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Title: There's been a casualty.
Post by: apes17 on September 14, 2010, 10:50:45 PM
The unthinkable happened today. Not five minutes after I'd gotten home from school and was inside changing into my pajamas I heard a huge BOOM outside. I thought 'hmm, that sounded kind of close, let me look out the window.' Black smoke engulfed my Eagle coming from under the hood. The hood is bulged up in the center and it looks like its bubbling.

I run outside, screaming "SH!T!!!" and pop the hood to release the pressure, but then I saw the flames.

Called the fire department in a manic panic exclaiming to the dispatch woman that my car is on fire in my driveway.

A policeman comes not a few minutes later, and I'm like "Where is the fire department?!" The policeman replies that they are on their way, and he speaks into his walkie-talkie something along the lines of "Yep, it's on fire."

FINALLY I hear the sirens. I'm just standing on my porch watching my baby burn. BURN. There's stuff falling out from the bottom of the car on fire, the smoke is incredibly large and just thick and black, you can't even SEE inside my car because of the smoke.

It felt like forever but the fire department got the hose up and running and started to spray 'er down. I had already "unlocked" the hood to pop it but they were having trouble and I couldn't possibly yell over the noise to explain to them to turn the latch thingie to get the :censored: thing open.

Then they grabbed the axe. I held my breath and prayed they wouldn't have to hack into it. Thank God one of the fireman figured out the hood and lifted it up, revealing HUGE, FIERY, ANGRY DEPTHS OF heck to shoot out from under the hood. The flames were a good two feet high above the open hood door.

They doused the flames with their magical water foam and I was nearly crying in hysteria and anguish over my prized Eagle. Literally, as it just won 1st place not three weeks ago.

They got the fire out, they didn't have to spray inside the car, and now I'm in complete and utter shock and despair.

My dad finally gets home after I call him at work as the fire department are taking their leave. I'm standing in the driveway in my pajamas just staring at my car.

The :censored: car blew up. Exploded, practically.

Here are the horrible pictures of the aftermath. It hurts me just to go outside and see it sitting there all sad and lonely and depressing.

I warn you, you may tear up.


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We have NO idea what caused it exactly. The d@mn thing was off when it blew. I can't imagine what would've happened had I still been inside the vehicle. If I were on the road and it happened I don't know what I would've done. Run like heck, I guess. It was horrible. There are no words to describe my pain.

The first thing I said to my dad when he got out of the car was "Do we have to throw it away?!" to which he replied, "No, we can rebuild it."

WE CAN REBUILD IT.

Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: eagle87 on September 14, 2010, 11:01:12 PM
My dads 87 eagle did a similar thing only it had just been running and I was in it, it was also in our driveway, we got the fire out by spraying the flames with the fire extinguisher and then smashing the grill to get the hood open and shovelled snow on it then the fire dept came to verify it was out, we caught ours at the point where only engine damage occurred no paint damage, but the carb, valvecover, and wiring all melted and vacuum lines, fortunately we had just had the car appraised at $7000 so the insurance helped pay to fix the damage.
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: apes17 on September 14, 2010, 11:07:30 PM
How long ago did that happen to you?

I wished those darn firemen would've been faster, but I'm just thankful they got there at all, of course. I just saw all the stuff melting and I was like "THE QUICKER YOU SPRAY IT, THE MORE YOU SAVE!"
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: mick on September 14, 2010, 11:16:51 PM
THAT TOTALLY SUCKS!!!  I would vomit if I saw my wagon in flames.  I have this image in my mind of your dad getting out of his car, smoking a Malborro, all calm, cool , collected, like "ah no biggie, we can rebuild it".  And rebuild it you should!  How bad is the interior?
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: eagle87 on September 14, 2010, 11:37:41 PM
Quote from: apes17 on September 14, 2010, 11:07:30 PM
How long ago did that happen to you?

I wished those darn firemen would've been faster, but I'm just thankful they got there at all, of course. I just saw all the stuff melting and I was like "THE QUICKER YOU SPRAY IT, THE MORE YOU SAVE!"


Its was feb,14,2008, and the cars just being resaftied this week, I just worked on it off and on, and luckily located a mint wiring harness
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: Mavericke on September 14, 2010, 11:47:14 PM
Whew... I was really worried at first. I mean, she looks bad... but man, it could have been so much worse. You actually got off pretty good. All your plastic still looks good, you still have bumper caps, interior survived...

You just need some upper engine work, a wiring harness, hoses, and paint that hood... and of course you need to figure out what caused it...

