN DAY TODAY, OUR TOWN & COUNTRY IS SITTING IN FRONT OF SUBWAY IN TARKIO MO.BACKED UP A FEW FEET LIGHTS & BLOWER WENT OUT & DIED .WILL HAVE TO FIND SOMEONE TO LOOK AT IT TOMORROWjavascript:void(0);
My van turned out to be just what i thought, the fuel pump. It was a real easy job because a few weeks prior we installed a new fuel filter that required us to drop the tank and tackle all of the gulded, rusted bolts. We had the new fuel pump installed in about 40 min and the van has been going strong (about 1000 miles). the only issue with it now is that it cranks for a little while before it finally catches and fires up (it is over due for a tune up).
Back on topic with the eagle. I figure i am going to run a set of V8 Chevrolet plug wires either 7 mm or 8 mm (recommended by the company i bought the distributor from) and replace the plugs with a set of champion low dollar plugs. i have high expectations for this swap and I will be posting pictures once it is completed.
What advantages will the HEI distributor have? Are you just putting in the distributor, or are you actually making it HEI with a new coil and HEI module as well?
Hey bill, just a suggestion, but chev wires no good, the have the 90 degree boots. Mopar 4.0 wires are 7mm and would work good, or Ones listed for an Olds V8 (straight boot), I like the accel super stock universal fit (8mm), never had a problem with them, and you can cut them down to the desired length.
Oh, and make sure that you new distributor has the correct gear on it, as far as materials go, *some* aftermarket units have too hard of gear and will cause havoc on the factory cam.
Quote from: shaggimo on February 10, 2011, 07:26:18 AM
Hey bill, just a suggestion, but chev wires no good, the have the 90 degree boots. Mopar 4.0 wires are 7mm and would work good, or Ones listed for an Olds V8 (straight boot), I like the accel super stock universal fit (8mm), never had a problem with them, and you can cut them down to the desired length.
Oh, and make sure that you new distributor has the correct gear on it, as far as materials go, *some* aftermarket units have too hard of gear and will cause havoc on the factory cam.
That is good to know. I am looking into maybe doing this upgrade at the meet in Spetember. Need to start saving my pennies.
Quote from: shaggimo on February 10, 2011, 07:26:18 AM
Hey bill, just a suggestion, but chev wires no good, the have the 90 degree boots. Mopar 4.0 wires are 7mm and would work good, or Ones listed for an Olds V8 (straight boot), I like the accel super stock universal fit (8mm), never had a problem with them, and you can cut them down to the desired length.
Oh, and make sure that you new distributor has the correct gear on it, as far as materials go, *some* aftermarket units have too hard of gear and will cause havoc on the factory cam.
would the straight boots work for my eagle, the stockers have 2 90 degree boots to fit under the A/C pump and bracket.
i would try and build my own wires but my last attempt was a complete failure so I have sworn to never even try that again
Bill you need the crimper. Guessing at your disaster
Quote from: mudkicker715 on February 10, 2011, 08:23:12 PM
Bill you need the crimper. Guessing at your disaster
i did end up buying a crimper when i attempted to make my own plug wires years ago, spent like an hour trying to get a 90 degree boot on the first wire (small block chevy truck with headers) I just gave up and got a set of big block chevy wires. the crimping tool was donated to a friend of mine who builds and races dirt modified cars.
I haven't had any problems running the straight boots behind the a/c compressor, it's a tight fit, but no arc issues. However, since there will be extra boots and terminals, one could make up a pair of 90 wires for those two, especially since #3 and #4 wires are only 6 inches long, they could be made entirely out of the scrap cut off, then you'll have four left over straight bootied wires, lol. The easiest way I have found to build wires, (I'm kinda OCD about fit, so pre made wires are out of the question for me, lol), is to crimp the terminal on the wire then slide the boot over the terminal (as opposed to the method on the directions). Dielectric grease works wonders for this. The crappo terminal crimper accel gives is garbage, when I bought my MSD wires for my Olds, they came with a nice crimp tool that works very well with a bench vise. You might be able to score one from the bay, or maybe msd sells them separate...
BEFORE:
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AFTER:
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also i picked up a tool set to keep in the eagle
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Nice looking valve cover replacement job.
Is that the stock Carter Carb on there?
yup, stock carter on there. tomarrow plains are to install the HEI because today was dedicated to the valve cover (not by choice). I ended up getting into the water jackets while tapping the head so i installed studs on the left side and added 2 studs on the right side so that the gasket would stay put while I got the cover on it.
Tomarrow there should be a picture of the completed (for now) engine bay
I will look forward to tomorrow's pictures. Looks good Bill.
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everything is on that was sitting in the engine pile, haven't road tested it yet. All that is left is to take the eagle over to my buddy's place to have the plug wires shortened.
