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Offline bigdog56e

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Re: ESPO leaf springs flattened?
« Reply #30 on: March 28, 2008, 07:53:10 AM »
 havasuhd,
           Ninety dollars for a pair of leaf springs, is a "steal". hope someone tries them, and gives some feedback on them.
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Re: ESPO leaf springs flattened?
« Reply #31 on: March 28, 2008, 12:38:53 PM »
I am ordering them but I guess we have to wait a year or so for me to see if their any good and leave feedback!!!   (I am putting them to the test also though cause I plan on installing them with a 2" longer shackle I am making to give me 1" of lift.)
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Re: ESPO leaf springs flattened?
« Reply #32 on: March 28, 2008, 12:46:23 PM »
It didn't take anywhere near a year to find out my ESPO springs flattened.
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Re: ESPO leaf springs flattened?
« Reply #33 on: March 28, 2008, 01:29:03 PM »
   I just went and looked at my springs, they are four leaf, which seems to be the norm. My thoughts are that AMC had the springs spec'ed too soft originally to give a better ride, and the aftermarket is building their springs to AMC specs and they are just not holding up. The leaves appear to be 5/16" thick, maybe a custom built 3/8" thick, three leaf spring would be better, but would probably break the budget.
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Re: ESPO leaf springs flattened?
« Reply #34 on: March 28, 2008, 01:57:10 PM »
Eddie, if you are correct, it seems to me that ESPO is not at fault.
I bought a set from another vendor that did exactly the same thing.
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"The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people;
that... it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
--Thomas Jefferson to John Cartwright, 1824. ME 16:45
What part of "shall not be infringed" do they not understand?
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Re: ESPO leaf springs flattened?
« Reply #35 on: March 28, 2008, 01:57:49 PM »
  Just called and had talk with Standens Springs in Indianopolis, they are not building any leaf springs for AMC vehicles, he said they had sold all their old stock to a vintage car supplier in Michigan a few years back, couldn't remember his name. He gave a name of a custom builder in Omaha, NE. Anyway I described the problem with the aftermarket springs, he said they were most likely built in China, he said one of their biggest accounts, Neway suspension, which is used on over the road trailers, went to China for their springs to cut cost, anyway the springs on the trailers were sagging two inches while setting on the lot before being sold, so Neway came back to them as their spring supplier.
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Re: ESPO leaf springs flattened?
« Reply #36 on: March 28, 2008, 02:01:23 PM »
I don't know about my ESPO springs, but the ones from kcsprings came from Mexico.
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"The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people;
that... it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
--Thomas Jefferson to John Cartwright, 1824. ME 16:45
What part of "shall not be infringed" do they not understand?
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01 Yukon 4X4
(There's more to life than fuel mileage)
83 Eagle wagon; shared responsibility as daily driver
88 Eagle white woody wagon; shared responsibility as daily driver
86 wagon parts car
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Re: ESPO leaf springs flattened?
« Reply #37 on: March 28, 2008, 02:06:23 PM »
several years ago Mopar began selling "restoration" leaf springs made in Mexico, they also had sagging problems. 
I had to add 2 extra leaves to get them back up to the correct height
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Re: ESPO leaf springs flattened?
« Reply #38 on: March 28, 2008, 02:09:03 PM »
  Jim,
       The fellow at Standens Springs told me all the manufacturers (car) were cutting cost in the 70's and 80's, he said they could save money by using thinner materail and fewer leaves, not just AMC but all brands. If anyone is interested in custom built, they can call Lanally (this may be spelled incorrectly) in Omaha, NE, 402-341-2036 and speak to Pedro.
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Re: ESPO leaf springs flattened?
« Reply #39 on: March 28, 2008, 02:11:39 PM »
  Maybe the springs are coming from China via Mexico.
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Re: ESPO leaf springs flattened?
« Reply #40 on: March 28, 2008, 02:12:42 PM »
If the McVeigh ones are still holding up after a couple months I will be interested in those at that price.
But thats the thing as stated by Eddie from the Standens place, we are not getting New springs for our cars, we are getting old stock or reconditioned ones from these places that are selling them.  Thats what I feel mine are from ESPO.
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Re: ESPO leaf springs flattened?
« Reply #41 on: March 28, 2008, 02:21:50 PM »
Does ESPO say where theirs are coming from?
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Re: ESPO leaf springs flattened?
« Reply #42 on: March 28, 2008, 02:26:12 PM »
I think I am just going to order the Mcveigh ones and see what happens.....(I will post pics and keep you all updated) dont know why they would tell me they were made by Standen Springs though if Standen says they don't make any to fit AMC???   
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Re: ESPO leaf springs flattened?
« Reply #43 on: March 28, 2008, 02:46:59 PM »
has anyone tried Eaton Detroit ? 
says made in USA and OEM supplier, theres even AMC listings
I havn't tried them yet but have heard good things about them in the past

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Re: ESPO leaf springs flattened?
« Reply #44 on: March 28, 2008, 03:08:21 PM »
havasuhd,
           Its worth a go, the price is right anyway. Good luck with them. Standen Springs had the specs on the springs, just not making them, so he said.
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