...but considering what could have happened... be happy bro. Your Eagle will fly again! Stay focused. Now you can rebuild her... make her stronger... faster... more agile... then it... it wil be alive! ALIVE!!! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *hiccup*

Sorry, I get carried away sometimes...
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: apes17 on September 14, 2010, 11:47:27 PM
Quote from: mick on September 14, 2010, 11:16:51 PM
THAT TOTALLY SUCKS!!!  I would vomit if I saw my wagon in flames.  I have this image in my mind of your dad getting out of his car, smoking a Malborro, all calm, cool , collected, like "ah no biggie, we can rebuild it".  And rebuild it you should!  How bad is the interior?

Haha I was the one smoking. I was so stressed out all I could do was stand there and stare at it. The interior is actually perfectly fine, it was only under the hood that's super bad. The inside of the car smells horrible of course. I need to wipe everything down because it's got a light film over everything.

I couldn't even think I was so upset when I saw it up in flames. I couldn't even cry I was so upset. The fireman was like "I can tell you're a fan and that you're quite attached" and all I could do was nod. He saw the other two Eagles in the driveway so he was like "It's gonna be okay."

Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: apes17 on September 14, 2010, 11:50:30 PM
Quote from: Mavericke on September 14, 2010, 11:47:14 PM
Whew... I was really worried at first. I mean, she looks bad... but man, it could have been so much worse. You actually got off pretty good. All your plastic still looks good, you still have bumper caps, interior survived...

You just need some upper engine work, a wiring harness, hoses, and paint that hood... and of course you need to figure out what caused it...

...but considering what could have happened... be happy bro. Your Eagle will fly again! Stay focused. Now you can rebuild her... make her stronger... faster... more agile... then it... it wil be alive! ALIVE!!! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *hiccup*

Sorry, I get carried away sometimes...

Oh I know it'd could've been much much worse! My mom was like "What if you were in it when it happened?!" I just kept staring at the particles melting off in flames and wanting the firemen to put it out much much faster so it would salvage more. It was so distressing though. I'm just at a loss of words.

The grills is pretty much shot but I think I have a spare, but danget I just painted that one along with the headlight frames...:<

My dad's working on getting my Kammback up and going so I can get to and from school. Who knows how long this rebuild will take...a lot of money that I don't have right now. My dad was like "Maybe it's a sign that we need to perfect it before you drive it, you know, lift it more like you wanted and such." All I could do was stare at him. Haha.
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: mick on September 15, 2010, 12:07:06 AM

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My dad was like "Maybe it's a sign that we need to perfect it before you drive it, you know, lift it more like you wanted and such." All I could do was stare at him. Haha.
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I like his attitude. 
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: mick on September 15, 2010, 12:09:51 AM
You know some of the best steel you can get is heat treated.
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: IRON HORSE on September 15, 2010, 12:31:48 AM
   That is awful ... and I know something of how you feel. I had a small oil leak at the valve cover and occasionally could smell hot oil. I let it go ... then one day it happened :'( . I had just got home and took the dog down to the woods to do his thing. After about 15 minutes in the woods we were on the way back up to the house when I saw a gray cloud of smoke drifting across the yard. Yep it was my eagle, my walk turned into a run for the house and the extinguisher. Lucky the hood release hadn't melted, and was able to pop the hood and get the fire out.   Looked alot like yours under the hood. Took about a year to get it back on the road.
  I have lots of parts and if you need any let me know ... If you are serious about fixing it, make a list and I will see what I can do for you.

                                                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   Iron Horse
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: mick on September 15, 2010, 12:36:42 AM
Quote from: IRON HORSE on September 15, 2010, 12:31:48 AM
  If you are serious about fixing it, make a list and I will see what I can do for you.

                                                                     Iron Horse


Yup what he said.......together we can pool enough stuff to get you back on the road.
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: apes17 on September 15, 2010, 02:26:39 AM
Thanks guys, that really means a lot. I'm still in shock about all of it. My dad was immediately positive about it, which is good.

I'll scrounge up a list soon and get back to you. I anticipate it'll be a long time to get it back to normal, but I'm hoping no more than two years if not sooner. But who knows.

Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: maddog on September 15, 2010, 02:55:37 AM
that is so not cool. i saw the title and immediately thought that another eagle had been crushed. it hurts to see those pics though. but as long as you or your dad is good with tools you can fix her.
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: EaglePilot on September 15, 2010, 05:48:05 AM
soooo very sad!

here's an egg to cheer you up a tiny bit.
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: IowaEagle on September 15, 2010, 06:32:09 AM
WOW!  Rebuilding shall happen.  Get that list figured out and I know it will be a list that will be added to, so please update as needed.
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: Sævar Örn on September 15, 2010, 07:12:39 AM
Wow that really sucks, any idea as to what caused it? oil leak on exhaust manifold???

some fumes must have been under the hood since you heard an explosion I guess
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: 83Eagle! on September 15, 2010, 07:50:52 AM
Wow that is crazy.  I can't believe it happened.  I really like your Dad's attitude though.  And the fire could have been a lot worse really.  I wonder what caused it?
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: shaggimo on September 15, 2010, 07:53:03 AM
 :covereyes: That sucks! As mentioned though it could have been much worse, at least you caught it when you did so it wasn't a total loss.
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: Pat on September 15, 2010, 11:00:13 AM
Better than I expected after reading. My first thought was somehow the gas tank had gotten hot & blew up when I read "& then it blew up". As everyone has said, that's savable. Lot of hard work & time, but savable. Good luck on the rebuild & listen to your dad. He's got the right attitude. He didn't even question, just said "We can do this".
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: Mechanic on September 15, 2010, 11:33:34 AM
Wow..... What could of happened?? there's not much that can just EXPLODE under a hood. there is the gas in the carb, the battery, and the fuel lines. but all those are in places so that they don't catch fire and explode. boggles the mind and absolutely HORENDOUS that it happened to such a nice car! ditto on the parts, despite the distance.
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: El Matador on September 15, 2010, 12:50:42 PM
Very sorry to hear this, but the silver lining is that you caught it early enough.  It doesn't take long for a car fire to go from minor damage to total loss.  My worst nightmare (other than something happening to my family of course) is one or more of my cars going up in flames.

Since this is a US Eagle it will have a catalytic converter, and we know how hot those get.  I wouldn't be surprised if it somehow played a role in this, although the pictures show the fire seemed to be at the top of the engine.  I think the first order of business is to do some CSI style forensic investigation to determine the root cause, so that this doesn't repeat itself.

I'm sure your list of parts is going to evolve once the burnt and melted stuff starts being taken off.  I'll provide whatever I can.

Oh, and I assume you're not going to bother getting insurance involved with this... that would probably be more of a headache than anything else.
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: priya on September 15, 2010, 12:58:05 PM
If you can get the car, or at least as much sheet metal as  you can inside a garage right away.  Burned metal rusts very fast and badly if it gets wet.  If not, consider spraying the burned areas with oil although that is a much less desirable option as any oil on the metal when it comes time to paint will ruin the paint job - it must be thoroughly, thoroughly cleaned off prior to starting paint prep.
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: alaskadad on September 15, 2010, 02:13:41 PM
Man, that is a bummer! be glad it was an older mostly metal car, My 2005 neon went up in smoke due to a pinhole in the fuel line spraying gas on the exhaust and that son of a gun burnt so fast it was amazing

About a minute from ignition we had used up all the extinguishers at work but couldn't get the plastic to stop burning.
(http://img40.imagefra.me/img/img40/7/9/15/rentalman/f_rp548plm_c3ae508.jpg) (http://imagefra.me/)

Fire department was just around the corner and conveniently training so it it only took 3 minutes to respond.
(http://img37.imagefra.me/img/img37/7/9/15/rentalman/f_rp548qjm_7da6f32.jpg) (http://imagefra.me/)

Here you have it; after about 4 minutes of being on fire it was way gone.
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Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: IowaEagle on September 15, 2010, 02:16:02 PM
I am thinking a leaking fuel line into the carb.
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: JSK on September 15, 2010, 03:38:09 PM
Awwwwwwww how tragic!!! Best of luck to you with the rebuild, and I'll be monitoring as well to see if I can help with any parts.
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: Mavericke on September 16, 2010, 10:52:25 PM
Quote from: IowaEagle on September 15, 2010, 02:16:02 PM
I am thinking a leaking fuel line into the carb.

That's what caused the fire on the Dodge
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: thereverendbill on September 16, 2010, 11:10:41 PM
Quote from: alaskadad on September 15, 2010, 02:13:41 PM
About a minute from ignition we had used up all the extinguishers at work but couldn't get the plastic to stop burning.
(http://img40.imagefra.me/img/img40/7/9/15/rentalman/f_rp548plm_c3ae508.jpg) (http://imagefra.me/)