Hopefully tonight I can talk my wife into going with me to get some headliner fabric. tomarrow i will put about 100 miles on it and get the new steering wheel installed and just maybe get the headliner recovered and installed
Looks good. Sounds like an ambitious day tomorrow.
Looks good Bill !! Like that new distributor.I see the front hose goes to the PCV where does thaat back line go to ??
Quote from: 68AMXGOPAC on February 18, 2011, 03:29:24 PM
Looks good Bill !! Like that new distributor.I see the front hose goes to the PCV where does thaat back line go to ??
At the moment nowhere ....... it did go on to the air cleaner
;D You could swap the pcv to the rear, and put a breather up front.....I did it no ill effects yet, lol.
Quote from: shaggimo on February 18, 2011, 04:28:58 PM
;D You could swap the pcv to the rear, and put a breather up front.....I did it no ill effects yet, lol.
that is a pretty good idea, I'll have to pick a breather up tomarrow and get 'er on there
something that folks might be interested in. I decided to take the wagon on a shakedown run out to the old AMC dealership building and snap a photo for the heritage board this evening
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hope everyone enjoys
I need to get a picture of my Eagle in front of the old AMC dealerships in Omaha. There are 4 former AMC Dealerships. I know three of the buildings still exist.
Metro Motors Inc., AMC/Jeep/Renault, 808 N. 102nd St. Is in an area where there are still 4-5 dealerships. I bet the building is still there. I think this is the dealership that eventually became Metro Mitsubishi. They recently moved out to West Omaha. I think Stan Olsen Auto Group owns the building now.
Jim Earp, Jeep, 5500 L St. Turned into Jim Earp Chrysler Jeep. And usually partnered with his friend Jim Zipke who owned Jim's Dodge Country It remained that until 2004, I think. Jim Earp died in 2008.
68117, Motor World Inc., AMC/Renault, 5525 L St. This was right next door to Jim Earp Jeep. It was taken over by Jim Earp not long after the buyout. Jim Earp had locations on 55th and L, 50th and L and 84th and L in Omaha during the Chrysler years. I remember going to Jim Earp back in '84. I remember seeing Chryslers and AMCs. He sold Plymouth at the timetoo. My Dad bought a Plymouth Reliant at that time.
Looks good Bill. You might want to think about getting the molded front intake hose as that bend is where an older hose likes to collapse. The molded hose for our cars fits several others too so it is available --- and you cut the straight end to fit.
went to autozone today and got me a breather for the new valve cover (thanks for idea shaggimo). Also today while looking for the leak that has appeared we found out I have a bad fuel pump that was pumping fuel into the oil. Well domino effect soon ensued and a new fuel pump turned into a new hard fuel line due to the fitting and the line rusted together and another oil change. This change i decided to throw all my chips on the table and went straight to 15w 40 motor oil. Next task at hand is to go through the half mile of vacuum lines and eliminate them. Gotta get the car ready to possibly take a road trip to Utah here in the next few days or weeks (oldest son's grandfather is in the hospital and not doing so good)
If you head to Utah and need a pitstop give me a holler. I am sure I'll be around.
Good luck figuring out the vacuum hoses. That is a headache. Allend and a few others have eliminated a number of vacuum hoses on their engines. From what I remember, his ran really well back at Doug's place in '08.
well, oil leak is back and i have pin pointed it down to the back of the new valve cover. So tomarrow i get to remove the valve cover and install gasket number 3 (removing the old one first then installing a new one). this time though i am going to go against my better judgement and RTV the head and the valve cover to ensure a good seal. While I am under the hood I figure i will clean everything up and make sure the timing is in check and get rid of some unused vacuum canisters (I pretty much gutted the car of all vacuum lines)
When i installed the HEI i didn't bypass the ECM, will could that be the cause of the car not wanting to idle?
I am not too familiar with the HEI upgrade, but I thought you were supposed to bypass the ECM when you do the HEI upgrade.
Quote from: 83Eagle! on February 24, 2011, 07:19:23 PM
I am not too familiar with the HEI upgrade, but I thought you were supposed to bypass the ECM when you do the HEI upgrade.
X2................exceptno gm on stroker thing, msd baby its awesome. On my 304 powered. I went cheap and went hei. Computer is gutted on that one.
I don't think that bypassing the ECM would be a must when converting to HEI. If you use the harness wires that went to the original ICM, then it should still work. The HEI module and the Ford ICM do the same thing, so keeping the ECM should be doable. But it would require a little bit of rewiring to the HEI module inside the distributor.
Question: How many go into your distributor right now (not including spark plug wires)?
Quote from: ammachine390 on February 25, 2011, 01:18:46 PM
I don't think that bypassing the ECM would be a must when converting to HEI. If you use the harness wires that went to the original ICM, then it should still work. The HEI module and the Ford ICM do the same thing, so keeping the ECM should be doable. But it would require a little bit of rewiring to the HEI module inside the distributor.
