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Re: Where to find parts to rebuild/fix Transfer case
« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2012, 03:46:09 PM »
Okay, but do the rebuild kits actually work. Also my parents are thinking of having your local mechanic do it for cheaper and are going to get a dolly to bring the car back the 1.5 hours journey to him. As summit transmission wanted at least 1400 to rebuild the transfer case.
They want $1400 because that viscous clutch is going to be replaced. You are better off with another used transfercase. Also, I'm against bringing these cars to transmission places. I waited 3 months on a shop to do a rebuild that would have taken me 2 days. I would have done it myself except for the fact that my family is insane and turns ownership of this car into a daily battle whenever something starts to go wrong. I don't have a shop anymore either.

If you wanted to do this yourself you would probably be facing the same scenario. Just remember that $120 for junk that lasts another few years is a better alternative than letting some experienced idiot hijack your entire life during work season just because they can't figure out what's wrong. As the owner and driver, you are more in tune with the flaws of this vehicle than anyone and in consequence, the only likely candidate to genuinely fix anything. Remember that.
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Re: Where to find parts to rebuild/fix Transfer case
« Reply #16 on: June 05, 2012, 06:38:59 PM »
Okay, but do the rebuild kits actually work. Also my parents are thinking of having your local mechanic do it for cheaper and are going to get a dolly to bring the car back the 1.5 hours journey to him. As summit transmission wanted at least 1400 to rebuild the transfer case.
They want $1400 because that viscous clutch is going to be replaced. You are better off with another used transfercase. Also, I'm against bringing these cars to transmission places. I waited 3 months on a shop to do a rebuild that would have taken me 2 days. I would have done it myself except for the fact that my family is insane and turns ownership of this car into a daily battle whenever something starts to go wrong. I don't have a shop anymore either.

If you wanted to do this yourself you would probably be facing the same scenario. Just remember that $120 for junk that lasts another few years is a better alternative than letting some experienced idiot hijack your entire life during work season just because they can't figure out what's wrong. As the owner and driver, you are more in tune with the flaws of this vehicle than anyone and in consequence, the only likely candidate to genuinely fix anything. Remember that.

Good point. carnuck mentioned he has a PN 129 good used for sale for $100. Just need to get a hold of him to ask some questions. When is he usually on? Have you done business with him? Can't remember if I put in a NP 119 that would make it constant 4 wheel correct? are there any modifications I would need to make.

Also if mine has vac pumps to the front axle to engage 4-wheel drive then is it shift on the fly?
« Last Edit: June 05, 2012, 07:51:13 PM by Eagle1984 »

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Re: Where to find parts to rebuild/fix Transfer case
« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2012, 12:18:07 AM »
Shift on the fly is non-vacuum.
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Re: Where to find parts to rebuild/fix Transfer case
« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2012, 04:10:03 PM »
Sorry, edited that, here on the 'Nest. Use generic Dextron compatable ATF, up to the bottom of the filler bolt.

how about dextron II, Know the places around here sell oil that is made for all makes of Dextron II and III

Where would I even fill it?

Anything Dextron II or III compatible.



I agree about finding a used one from someone. Put a wanted ad up, someone should be able to send you one. They're going to want to replace the coupling on a rebuild, and that's the most expensive part, it could or could not be bad, and a place shouldn't be guessing on that until it's torn down.

A 119 is a full time case, and stop to shift (Vacuum front axle) was 1981 1/2 to 1983.
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Re: Where to find parts to rebuild/fix Transfer case
« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2012, 04:42:43 PM »
Was not really able to check for false neutral as summit transmission has taken he transfer case completely apart. Though when I looked through the parts I did find a round silver piece with 4 screw holes that got slightly smaller by steps as it got near the center that was broken in 3 pieces. Two small ones and the big one. Looks like it cracked then broke. defiantly will need a new one.
Also mine was made august 1983 and has the front end where there are vac um lines going to part of the front end that is one the passengers side, next to the c-joint for the passenger side front tire. Is it shift on the fly?
          I will have to double check but I am pretty sure it also had a round pump like thing next to it, like in this picture. It did have the square part with the cover on it though and vacuum lines.
http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x427/captspillane/Eagleweb%20Postings/DSCF0846.jpg
« Last Edit: June 07, 2012, 06:58:34 PM by Eagle1984 »

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Re: Where to find parts to rebuild/fix Transfer case
« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2012, 01:39:38 PM »
August '83 SHOULD have been a 1984 car, but AMC may have been using up some old stock or someone ordered it that way. But you have a stop-and-shift if that's on the front axle.