lol the front plate says it all "parts", sorry to laugh alaskadad but the irony is just too funny
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: DAVE on September 17, 2010, 09:19:20 AM
i need some opinions first i suspect there was some sort of gas leak which turned to vapor and then finally at ignition there were enough vapors to cause an explosion, now the opinions that i need are what do you think might be bad and what might be good I'm thinking that most of the engine components are toast, the carburetor is bad and i am thinking that the power steering pump,alternator, and maybe the starter are bad, the fuel pump is gone was new, probably the ac compressor there are no brakes so the master cylinder, new and probably the vacuum diaphragm, i hope the radiator is good some paint burned off of it, also new, wiper motor, all the wiring is gone with all the relays,battery is gone starter solenoid also. so what do you think might be good and what else might need replaced?
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: priya on September 17, 2010, 07:35:25 PM
You didn't say what year your Eagle was, but if you need it my husband can get wiring diagrams for 83-88 and I think 81 and possibly a general eagle/concord/other wiring diagram for 82.
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: eagle87 on September 17, 2010, 10:56:04 PM
I see your car has a/c and that you mention there was an explosion, you didnt happen to have the a/c filled with something like redtek?
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: DAVE on September 17, 2010, 11:57:33 PM
no i didn't have redtek or anything like that in it just R134, the year is 85' does anyone know if you can use the engine compartment wiring harness from a cherokee i am thinking of doing the 4.0 swap get a beatup cherokee, cheap to use as the donor
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: DAVE on September 18, 2010, 10:50:24 PM
here is a partial list of things that are needed radiator shroud,2 vacuum canisters,radiator overflow tank,windshield washer tank,charcoal canister,engine compartment wiring harness including relays,heater control valve, ac hoses, ac compressor
Thanks
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: eagle87 on September 18, 2010, 11:41:52 PM
I believe the wiring harness must be from a 1984-1987 eagle, unless you want to do some hacking and make a harness work.
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: IRON HORSE on September 18, 2010, 11:52:05 PM
             Hello Dave, 

      I have the radiator shroud,2 vacuum canisters ... plastic balls or cans ?? I know I have the can type ....,radiator overflow tank,windshield washer tank,charcoal canister,heater control valve that I can send you right away. Also the triple valve assy if your system was working.... I may even have a loose wire harness but will have to check it may be from a hornet. Give me acouple day to round it up ... but I will need an address.

                                                                                                               Regards, Iron Horse
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: IRON HORSE on September 19, 2010, 12:06:58 AM
Dave,           I took a look at the picts .... CANS it is. ;D               Iron Horse
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: IowaEagle on September 19, 2010, 02:09:13 PM
I have a new fuel pump.  Its yours for shipping.
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: IRON HORSE on September 20, 2010, 11:47:11 AM
Hello Dave,

              I got your email .... I've got everything rounded up .... just need to pack it, should ship tomorrow ( Tues.)  there is no charge, just from one Eagle owner to another, no strings. I wouldn't be using these parts in my lifetime, or whats left of it.  I still need to find the wiring harness and do some ohm checking, but if it doesn't have the firewall feedthru for the computer I'll know right away it's a Hornet harness. 

                                                                                                      Regards, Iron Horse
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: thereverendbill on September 20, 2010, 05:47:02 PM
Quote from: IRON HORSE on September 20, 2010, 11:47:11 AM
Hello Dave,

              I got your email .... I've got everything rounded up .... just need to pack it, should ship tomorrow ( Tues.)  there is no charge, just from one Eagle owner to another, no strings. I wouldn't be using these parts in my lifetime, or whats left of it.  I still need to find the wiring harness and do some ohm checking, but if it doesn't have the firewall feedthru for the computer I'll know right away it's a Hornet harness. 

                                                                                                      Regards, Iron Horse

this is what i love about this site and the owners who occupy it, 3 eggs to you iron horse
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: IowaEagle on September 20, 2010, 05:47:53 PM
New fuel pump is on its way too.
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: Sævar Örn on September 20, 2010, 05:50:45 PM
Amazed by helpfulness of fellow Eaglers :o
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: Desolo on September 20, 2010, 06:08:38 PM
Sounds like your car will be right as rain sooner then you thought  ;) I swear, seeing what the people on this site do for each other makes me smile.... I wish I could help myself  :(
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: apes17 on September 20, 2010, 07:58:33 PM
I just want to thank all of you for helping my dad and me out with this. It means a lot to us. It means a lot to me.

This Eagle was my first car, purchased it myself, and it's my prized mode of transportation. It feels like I've had it way longer than just 3 years.

For those that are up for helping us out, go ahead and contact my dad (username DAVE, if you didn't already know) because he knows way more than I do about that kind of stuff.