Question: How many wires go into your distributor right now (not including spark plug wires)?
1 the yellow wire from the coil to power the HEI
Quote from: thereverendbill on February 25, 2011, 01:20:25 PM
1 the yellow wire from the coil to power the HEI
Do you mean the original coil + wire? If so, did you bypass the resistor wire?
I assume that the 1 yellow wire plugs into the "Bat" terminal on the HEI. Is there a 3 wire connector on the distributor as well?
nothing on the distributor as far as wires go just a place for the 12 volt power supply and 1 for the tach. i used my power probe to make sure that the yellow wire on the stock eagle coil was a true 12 volt and it was so that's why i used it
Interesting, I always thought all HEI distributors had a few wires going from inside the base of the distributor to a harness connector up by the 12 volt power supply and tach terminals.
Quote from: ammachine390 on February 25, 2011, 01:39:13 PM
Interesting, I always thought all HEI distributors had a few wires going from inside the base of the distributor to a harness connector up by the 12 volt power supply and tach terminals.
you are correct, there is a plug with the 3 wires that goes back into the distributor. I thought you where meaning 3 more wires to wire into the car
Quote from: thereverendbill on February 24, 2011, 06:13:04 PM
When i installed the HEI i didn't bypass the ECM, will could that be the cause of the car not wanting to idle?
I'm pretty sure that installing HEI would bypass the ECM because with your HEI, now the pickup is connected directly to the ignition module with no ECM interference. But you would still need to set the stepper motor pins to the correct location. Also, when bypassing the ECM, ignition timing is automatically retarded to after top dead center, so make sure the timing is correct. And what is your distributor advance vacuum connected to?
Quote from: ammachine390 on February 26, 2011, 10:26:59 PM
Quote from: thereverendbill on February 24, 2011, 06:13:04 PM
When i installed the HEI i didn't bypass the ECM, will could that be the cause of the car not wanting to idle?
I'm pretty sure that installing HEI would bypass the ECM because with your HEI, now the pickup is connected directly to the ignition module with no ECM interference. But you would still need to set the stepper motor pins to the correct location. Also, when bypassing the ECM, ignition timing is automatically retarded to after top dead center, so make sure the timing is correct. And what is your distributor advance vacuum connected to?
my advance is connected to the same place as it was before, from the base of the carb. The timing is Just about spot on (to ear, the harmonic balancer has loads of surface rust)
How do you set the stepper motor pins?
OK, I assume you have your advanced connected to the port on the passenger side of the carb, correct? From what I understand, to set the stepper motor pins, you just have to remove it, and extend the pins all the way and reinstall. When reinstalling, leave the stepper motor unplugged.
Also, just wondering, since installing HEI, does your sol-vac still work?
the wagon is moving again. The rain has halted all progess for today and got me thinking that I need a shelter for working on the cars in the rain on the hot days that are comming (not soon enough I might add) so i went out to harbor freight and picked up a portable car port for 120 bucks
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I have been thinking about something like that.
I've considered that. We have a carport but we have more vehicles than carport. I suggested moving the wife's Impala out so we can get both Eagles inside, but that didn't go over too well.
I have held off on the portable car port because there is no getting away from falling limbs and I didn't think the portable kind would survive.
We plain on getting a tarp big enough to cover the whole thing for when it comes time to lay paint on the kammback. We are also going to build a shed on the other side of it to house our welders, compressors, tools and spare eagle parts ;D
I wonder how they do in the wind. That is why I have held off on one of those.
Quote from: IowaEagle on March 06, 2011, 06:38:17 PM
I wonder how they do in the wind. That is why I have held off on one of those.
today has been the test on the hill, we opted for a set of the 3 foot auger style mounts that HF sells for 12 bucks and it really seems sturdy (it is still standing in the same position). It does come with 1 foot spikes to drive into the ground if your putting it on black top or concrete. This summer we are going to get some concrete slabs they cut out of the roads around here and lay them where it is sitting then move it back on them so that i can have a good dirt free floor for when the time comes to do some painting.
Now if it would stop snowing out side everything would be perfect
This is what my dad got me for my cars:
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I like it a lot, just perfect for my cars to stay fairly covered and didn't have to build a whole seperate garage.
They sell those around here too. Around $900, if I remember correctly.
Hey, Robert, do you suppose he will get one for me, too? ;) ;D
Seriously, that's great. I see them around here, too, but most aren't enclosed all the way to the ground.
one of these days I will have that same setup, 2-4 car garage with a 2 car carport outside the door so that i can roll projects outside on warm summer days
Quote from: IowaEagle on March 06, 2011, 06:38:17 PM
I wonder how they do in the wind. That is why I have held off on one of those.
They can get pretty torn up in the wind. Holding them down isn't too much of an issue but after going through enough rain and sun, the covering starts to weaken, and then the wind can start to tear it up
Kind of thought that would be the case. Thanks.
