ESPO leaf springs flattened?

[IowaEagle]

Could have been NOS -- left overs for other AMC undersprung applications?  Or maybe a return?

[havasuhd]

Anybody tried McVeighs' Truck Springs, Inc.?  They have new leaf springs with bushings for Eagles for $138 shipped to your door.

[MetalBird]

Is that $138 individual or for the pair?

[jim]

My leaf springs from ESPO and the heavier-duty set from KC Spring all flattened.
I gave no thought to whether mine may have been reconditioned, and of course it's too late to tell, now.
I have wondered if I could use a leaf from one set to beef up the other.  However, I don't want any lift - just stock,
with a little more load-carrying capacity.
The coils I got from ESPO worked too well -  they lifted the front, which was not my intention.
Someone on the Forum got the non-ac coils and it seemed to bring his back to a more appropriate height.  I'm strongly considering
doing that.

[havasuhd]

Is that $138 individual or for the pair?

Here is what is says:
"1 COMPLETE PAIR (2 FACTORY SPRINGS) FOR REAR OF 1980-1983 AMERICAN MOTORS EAGLE 2-4 DR MODELS. SPRINGS HAVE 4 LEAVES, 2-1/2" WIDE, AND 52" IN LENGTH.  ALL BUSHINGS INCLUDED."

They are $90 and shipping is $48 to the lower 48 states.

[MetalBird]

Why just the 80-83 years?
I would honestly be suspicious of any leaf springs that "cheap" considering everything now.
But I dont know.

[Route 66 Rambler]

90 bucks seems too cheap to me for a pair.  I think JC Whitney wants over 120 apiece for Gremlin springs.  It was something like 120/pair on the front, though.  Don't know if they have Eagle ones, though.  Will Cherokee springs fit at the rear?  You could use somebody like Rubicon Express or some other trail shops for Jeeps.

Maybe write to some of the Jeep trail parts makes and ask them about starting up with Eagle rear springs, and point out there is a little market here that is not being served by existing vendors.  Because the existing vendors are making car stuff, not 4x4 stuff.  That seems to be obvious.  It doesn't have to ride like a truck to be able to trail run it, either.
mike

[Shin-X]

Well anyone who has had problems with their ESPO springs could always call them and complain like I did, or ask about their manufacturing process......though Laura will swear up and down that its your fault and not their springs fault.

They are very defensive over there it seems.

[IowaEagle]

I am sure they are until they get more complaints stating the same thing.  If you call them or mention it here, make sure you mention facts not opinions.

[Jurjen]

I understand that some members lost money here, but let's consider that ESPO is one of not many suppliers for Eagle suspension parts.
I think it would be better to find a solution together with ESPO for this problem, so that future customers are better served.
They probably copied the Eagle springs and by doing that they copied the problem of tail sagging too.
I read that members who added a leaf have no problems, so maybe we can ask them to make a four leaf prototype.

[jim]

I'm not going out in the dark to count leaves, but isn't 4 leaves standard?

[MetalBird]

Yeah, mine came with 4 from them... so they should automatically be doing the add-a-leaf for us so we dont have to go thru the hassle of doing it ourselves 3 months later.
If anything maybe they could send us all the extra leaf kit.

[bigdog56e]

Why just the 80-83 years?


  In the late 70's and early 80's I worked in a NAPA, we sold leaf springs and they had year model and application ink stamped on them in white, the name of the supplier just popped into my old brain, it was Columbus Trainor Spring in Columbus Ohio.
                                                                                                                 Eddie

[Shin-X]

Well when I called I didnt demand new springs or anything.

I just decided to ask for a discount on some new ones (again, I wasnt under warranty anymore and didnt notice how bad it really was because of my air shocks).

So technically they didnt have to do anything for me as I was out of warranty, but she ended up giving me a 20 or 25 percent discount on new ones.

I also ordered new centerbolts as well so I can take the new ones and combine a leaf or two (depending how many are in it) from the old ones which should hopefully level it out. My car is a little bit raised already in the front so I need to even out the back.


But the thing that started me posting this thread, is that they were absolutely positive that *I* somehow destroyed my leaf springs and caused them to flatten out, and that there is NOTHING wrong with the springs at all. Laura actually ENCOURAGED me to ask around becuase she said there would not be even a SINGLE complaint about their springs and that there must me something wrong with my car or wrong with the way I installed them.

She said that NO ONE would complain.....in fact it is seeming more like no one who HAS bought their leaf springs is completely satisfied with them as she claimed you all would be.

I must say though, the front coils have held up quite nicely on me...just the rear leaf springs have been a problem.

[havasuhd]

I emailed McVeighs' Truck Springs, Inc. and asked about their springs and told them I was worried about them flattening out and here is the reply I got:

"Hello; These springs are manufactured by Standens Springs in Indianapolis. They have a very stringent quality control process, and offer a full replacement for 2 years. This means shipping, etc.--no charge. Thank you, Tom"