Thank you so much, everyone!!! :) :) :)
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: 83Eagle! on September 20, 2010, 08:26:18 PM
Love to see Eagle Owners pooling together to help fellow Eagle owners.  I would contribute something, but I don't have any spare parts anymore.
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: IRON HORSE on September 20, 2010, 08:43:34 PM
Hello apes17 & Dave,

   I found some other things you might need that I'll include in the pack up.  I got an ignition module, complete distributor assy., and noticed you need hood hinges too, and acouple asst. relays. Package will go out UPS tomorrow, will foward you the tracking number.

                                                                  Regards, Iron Horse

           P.S. Thanks guys for the eggs ... think I'll make an omlet ;D
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: txjeeptx on September 20, 2010, 10:14:07 PM
Glad you got it put out before it got to the interior, and that it wasn't out somewhere on the road or somewhere remote.

Looking at the picture of the outside of the hood, thinking forensically, the burns are stronger on the passenger side of the hood, indicating that the fire may have had more time burning over on that side. You say you had recently replaced the fuel pump. The hard line fitting leading out of it may have been a leak source. Also suspect that the boom you heard might have been an overcharged battery going off, starting the fire. How long before the fire was the car last run? If it was still hot from a trip around town, it could have started anywhere(carb dripping fuel from stuck float-onto a hot exhaust, valvecover oil leak on exhaust, trans ATF leak on exhaust), but if it had some time to cool, but the battery was overcharged, it could have taken some time to short out and result in the boom. I guess what I'm asking is, does the battery look just melted, or does it look like it blew out a side or something? Whatever caused the fire, evidence of it might have been destroyed in the fire's burn time, and it'll probably get replaced in the rebuild. I like your idea of buying a cheap XJ and just doing a complete fuel system swap(possible engine swap, trans swap, rear axle swap?). Yes, burned automotive sheet metal rusts fast, and it also has lost some of its structural integrity(annealed). You might want to get another hood to start fresh with.

I had a fuel pump fail on one of my past Jeeps with the 4.2, and it sent a dribble of fuel down the block along the distributor boss. I stopped to investigate the fuel smell and noticed the fuel-soaked passenger side of the engine, and knew I was in for a hike. In the days before cell phones, I walked a few miles to call home, back when that only cost a dime. I got lucky with that one.
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: tougeagle on September 20, 2010, 11:34:57 PM
That's the way Caroline is. She wouldn't let me get her through emissions or let me drive her too far without hiccups until i had everything in place and working properly. Every single possible corner I cut came back to bite me in the butt, and I had to step back and look at 'er and go "alright, fine, you win, I'll get you done right and the way you need to be". She still runs pretty lean, but no shavings and no knocking........
Quote from: apes17 on September 14, 2010, 11:50:30 PM
Quote from: Mavericke on September 14, 2010, 11:47:14 PM
Whew... I was really worried at first. I mean, she looks bad... but man, it could have been so much worse. You actually got off pretty good. All your plastic still looks good, you still have bumper caps, interior survived...

You just need some upper engine work, a wiring harness, hoses, and paint that hood... and of course you need to figure out what caused it...

...but considering what could have happened... be happy bro. Your Eagle will fly again! Stay focused. Now you can rebuild her... make her stronger... faster... more agile... then it... it wil be alive! ALIVE!!! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *hiccup*

Sorry, I get carried away sometimes...

Oh I know it'd could've been much much worse! My mom was like "What if you were in it when it happened?!" I just kept staring at the particles melting off in flames and wanting the firemen to put it out much much faster so it would salvage more. It was so distressing though. I'm just at a loss of words.

The grills is pretty much shot but I think I have a spare, but danget I just painted that one along with the headlight frames...:<

My dad's working on getting my Kammback up and going so I can get to and from school. Who knows how long this rebuild will take...a lot of money that I don't have right now. My dad was like "Maybe it's a sign that we need to perfect it before you drive it, you know, lift it more like you wanted and such." All I could do was stare at him. Haha.
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: apes17 on September 21, 2010, 01:32:18 AM
Quote from: txjeeptx on September 20, 2010, 10:14:07 PM
Glad you got it put out before it got to the interior, and that it wasn't out somewhere on the road or somewhere remote.

Looking at the picture of the outside of the hood, thinking forensically, the burns are stronger on the passenger side of the hood, indicating that the fire may have had more time burning over on that side. You say you had recently replaced the fuel pump. The hard line fitting leading out of it may have been a leak source. Also suspect that the boom you heard might have been an overcharged battery going off, starting the fire. How long before the fire was the car last run? If it was still hot from a trip around town, it could have started anywhere(carb dripping fuel from stuck float-onto a hot exhaust, valvecover oil leak on exhaust, trans ATF leak on exhaust), but if it had some time to cool, but the battery was overcharged, it could have taken some time to short out and result in the boom. I guess what I'm asking is, does the battery look just melted, or does it look like it blew out a side or something?