I have an enclosed one I got from Northern Tool , I think it is 10 x 20. Reverend Bill has seen it : ) .The key is securing them to the ground, and putting them together square. I think mine was $179.It has a zippered roll up flap door on the front.I dug about 10- 12" diameter holes for the augers on all four corners and set them in concrete, then cabled the leg corners of the garage to the augers.The trick is having a nice level area and securing it down good.Mine gets pumeled with the wind alot. I will say though after it's third winter and sun, and wind it is starting to show some wear,after another year I might consider getting a new cover, hopeing they sell just the shell.It can be patched with regular tarp material , or so it says.I have one hole in it from a chunk of ice falling off the roof, catching in the wind and punctureing the top.I see alot of them in disrepair because of poor instalation.Not sure if I have a pic of mine.... Nice job Bill !!!
I really like the car port Robert. I wish I could get one for the two vehicles that sit outside. A guy down the street has a single car one like that for his truck and mower and snowblower. Looks like it works pretty well.
I found a place that'll install them for $795, but I don't think my wife would let me get one.
HI Hay Robert that is a very nice and well built car port or shelter eather way its good looking ....DON
got to messing with the wagon a little today. a little tightening on the valve cover, checking fluids, and some other odds and ends. The most major thing i did was replaced the old concord style steering wheel with something a little more sporty
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the orignal concord style limited wheel with the wood grain top and bottom of the wheel
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adding a little bit of sport to the old wagon, it took me many many many months to find one that was nutmeg (bought 2 honey colored ones before i realized/remembered i had nutmeg) a poor 1982 wagon gave this little treasure up
Very nice. I like the look of that new steering wheel. Heck the old one you replaced even looks better than the one on my Eagle now.
Yeah, those skinny rimmed corporate steering wheels just don't fit an Eagles personna -- I have the same one in the Concord -- feels strange after driving the Eagle.
HI Bill you have a good looking Eagle ..Is she A life long project mine is .........Don
Quote from: teneagle on March 17, 2011, 09:58:05 PM
HI Bill you have a good looking Eagle ..Is she A life long project mine is .........Don
Not really a life long, hopefully she'll get some new paint this summer so i can place it on the back burner so i can focus on my kammback and SX/4. Here in a few weeks i will have the power mirrors installed, new locks installed, and rewire and replace the speakers. ;D
That is quite a to do list. Can't wait to see it after that checklist is complete.
HI that is a good list .is that on the brown wag . I have ben looking for a cam back at a good price I will find one some day .It Is out there waiting for me to find It win the time is right............Don
Quote from: teneagle on March 17, 2011, 11:50:04 PM
HI that is a good list .is that on the brown wag . I have ben looking for a cam back at a good price I will find one some day .It Is out there waiting for me to find It win the time is right............Don
yup, that is just for the copper wagon, kammback needs some floors and pretty much a freshing up of all of the other systems. The SX/4 is probaly the worst of them all, looks good inside and outside but the underside is just rotten. That car is in the slow process of getting totaly disassembled, put on a frame jig, and a complete new frame made up.
Quote from: 83Eagle! on March 17, 2011, 11:26:30 PM
That is quite a to do list. Can't wait to see it after that checklist is complete.
all of the exterior, interior, and engine mods are finished on the wagon. The mirrors are factory eagle power units and the color is going to be the same as vangremlin's kammback (the closest color I have seen to the factory copper brown metallic)
With some recent family news the wagon is going to be on hold along with everything else till probly the end of june. gotta prep for the 38 hour drive .... YET AGAIN
Quote from: thereverendbill on March 18, 2011, 10:08:25 PM
With some recent family news the wagon is going to be on hold along with everything else till probly the end of june. gotta prep for the 38 hour drive .... YET AGAIN
Give me a holler when you roll through Omaha on the return trip.
HI sounds like a very aggressive Summer plus 38 hour drive on top of all that.my 84 wag is sitting low and I cant tell if its the leafs or the preach both sides thats after the 82 I love the 82 I don't know why I just do . the 84 is going to be more work maybe next year. you have to work with two things TIME AND MONEY yes....Don
Bill you said complete new frame make up who is going to do that .......Don
Quote from: teneagle on March 19, 2011, 03:01:07 AM
Bill you said complete new frame make up who is going to do that .......Don
my father and i are going to be the ones doing all the work. He has over 20 years experence on everything automotive and i work at a collision body shop full time.
Hey thereverendbill can you or will you tell me when you changed your four spoke wheel to the three spoke sport wheel how did you get your horn to work?I changed my steering wheel from the four spoke to the three spoke and not sure how to hook up the horn wire. So If you could steer me in the right direction I would be greatful. I have all the parts I'm sure just don't know what to do with that wire that was hooked to the four spoke wheel/horn. Thanks!!