I would pull the cover on the front axle shift cover while the car is apart and check for the front axle to see if it's locked. If not, you can do it now, or you can leave it stop-and-shift. It's your choice. The stop and shift may get slightly better fuel economy, but the shift-on-the-fly is more reliable and more convenient.

If you're not sure and you want to wait before you do a permanent change, then you can use some vacuum hose to provide a constant engaged front axle until you decide. You can always reconnect the stock vacuum lines if you change your mind.
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Re: Where to find parts to rebuild/fix Transfer case
« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2012, 12:42:35 PM »
What do you guys think of this site. They mentioned they sell trans rebuilds.

http://www.midwesttrans.com/prodlk.html

I contacted midwesttrans.com and they responded within 20 minutes.  They told me they can sell me a rebuilt NP119 viscous coupler for $345.  Very polite and helpful people.  I had previously contacted drivetrain.com but they couldn't be bothered to respond to my inquiries.

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Re: Where to find parts to rebuild/fix Transfer case
« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2012, 01:18:58 PM »
August '83 SHOULD have been a 1984 car, but AMC may have been using up some old stock or someone ordered it that way. But you have a stop-and-shift if that's on the front axle.

I would pull the cover on the front axle shift cover while the car is apart and check for the front axle to see if it's locked. If not, you can do it now, or you can leave it stop-and-shift. It's your choice. The stop and shift may get slightly better fuel economy, but the shift-on-the-fly is more reliable and more convenient.

If you're not sure and you want to wait before you do a permanent change, then you can use some vacuum hose to provide a constant engaged front axle until you decide. You can always reconnect the stock vacuum lines if you change your mind.

September is the start of the next model year, not August (at least not back then)
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Re: Where to find parts to rebuild/fix Transfer case
« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2012, 12:05:40 PM »
August '83 SHOULD have been a 1984 car, but AMC may have been using up some old stock or someone ordered it that way. But you have a stop-and-shift if that's on the front axle.

I would pull the cover on the front axle shift cover while the car is apart and check for the front axle to see if it's locked. If not, you can do it now, or you can leave it stop-and-shift. It's your choice. The stop and shift may get slightly better fuel economy, but the shift-on-the-fly is more reliable and more convenient.

If you're not sure and you want to wait before you do a permanent change, then you can use some vacuum hose to provide a constant engaged front axle until you decide. You can always reconnect the stock vacuum lines if you change your mind.

September is the start of the next model year, not August (at least not back then)


It seems that they happen earlier now, (or I'm just older?). I wouldn't have figured they'd still be making the current year's cars that late in the model year anyway but that instead they would be building up inventory for the new year. I guess you never can tell.
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Re: Where to find parts to rebuild/fix Transfer case
« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2012, 04:27:35 PM »
Finally sort of back on my feet. If you still need the NP129 I have, I need a zip to ship. Guesstimate is $100 for cross country shipping otherwise.
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Re: Where to find parts to rebuild/fix Transfer case
« Reply #25 on: June 12, 2012, 05:45:44 AM »
Finally sort of back on my feet. If you still need the NP129 I have, I need a zip to ship. Guesstimate is $100 for cross country shipping otherwise.

zip code is 46563. Though it looks like my parents have just decided to get another car but they are letting me keep the eagle. Just need to get the money saved to do the repair work.

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Re: Where to find parts to rebuild/fix Transfer case
« Reply #26 on: June 13, 2012, 03:33:35 AM »
I would get it out of that shop. It sounds like they may plan to bill you $500 just for taking apart your old transfercase.
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Re: Where to find parts to rebuild/fix Transfer case
« Reply #27 on: June 13, 2012, 03:38:49 AM »
I would get it out of that shop. It sounds like they may plan to bill you $500 just for taking apart your old transfercase.

I already did charged me about 300 for work and tow. Still interested in your transfer case of course. Might be getting a Eagle Vision as my daily driver.
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Re: Where to find parts to rebuild/fix Transfer case
« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2012, 01:13:54 PM »
Oooooo! Talk about money pits! (Visions are notorious for auto trans dropping out every 50,000 miles unless you are gentle with them) I hope they gave you back all the bolts and parts? Get it ASAP if not!
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Re: Where to find parts to rebuild/fix Transfer case
« Reply #29 on: June 14, 2012, 04:00:25 PM »
Oooooo! Talk about money pits! (Visions are notorious for auto trans dropping out every 50,000 miles unless you are gentle with them) I hope they gave you back all the bolts and parts? Get it ASAP if not!

I believe they did. couple of boxes with bolts. Parents have decided to see if our mechanic can fix it. He is thinking of attaching a steel throttle cable and getting ride of the vacuum system all together. Still interested in buying your transfer case then. How much was shipping. Will need to see if he knows how to lock front axle.

 

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