You might want to get another hood to start fresh with.


(I broke down the quote a bit so I could answer accordingly) :)

It hadn't been five minutes since it was last running. I got home from school, which is about a fifteen minute drive back home from downtown Portland and I went inside to get into my pajamas (haha) and like I said, it wasn't five minutes later that I heard the big BAM!

The battery looks (at least to me, not sure what my dad thinks) like a big hardened ball of black foam.

I'm thinking a new hood is in need as well. At first my dad said "all it needs is to be sanded down..." but then he looked at it again, "well, maybe a hood."

I'm so glad the interior is fine save for the smell. As soon as the firemen opened the front door and pointed the hose I was like "PLEASE NO!" in my head. The only damage done to the inside was a public library book that got covered in hose matter that was sitting on the passenger side floorboard where the foam must've seeped through from the front. I'm trying to dry it out so I don't have to pay for it.
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: 68AMXGOPAC on September 21, 2010, 07:55:44 AM
 I have a power bulge hood off an 82 SX/4 , but I think shipping would be the killer, as I am out on the east coast,if you get stuck for one let me know, any wiring I have would of been off the same car.
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: DAVE on September 21, 2010, 09:17:22 AM
I want to thank all of you for the help that you have given us there is no way that i can express tha gratitude that i have for all of you that are helping with parts and moral support
Thanks DAVE
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: IowaEagle on September 21, 2010, 09:57:46 AM
It sure is great to see the response so far.  I have a hood with some slight damage too, but again, getting it to you would be counterproductive to trying to save you folks some money.

I should mention, the fuel pump I am sending you came from Mavericke to me as a "grab bag" goodie from the meet.  It is new in the box and was part of the treasure trove of parts Mavericke received in the cars from EagleGrouch.  So it has passed thru a few hands starting in NY and making its way out to Oregon.
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: IRON HORSE on September 21, 2010, 12:20:29 PM
Hello Dave  & apes17,

         The package went out today about 10:00 AM, I'll email you with the tracking number.

                                                                                                Enjoy, Iron Horse :)
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: priya on September 21, 2010, 12:37:23 PM
So, who's car is this, Dave's or Apes17's?  Or are they the same person?
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: 68AMXGOPAC on September 21, 2010, 12:50:03 PM
It is Apes17 , Dave is her Dad. 
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: IowaEagle on September 21, 2010, 03:19:35 PM
Fuel pump mailed priority mail, today.
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: apes17 on September 21, 2010, 11:11:29 PM
I can't thank everyone enough for just sending stuff to us. Seriously! Thank you! You didn't have to do that but you are such kind people that you did!

Priya, I am April (or Apes17) and it is my car. My dad is DAVE. He has his own Eagle. Heheheh. :)

Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: IowaEagle on September 22, 2010, 09:00:59 AM
Just let us know what else you need as repairs are made.
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: apes17 on September 25, 2010, 06:41:09 PM
Thank you so much for sending things to us!! We got a huge package from Iron Horse today and it was like Christmas!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: IowaEagle on September 25, 2010, 09:28:28 PM
It might fit inside of a wagon.  I put one in the back of our Cherokee without any problem and they are about the same size in the cargo area.  Mine does have that damage in the left front corner, but is probably easily repaired.

Did the fuel pump arrive yet?
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: DAVE on September 27, 2010, 05:38:48 PM
yes it did thank you very much haven't had a chance to do anything to it yet still working on getting the kammback road worthy and licensed
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: 83Eagle! on September 28, 2010, 07:50:55 PM
You should be able to fit a hood in the back of an Eagle.  I love how people are joining together to help out.  It is really cool.
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: IRON HORSE on September 30, 2010, 10:45:25 AM
Hello Dave and apes17,