HI That is good that will cut cost way down . and its good to know if I mite need some help down the road later Don
Quote from: eagleman on March 19, 2011, 10:19:58 AM
Hey thereverendbill can you or will you tell me when you changed your four spoke wheel to the three spoke sport wheel how did you get your horn to work?I changed my steering wheel from the four spoke to the three spoke and not sure how to hook up the horn wire. So If you could steer me in the right direction I would be greatful. I have all the parts I'm sure just don't know what to do with that wire that was hooked to the four spoke wheel/horn. Thanks!!
the horn hook up is totaly different between the 4 spoke and the 3 spoke. what you have to do is remove the lock ring under that plastic cover that is behind the wheel and change the horn ring and lock ring with the 3 spoke units.
The horn on the 3 spoke wheel has a button that compresses to get ground rather than the wire that the 4 spoke uses.
What i would do is look for an early cherokee (XJ) in the salvage yard with the 3 spoke wheel, remove the wheel and purchase the needed parts. I will send you a PM with my phone number so that i can walk you through what is needed because I am having a real hard time putting it all into a how to ;D
Quote from: teneagle on March 19, 2011, 02:54:14 AM
HI sounds like a very aggressive Summer plus 38 hour drive on top of all that.my 84 wag is sitting low and I cant tell if its the leafs or the preach both sides thats after the 82 I love the 82 I don't know why I just do . the 84 is going to be more work maybe next year. you have to work with two things TIME AND MONEY yes....Don
My wagon sits the lowest out of the 3 and i just added a set of hot rod style wheels and said "yup, that looks good" my dad keeps harping on me to get new springs for it all the way around but I kinda like the lower stance
Bill is really good at explaining things over the phone. He's helped me out that way a number of times.
I have been letting the wagon sit at home due to it's unwanting to keep timing and using the 1991 chevy caviler that my sister gave me to get to and from work. This week i ordered a new timing chain through work and yesterday we took advantage of the nice day (after the rain it got up to 75 degrees). We pulled the timing cover to find out that indeed i was in need of a new timing chain. The chain has enough slack to be rubbing on the inside of the timing cover. Sadly I have to go out of town for most of today to deal with a problem that arose from my oldest son (kids don't listen these days). My father said that he is going to finish the job for me so we can have the car back on the road (I am not a huge fan of the limited space crapiler).
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Where those two metal hooks are inside the timing cover is where a plastic tensioner sits, thats why it was rubbing. You definitely need to get a tensioner for it.... it's just a piece of rubber/plastic that slides in...
Quote from: tougeagle on April 24, 2011, 01:05:16 PM
Where those two metal hooks are inside the timing cover is where a plastic tensioner sits, thats why it was rubbing. You definitely need to get a tensioner for it.... it's just a piece of rubber/plastic that slides in...
Not listed in the book nor was it ever present in 6 258's I seen. 3 had oe timing sets
Guess all 3 of yours fell out, bummer.
I called autozone and they said that it is not listed/ not available. Would it really hurt to put it all back together without or does the 4.0 Cherokee share the same tensioner
Quote from: 68AMXGOPAC on April 24, 2011, 03:50:21 PM
Guess all 3 of yours fell out, bummer.
So my books are wrong
Also the 2 4.0's I dug in have none.
So where does this mystery tensioner go. Not in the mood todig through pics
well, I decided to just put it back together with no tensioner. New chain is nice and tight with no slack so I think I am good for another 100k miles (I hope)
Quote from: thereverendbill on April 24, 2011, 08:28:53 PM
well, I decided to just put it back together with no tensioner. New chain is nice and tight with no slack so I think I am good for another 100k miles (I hope)
The point is your good as it never had a so called tensioner.
Quote from: mudkicker715 on April 24, 2011, 09:17:16 PM
Quote from: thereverendbill on April 24, 2011, 08:28:53 PM
well, I decided to just put it back together with no tensioner. New chain is nice and tight with no slack so I think I am good for another 100k miles (I hope)
The point is your good as it never had a so called tensioner.
there is a listing for it through autozone but they can't get it (don't surprise me). i also checked for the 4.0 that looks simular to the 4.2 unit but again but they can't even get the part number for that one. I just hate dealing with these parts stores around here
I checked both parts catalogs ('79 - '88) and the only chain tensioner I found was for an AMC I-4.
Mine has a tensioner in it, wish I had taken a photo. I would hope they would include tensioners in these things, unless it was the same kind of deal as the exhaust manifold gaskets, or lack thereof. That's exactly what those two "hooks" in the cover are for though...
i say your car is unnatural than. a tight chain needs no tensioner. it is tight. also i see it would be impossible for such a thing.
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>_< The tensioner slips between those two, it is just a plastic piece. I don't know why they're no longer sold. If I had the time and had absolutely nothing else to do I would pull my cover and take a picture of it. Though, I do have a true roller set, maybe the tensioner came with it. They wouldn't just put those grooves in the timing cover for the chain to wear off and deposit aluminum shavings into the oilpan, toasting main bearings or an oil pump later on.
