84 sedan project (beginners luck)

[Murdoc1905]

Yeah I have a cart full of stuff from rock auto, once I bleed and check the back brakes I'll see what all I need to add brake wise,

That fill valve looks like it was put in by the previous owner.
Here's a pic of it, I'll get a better one when I get home.

I imagine the heater control valve is just to the left of the red circle, silver with tubes going into it.

[vangremlin]

Yep, that's the heater control valve, sitting to the left of the red circle. 

[amarshall]

Ah, I see.  Based on where that valve has been placed, it should have coolant flowing through it all the time - even if the heater control valve is closed.  Strange that it would only leak when the heater was turned off.  Maybe that changes the pressure in the system just enough...who knows?

Nobody asked, but I LOOOVE RockAuto.  They have so much of my money.

[Murdoc1905]

Huh, I'll have to look up how it's supposed to be set up and maybe switch it back. I wonder if there was an overheating issue? And yeah Ive got like 70 some odd things in my cart and the total is only like $300. Can't beat that!

[Murdoc1905]

So messing with the stereo issue, the stereo itself works fine, I put 12v to it and it turned on and worked fine, I checked the plug with a multimeter and it only read like 4v, or 0.4v it's hard to tell exactly with the cheap multimeters. I checked the radio/cig fuse and it's fine, I get 12v from the cig lighter (that power was what I used to test the radio) still don't get sound after I hook up the radio however as the same or similar issue is happening with the amp. Only 0.4 volts getting to it and it's not powering on. The amp does not run directly to the battery as far as I can tell, I haven't been able to trace the wires successfully, but I know there are no extra positive wires connected to the battery terminal. Any ideas on troubleshooting I should do?

[amcfool1]

hi, that  "fill valve" is just a "T" fitting used to do an old school engine cooling system flush. and is not necessary , replace the entire hose, and leave it out, ie, just run a complete one piece hose without that fitting.  The good news is now you know your cooling system has been flushed at some point! good luck, gz

[Murdoc1905]

Thanks, I'll be sure to do that. Started the car for a little bit today and it looks like it might be leaking from the heater control valve. Tomorrow I'll take it for a little drive and see how it reacts

[AMC1]

Interesting how times have changed - talking about day-time driving lights. In the 50s it was illegal to have such a thing at least in Illinois - not sure about federal laws. I think things started to change in the 60s when people turned their headlights on during holidays only. I remember seeing signs "My headlights are on for safety". I'm all for safety but I doubt that even one accident was prevented because of this. I still wonder about the dual spot-lights that I commonly see. They were seen in the lead sleds of the day (custom cars) but only one was allowed to be working. My older brother had a 50 merc & I was with him when he bought a second spot-light for the passenger side in a bone yard & drilled & installed it but made sure it didn't work.

[Murdoc1905]

Haha, the more you know. https://www.motorists.org/issues/dlr/history/
I guess It was all just marketing wank.

[Murdoc1905]

So took it for a very quick run today, just wanted to make sure the transmission worked fully as that was the only part I was unsure of to this point, that leak got pretty nasty, it is just an overpressure blowing by that added fill port, other than that the engine ran fine.

[Murdoc1905]

Looks like my luck ran out haha, have a blown or never seated properly exhaust gasket. So since I will need to be going at least that far, how difficult is replacing the intake/exhaust gasket? What other things should I replace or is worth upgrading while I'm in there?



Hose that got shreded, probably because of the gasket.


The gasket had been like that since I got it, I kept seeing smoke coming from that area but assumed it was just crud on the motor.

[amcfool1]

hi, replacing the intake/exhaust gasket is a pretty big, though not undoable job, if you are at least somewhat mechanically apt. as to what to replace, again, any and all soft parts, especially old vac/fuel/etc hoses The intake/exhaust manifolds need to come loose together, since they are joined by the EGR tube, which you will want to leave alone, as it is a BEAR to remove. good luck, gz

[Murdoc1905]

Well good luck for me again, all the bolts connecting the intake and exhaust manafolds were loose, so no broken bolts lol. Wonder why the gaskets blew.. Hmmmmm. Anyway got the easy part out of the way, just have to find a way to remove these bad boys.

However... In looking at the gasket closer, could the parts that are out just be to connect the exhaust gasket together? Because that's what it looks like... Lol

[Murdoc1905]

So I am reasonably sure the gasket is perfectly fine. Chalk this up to my lack of auto experience lol. The reason it was smoking was because of the loose bolts. So I'm going to clean up what I can, then add some high heat anti-seize on the bolts and tighten them properly using the handy Epedia http://amceaglesden.com/guide/Intake/Exhaust_Tightening_Sequence I'll just have to find the proper torque specs. Bright side is I found a few more tubes I need to replace, and found a vacuum Leak that I will have to track down where it goes. Plus since it's off might as well take a good look at the carb. Is the reason people tell me not to try to take off the egr tube is because it is hard to get to? Or it breaks easy? It doesn't look too difficult to loosen, and if I can I'd like to add some anti-seize to the nuts to ensure easy removal in case something happens.

[vangremlin]

Haha, the more you know. https://www.motorists.org/issues/dlr/history/
I guess It was all just marketing wank.

I'll try not to hijack this thread too much, but....

Its too bad the article in the link doesn't include any dates as a reference for DRL's.  Back in the 1960s, my mother worked for AutoCrat Safety Belt Company, which made seatbelts for Ford and GM (at a minimum).  AutoCrat got bought out by Jim Robbins, he was a big name in racing back then.  Anyways, somewhere around that time, the company introduced what were called "running lights."  They were a single light about 2-3" in diameter, with a clear lense, that were to be mounted in the center of the grill of a car.  They turned on anytime the car was running.  Because my mom worked for the company, they gave some to our family, and we had running lights on our cars at that time.  Apparently they were trying to convince the government of how much safer they made the cars, in hopes that they would be mandated, just like seat belts.  That never came to pass though. 

Unfortunately, Mr. Robbins died in a plane crash in 1966, although his companies lived on.  Here is a picture of Lee Roy Yarbrough's Ford Torino that he drove when he won the 1969 Daytona 500, with Jim Robbins name on the quarter panel.

Now back to your regularly scheduled thread.....