   Wondering if the pkg arrived intact  ::)??? was heavy and I was limited on packing materials.  From the response I've seen here you'll have no trouble getting your Eagle back one the road. .... I've been on travel all this week, but have not forgotten about the harness. I'll let you know what I find ....
                                                                                             Later, Iron Horse :)
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: DAVE on September 30, 2010, 03:01:05 PM
yes the package arrived intact thanks for every thing Iron horse, as far as a hood goes i do need one but at this point it is cosmetic and would not want to have one hauled or shipped clear out to the northwest i will wait on that until i can find one locally.
thanks DAVE
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: thereverendbill on September 30, 2010, 04:21:19 PM
Quote from: DAVE on September 30, 2010, 03:01:05 PM
yes the package arrived intact thanks for every thing Iron horse, as far as a hood goes i do need one but at this point it is cosmetic and would not want to have one hauled or shipped clear out to the northwest i will wait on that until i can find one locally.
thanks DAVE
I added in the how to section on how to repair/remove the skin on the factory power bulge hoods, it is super easy to do.  That is if you have some cosmetic problems with your hood besides the crispy paint ;D
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: apes17 on October 05, 2010, 08:54:24 PM
For everyone that has asked so far, YES, your packages have arrived! Thank you SO much everyone. I can't even begin to say how thankful I am for you kind souls willing to do what you have.

I'm sorry for the delay in responses, I've been busy with work and school.

Again, thank you so much everyone! Even those who give verbal support are most helpful!!!
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: IowaEagle on October 06, 2010, 08:34:48 PM
What else do you need?
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: apes17 on October 06, 2010, 08:50:41 PM
My dad and I will have to compile a new list after we sort through all the sent inventory.

Until that's posted, know that we're so grateful for all everyone has done!!
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: IowaEagle on October 06, 2010, 08:55:17 PM
OK -- we will keep monitoring.
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: IRON HORSE on November 12, 2010, 03:38:50 PM
Hello,

   I wanted to follow up on the wire harness, I did find it .... it turned out to be from a 1977 Hornet with many of the connectors  :( cut off. Sorry I couldn't help ya there, keep us posted on the repair, and again; good luck.

                                                                                                                      Regards, IRON HORSE
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: AMCKen on November 21, 2010, 12:34:14 AM
Time for that 4.0 or 4.6. : )
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: eagle503 on November 21, 2010, 12:47:17 PM
I know its not much but if you make it to the coast I have a couple of valve cover mounting kits and a plastic valve cover for you.
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: apes17 on November 22, 2010, 01:41:28 AM
Where at on the Coast?
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: apes17 on November 22, 2010, 01:42:22 AM
Quote from: IRON HORSE on November 12, 2010, 03:38:50 PM
Hello,

   I wanted to follow up on the wire harness, I did find it .... it turned out to be from a 1977 Hornet with many of the connectors  :( cut off. Sorry I couldn't help ya there, keep us posted on the repair, and again; good luck.

                                                                                                                      Regards, IRON HORSE


That's okay! You've helped so much already. I'm so grateful for everyone on this community!
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: eagle503 on November 22, 2010, 11:40:34 AM
Quote from: apes17 on November 22, 2010, 01:41:28 AM
Where at on the Coast?
I am in seaside.not to far away.
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: funkmasterlando on December 07, 2010, 10:39:48 PM
absolutely impressed. I was only thinking of this website as a resource for information, but no, its a community. never on any forum have i seen people band together to help a total stranger. dont know what seperates you from other people, but you eagle people, are good people. keep up the good work guys, i look forward to being a member of your community.
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: dustybat13 on December 08, 2010, 02:52:00 AM
I agree, it is very cool to see how enthusiastic the members are here. You can tell that they truly care about each other. And I don't even have an Eagle... Yet!
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: IowaEagle on December 08, 2010, 06:30:35 AM
If we don't look out for each other, then who will?
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: 83Eagle! on December 08, 2010, 08:03:41 AM
Quote from: IowaEagle on December 08, 2010, 06:30:35 AM
If we don't look out for each other, then who will?

Agreed
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: IRON HORSE on May 18, 2011, 01:01:23 AM
Hello Apes 17 & Dave,

    I just had to bring this post back to the top .... for a possible update .... also wondered if you had found a wire harness yet, let me know if you still need one ???  I've been slowly removing a harness from an 87 wagon as I get ready to pull the engine. I don't get much time for projects at home, probably take a couple more nice weekends.

                                                                             Regards, Iron Horse ;D


                                                     
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: DAVE on May 18, 2011, 10:18:02 AM
yes as a matter of fact i do need the wiring harness still, have not been able to find one yet, i have been collecting quite a few parts and am waiting for the nice weekends to get started, i have all i need for the headlight assemblies except for the adjusters and i have a hood, I've bought new belts and hoses and have gotten alot of small stuff for under the hood, i will still need a master cylinder but don't know about the booster, will need new power steering hoses, ac hoses, valve cover. and probably need a new ac compressor, not too worried about that right now. i have a carb, and air filter.
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: IRON HORSE on May 19, 2011, 12:47:00 AM
Hi Dave,

  OK, when I get it out ... it's yours, I still have your address... and will give you a heads up when I get ready to ship.