Tabs?
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My engine must be pretty :censored: special then, since it was the only one ever made with a timing chain damper
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Jeep-Cherokee-Grand-Wrangler-4-0L-Timing-Chain-Set-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQfitsZMakeQ3aJeepQQhashZitem35b06c9c5bQQitemZ230593174619QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
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Bill, my apologies, it's not a tensioner, it's a damper. It's listed for the 4 cylinder but it is exactly the same for the 6 cylinder.
it's all good toug, I tried and tried to find a new one around town here but they are unavailible or the counter help is just too lazy to order me parts for a 242 that interchange with my 258.
I did get the new timing set installed and everything put back together. I also checked and regapped the plugs (45 for the time being from 48). i also found where my valve cover is leaking/pouring oil. It looks like I got what i paid for when I bought the ebay valve cover, it is warped. Now I get the fun task of taking the valve cover off and see if I can get it milled flat.
has anyone just cut the firewall to make it easier to remove and install the alluminum valve cover?
What I did was install a stud for the back instead of the bolt, makes life easier to an extent (no bolt hole fishing, haha), I did the same in the front too, mainly to aid in keeping the gasket where I want it during install, lol.
Quote from: shaggimo on April 29, 2011, 04:53:11 PM
What I did was install a stud for the back instead of the bolt, makes life easier to an extent (no bolt hole fishing, haha), I did the same in the front too, mainly to aid in keeping the gasket where I want it during install, lol.
I installed studs on both sides mainly because i got into the water jacket. Putting the rear bolt in really isn't an issue for me it's just getting the valve cover on and off the car that is a real pain.
I drilled a hole in part of the firewall so I could drill and tap the hole, then install the screw. Also, take the wiper motor off, it helps a lot.
there is definitely a trick to it, it's not much easier with a 4.0 valve cover. If I remember right, you have to keep it level as you lift it up until it hits the firewall then tilt the front down. BUUUT it's been a bit since I've had mine off, though it needs a new gasket..... don't buy cork :P
Quote from: tougeagle on April 30, 2011, 03:27:12 AM
there is definitely a trick to it, it's not much easier with a 4.0 valve cover. If I remember right, you have to keep it level as you lift it up until it hits the firewall then tilt the front down. BUUUT it's been a bit since I've had mine off, though it needs a new gasket..... don't buy cork :P
Fully noted about the cork gasket. I have already ordered the rubberlike replacement. I have tried everything to make a cork gasket seal on my car (3 gaskets latter and it still leaks). This time when the valve cover comes off I am going to straight edge the darn thing to see if my suspesion is correct about it being warped.
Today is going to be all about cleaning off the oilly engine and seeing if I can band aid the gasket till my new gasket comes. Parts thati got for the car are starting to pile up and I am a lot farther behind then I would like to be
Parts starting to pile up sounds like the story of my Eagle. I have not had any time to work on mine. Plus one of the things I have parts for I do not know how to do. Now I have new (to me) seats on a bus headed to Omaha.
it's been a while since an update on this car so I figure I might as well update. The car is back to having a flat hood because the hinges got stiff and my oldest son decided to hang on the hood to try and get it to close bending the crap out of it (kids will be kids), the throttle plate on the BBD wore out and I am currently waiting on a brand new MC2150 from auto zone (the first carb they sent me was a motorcraft something but not a 21xx). Monday should be parts day (carb was supposed to be delivered to my work yesterday, but it was an early day for me)
When you get it bill please post pics and how you did it and ran everything. I am having nothing but problems with mine.....
I should have some pictures once it's all on and tuned, I have a buddy i work with comming to tune it correctly for me cause he is just awesome with carbs. After the car is back running and driving I get to start getting it ready to pull a trailer (custom modified class 5 hitch and air shocks) from here to Illinois in september and some of my tools
no pictures, just depression. installed the carb tonight, set the timing and looked for the source of a lisp the engine has. my though is leaning towards a burnt valve and this means everything that I have done the past 3 months needs to be removed and I have to take the head off :( Tommarow in the daylight I am going to pull the plugs and do a compression test and see what kind of figures I can get. If it turns out that I do indeed have a burnt valve the only way I am going to take this is a 242 head and cam ........ i am starting to think this car loves to #%^* me off
Quote from: thereverendbill on June 22, 2011, 10:01:07 PM
no pictures, just depression. installed the carb tonight, set the timing and looked for the source of a lisp the engine has. my though is leaning towards a burnt valve and this means everything that I have done the past 3 months needs to be removed and I have to take the head off :( Tommarow in the daylight I am going to pull the plugs and do a compression test and see what kind of figures I can get. If it turns out that I do indeed have a burnt valve the only way I am going to take this is a 242 head and cam ........ i am starting to think this car loves to #%^* me off
She's just testing your loyalty and/or giving you some friendly hints that she wants an upgrade!
