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Offline blk-majik

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AC Delete?
« on: February 28, 2011, 05:16:36 PM »
We're making progress on preparing our SX4 race project. Our car was equipped with the AC option, so the next things on the list is to remove it :) By looking at the belt routing, it appears that if we just removed it, we'd lose tension on the alternator pulley. We considered fabricating a bracket to re-use the AC clutch pulley assembly to keep the belts in the same position, but this doesn't seem optimal.

How are belts on the 258's without the AC option laid out? Do they use a dead pulley like I was suggesting, or do they relocate the alternator? Any pictures would be helpful.

If we were to just look for an alternator or AC delete bracket at junk yard, would one off any non-AC 258 do, or have changes been made in certain models/years?

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Re: AC Delete?
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2011, 06:33:11 PM »
I know whem my AC went in the caddy , I found a delete pulley at NAPA , removed the compressor and this bolted in the same holes , not sure on the Eagles though..........
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Re: AC Delete?
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2011, 07:24:20 PM »
The alternator is relocated upward where the ac pump is.
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Re: AC Delete?
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2011, 11:04:04 PM »
with AC


and then after we removed AC, alternator is indeed relocated up.



non AC bracket is helpful
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Re: AC Delete?
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2011, 11:29:11 PM »
thx for the pictures mojo! seems pretty easy :)

casper, I'll message you  :occasion14:
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Re: AC Delete?
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2011, 02:08:47 AM »
Egad !! .. I spy plastic valve cover.. Hehe..
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Re: AC Delete?
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2011, 06:27:02 AM »
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Re: AC Delete?
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2011, 03:22:14 PM »
why not just put a double groove pulley on the alt and call it good, with a shorter belt of course??? I went that route myself.
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Re: AC Delete?
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2011, 07:39:55 PM »
got any pics of it? or any threads discussing it?
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Re: AC Delete?
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2011, 03:24:47 AM »
http://forums.amceaglenest.com/index.php?topic=33386.0

Not really detailed but:
1. remove the ac stuff, leave the bracket
2. Remove alternator
3. remove pulley from alt
4. Install double groove pulley (1965 -1995 ford pulley work well).
5. Install alternator
6. Install belt around crank and alternator. ( think I used a 17400, better off a little smaller, like a 17395)

 The front end of the eagle currently sits in front about 3 1/2' of solid ice and snow (the back's no better)... so I can't take a pic.
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Re: AC Delete?
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2011, 06:51:43 PM »
'84 Eagle, 258

Bearing shot on AC clutch/idler.  Want to remove AC compressor. [don't use it] but, of course, still want to have the alternator work.  See several options.  All require 'outside' parts - ie. Ford pully. 

Could the pullys be taken off the AC, placed on the alt. and the alt. mounted on the AC brackets??













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Offline Nate Tidwell

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Re: AC Delete?
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2011, 06:58:58 PM »
The way the pullies mount are very different between ac and alternators
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Re: AC Delete?
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2011, 05:44:14 PM »
Anyone know how to find a A/C delete pulley?  Looked on NAPA online - no results.
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Offline Nate Tidwell

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Re: AC Delete?
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2011, 11:15:06 AM »
I don't think they have them for our engines.
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Re: AC Delete?
« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2011, 02:43:31 PM »
Bummer!  What would you think would be my next best solution?
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