                          Thanks for the update and best of luck with it ............ Iron Horse ;D
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: DAVE on May 19, 2011, 09:11:14 AM
alright sounds great thanks alot for everything you have done for me and continue to do
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: IRON HORSE on June 26, 2011, 03:28:53 PM
Hello Dave & Apes 17,

   I finally got the wire harness pulled ... I'll label the connectors so you have an idea where they all go. I took my time takin' it out so it's in pretty good shape ...  except I noticed to previous owner had modified the ignition module  connectors so he could use a carb without the servo ( weber ) so you may have to return it to original.... but I've seen that posted so should not be a problem to change back. Give me a couple days .... I'll send it to the address listed on your email ... unless I hear otherwise.

                                                                                 Regards, Iron Horse ;D


added pict...........

(http://i351.photobucket.com/albums/q442/IRONHOURSE/Eagle%20Mics%20Picts/DSCI0150.jpg)
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: rollguy on June 26, 2011, 04:57:23 PM
I just found this thread, and could have given you a hood if I had seen it sooner.   I have a good hood the same color.   If the one you have does not work out, you can have mine for free.   However, it is in So. Cal, so it may be cost prohibitive.  I have a few other parts as well.  Let me know what you still need, and maybe I have it (I would have to dig deep in my shed).
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: eagle503 on June 26, 2011, 09:29:46 PM
I still have an old dirty plastic valve cover out hear on the coast with a gasket kit for it.
I took off my carter BBD carb and put on a motorcraft 2150 so I have all the emissions stuff two. Actually I have two carter bbd set ups one is almost new.
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: DAVE on June 28, 2011, 09:32:17 AM
Eagle503,
  yes i would be interested in the valve cover, let me know.
as far as what i still need throttle cable,vacuum booster(brake),oil & transmission dip sticks and tubes,AC hoses and compressor,heater motor,hood light,water temp & oil senders,cto, thats all i can think of right now i'll know more as I get farther have gotten the hood and hinges pulled,painted the replacements(rattle can) pulled the wiring harness what's left of it, got the heater motor and wiper motor pulled,treated all the rust.
Dave
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: GRONK on June 28, 2011, 10:18:41 AM
If you are going back to all factory w/ the emissions controls and such let me know.  I have cases of parts pulled from Eagles, vac canisters, directional valves, T's, solenoids, etc....
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: DAVE on June 28, 2011, 12:02:10 PM
no emissions except for charcoal canister,egr and cat.
thanks for the offer and i may need something later i will keep you in mind if i do
Dave
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: IRON HORSE on June 30, 2011, 10:29:20 PM
Hello again Dave & Apes17,


Wire harness on the way ... sent an email ... let me know about the wiring diagrams.


                                              Regards, Iron Horse ;D
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: IRON HORSE on May 14, 2012, 05:15:38 PM
Hello Dave,

   Wondered how the project was goin'  ........ do ya have any picts ??

                                                 Iron Horse  ;D
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: Mavericke on May 30, 2012, 04:36:28 PM
How's the project going?
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: DAVE on May 31, 2012, 09:31:04 AM
no pics right now i am off for a week here in about 3 weeks and have lots of car projects planned,
hope to get the sx/4 licensed, work on the wagon, and also the kamback, lately have just been scrounging at u-pull-it's for needed parts, when i am off of work. I'll get some pics going on all three at that time.
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: apes17 on July 03, 2012, 10:45:37 PM
We've got a new hood! :)

Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: IRON HORSE on May 23, 2014, 10:33:58 AM
Hello,

      It's been awhile ...how are the repairs going ...any picts ??????  What really bothers me about this, is two years without any update. I for one spent a lot of time and some money to help a fellow Eagle owner out, and I wasn't the only one. I provided what I could to help, I wanted nothing in return  .. but excepted to see some / any progress with regards to the repairs of the Eagle. It's discouraging ....................
                                                                                                                 IRON HORSE
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: mojobean on June 25, 2014, 10:36:23 PM
It can be discouraging, yes, but in all fairness.. sometimes time flies by and you don't realize how quickly. Especially when it comes to trying to get your cars back up and running.
I'm sure he will post some when he can.

I've had numerous projects (i.e.: daily drivers down for some reason or nuther) that sat for over a year while i tried to "find the time" to work on them due to the constraints of daily life.
Title: Re: There's been a casualty.
Post by: carnuck on June 26, 2014, 12:31:39 AM
It looks like oil from a valve cover leak caught fire.