Still working on that lisp, trying to do everything I can to not remove the head off the car. Here's a photo of the engine bay as of right now
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I have found the source to my idle problem. the carb gasket included with the adapter isn't correct and leaves about 1/4 inch of the bottom of the carb open causing one heck of a vacuum leak. Tomarrow I am going to be hitting the local salvage yards (or sending my father out while I am at work) to get a used gasket. Nowhere in town has the gasket I need in stock and I don't want to depend on a ride to and from work for more than a day
Glad you found the problem before you pulled the head!! :occasion14:
Quote from: Smitch on June 26, 2011, 09:26:11 PM
Glad you found the problem before you pulled the head!! :occasion14:
I'll second that.
What gasket do you need? I wonder if one of the shops by me has it and I can get it and send it to you.
Text me.
Slowly getting back into the swing of things. Tonight we got the exhaust back to 100% since the mishap we had a few months ago, cleared up the last of the oil drips, and did a little house cleaning on the engine bay. We are finally ready to start moving back the car (transfer case is now wired into 4 wheel drive because I lost 2 wheel drive so a transfer case swap is in the near future). Here is a photo of the now completed engine
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Nice! Can't wait to get mine looking this good (and driving too ;)).
Looks very organized. Well done!
Quote from: amc78concord on July 01, 2011, 01:04:22 PM
Looks very organized. Well done!
thanks, latter on down the road I am going to get metal lines to replace 99% of the rubber lines so that the engine bay it totally clean.
Tonight I am going to be removing door panels, seats, carpet, and the entire cargo trim to start getting the stereo system up to par. Since the stereo I have in it is only a 2 channel with preamp outs I picked up a 240 watt amp and some new rear speakers that will be run off said amp. The seats are going to get a good scrubbing as well as the door panels. If all goes well I will have the power mirrors installed and all of the new door locks on the car as well
Quote from: thereverendbill on July 01, 2011, 04:56:08 PM
thanks, latter on down the road I am going to get metal lines to replace 99% of the rubber lines so that the engine bay it totally clean.
Tonight I am going to be removing door panels, seats, carpet, and the entire cargo trim to start getting the stereo system up to par. Since the stereo I have in it is only a 2 channel with preamp outs I picked up a 240 watt amp and some new rear speakers that will be run off said amp. The seats are going to get a good scrubbing as well as the door panels. If all goes well I will have the power mirrors installed and all of the new door locks on the car as well
Sweet! You going to add a subwoofer? You would need a little bit higher watt amp for that though
Quote from: amc78concord on July 02, 2011, 08:41:56 PM
Quote from: thereverendbill on July 01, 2011, 04:56:08 PM
thanks, latter on down the road I am going to get metal lines to replace 99% of the rubber lines so that the engine bay it totally clean.
Tonight I am going to be removing door panels, seats, carpet, and the entire cargo trim to start getting the stereo system up to par. Since the stereo I have in it is only a 2 channel with preamp outs I picked up a 240 watt amp and some new rear speakers that will be run off said amp. The seats are going to get a good scrubbing as well as the door panels. If all goes well I will have the power mirrors installed and all of the new door locks on the car as well
Sweet! You going to add a subwoofer? You would need a little bit higher watt amp for that though
nope, no sub woofer. I value my cargo space and I don't need my car rattling to pieces. 10 years ago I would have had the cargo area full of amps and subs, but those days are long gone and forgotten ;D
tonight was a pretty productive night as far as my wagon goes. Got the amp and rear speakers installed and tomarrow is going to be a "clean the car" day
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very nicely hidden amp
Nice work Bill
thanks guys. I never thought I'd say this, the parts pile awaiting install is just about depleted. The only things left on the inside of the car I can think of is installing the satellite radio antenna, tinting the windows, and installing the headliner
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Nope, it is not broken down or not running (this time). For the last 3 days at work I have been commissioned to drive the company rollback. Today was my last day driving that pile of garbage that they call a truck (the hydraulics work when they want to and it's really embarrassing when your at an accident scene and the dang truck won't fold the bed down or roll in). Since it was my last day driving the truck during the day my boss asked me if I would take it to the other shop and park it so the usual driver can pick it up in the morning. since the other shop is only 5 minutes away from where I live and I LOVE saving money on gas, I decided to just load my eagle up and take it along for a ride. I got lots of honks and comments on the way and that felt kinda good (to be honest I dunno if they where honking because they liked the car or honking because they thought the car was being hauled for scrap, cause i rarely get honks or comments on the car while I am driving it)
They were probably thinking, "What a smart Eagle, hitching a ride like that". ;D
haven't really done much with my wagon but rack on the miles around town.
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a 4x8 sheet of plywood almost fit ;D
As long as you are enjoying it.
Quote from: Gil-SX4 on August 16, 2011, 01:10:15 AM
As long as you are enjoying it.
I enjoy the heck out of the wagon. it is going to be a sad day when I transfer the plates off of it and put it in winter storage
That is a good day as you will be assuring it lasts another year. Rust is killing our ranks
almost finished with the AWD transformation of the wagon then realized that i forgot the speedo gear in ohio :banghead: So ....... this saturday i get to make the 6 hour round trip for a 3 dollar piece of plastic ::)
Hate when I forget stuff and have to retrace my steps.
i guess it is time to throw an update here. Recently i haven't been driving it much due to picking up an overnight job on top of my day job. My wife decided to take the eagle to work to use some of the gas before i put the cover over it for the winter, she started off to work and never noticed the trail of transmission fluid that was pouring from the cooler line that became loose and long story short transmission number 2 no longer moves. I just covered the car up and said the heck with it till spring. i am seriously thinking of swaping in an automatic from a xj cherokee to gain the over drive gear, but as i said everything is on hold with the wagon until spring time
I too am thinking an AW4 for the sx/4, it works fairly nice with the carbed jeep, the wiring is easy, so why not? Not to mention the aw4 is plentiful and pretty stout for what it is.
I have come out of my winter hibernation and decided to get the wagon out earlier this week to get it ready for summer driving and sitting all winter has taken it's toll. So far the short list of "get stuff done" is figure out why the taillights have failed (thinking it's a fuse), replace the intake manafold gasket, and figure out why the left front window isn't operating. Hopefully i will be able to get some pictures of it early next week with a new hood installed and the car all cleaned up
Shag & Rev,
The only prob I see with the AW4 is a length issue, it's gonna hit the floor boards. Well actually with it the T-Case is gonna hit them... I've been looking & measuring that one myself for Bess(wagon), I also really like the idea of an AX15 into the SX4 in place of the T5, but the T5 seems to be working so far, so maybe I'll hold off a while on that one...
How much longer are we talking doc? As in a whole new t case hump would need to be fabbed up, or just a little masaging done to sqeak it by?
This weeks project started out to be a simple intake and exhaust gasket install until everything was apart.
Once i had the manifolds off i started to look at them and realized that there is no way i can just put the car back together and kick myself in the head every time i open the hood and look at these well worn parts under my nice shiny 2100 carb
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So I decided to strip the intake down and take it into work with me to tape up and get blasted and painted
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After about 10 minutes in the blast building and in the hands of what i would call a media blasting expert the manifold was returned to me in the paint booth where it was coated in a heavy coat of 2000 degree engine paint then baked at 100 degrees for a half hour, fallowed by 2 more coats baked at 200 degrees for a half hour between coats
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The finished product is a flat black manifold that is ready to last another 30 years
Very nice! I will do this some day as well. Thanks for the great pictures of the manifolds.
One question, is that an oxygen sensor on the bottom of the exhaust manifold where the exhaust tube bolts on?
Quote from: rohnk on April 03, 2012, 08:03:07 PM
One question, is that an oxygen sensor on the bottom of the exhaust manifold where the exhaust tube bolts on?
indeed it is. it hasn't been hooked up the entire time that i have owned the car. it is extremely gulded in and there is no leak so it'll stay put until I get another exhaust manifold with better flow
Did you blast the insides of the exhaust manifold too? I was thinking of having my sandblaster guy do that with mine at some point and coat the inside with high temp paint or something.
Quote from: rohnk on April 04, 2012, 08:04:56 PM
Did you blast the insides of the exhaust manifold too? I was thinking of having my sandblaster guy do that with mine at some point and coat the inside with high temp paint or something.
I didn't cause the blaster we have at work is for blasting heavy gauge plate steel. these parts where blasted from a distance of about 5 feet away. thus far i am happy with the paint adhesion to the exhaust manifold but the aluminum intake the paint is just, blah
Nice work Bill.
It really hurts to do this but I am putting this car up for sale to get some quick money to drive across country to attend a funeral. It is currently inspected and has a clear title ....... 1500 or best offer
Quote from: rohnk on April 03, 2012, 08:03:07 PM
One question, is that an oxygen sensor on the bottom of the exhaust manifold where the exhaust tube bolts on?
I'm sure someone is curious. Yes, the O2 sensor hole on the later manifolds is compatible with the 02 sensor in the Hesco MPI kit and the Howell TBI kit. This lets you install a multiport fuel injection intake manifold and the sensor without disturbing your existing exhaust system.
Sorry to hear you're in that situation, Bill. You'll miss the car as soon as you sell it. I almost hope it doesn't sell and you're able to get to the funeral from another source of funds.
this will be my last posting on the build of the wagon because here in a few hours it will take on new ownership. looking back at what i started with i am proud of the wagon and i have no regrets in selling it because I enjoy building cars rather than owning them. I might add a few pictures of the sale a bit latter
Hope it went to a good home.