I can't find/purchase Front Springs

[Evenprime]

So I've been searching for front springs for my 1984 AMC Eagle.

The only site I have found is AMCLIVES but when I price it out, it goes from $434 USD = $614 CAD (Im in Canada = ouch)
but when I put it in the cart it comes out to $2,434. I assume this has something to do with the shipping to Canada.

Anyway, I reached out to a local company Vancouver Axle and Springs, and they said they cannot make them unless I bring mine in so they can inspect and 'may' be able to make them.

Why is this so difficult?

I have a broken spring, and I'm replacing the entire suspension but trying to stay as stock as possible but I cannot for the life of me find someone who can get me a set of springs.

I seen the KennedyAmerican site but it looks shady. Has anyone had luck with them?

I'm expecting to pay a pretty penny for this, especially considering the import fees to bring them into Canada, but honestly at this point I just want a set, but $2400 is crazy

[Ludworks]

I hate to say it, but you won't find them anywhere. As far as I've been able to determine, no one ever reproduced Eagle coil springs en masse. Your best option is to find someone parting out an Eagle, or keep looking for a company to reproduce them.

I'll dig into this and see if I can find a vendor. I'd like to have them available at the store in the future anyways.

Let me also add that the picture you attached says they're being dropshipped, i.e. marked up for no reason; and the picture is wrong. Eagle springs don't look like that. The coil spacing is different.

[Still Pat]

I seem to recall reading Javelin springs will fit. Something about using A/C or V-8 springs for a lift?? My memory likes o lie to me - A LOT, so I'd double check that first.

[89 MJ]

I have read that springs for a 71 Javelin with a 401 work, but lift it about 2.5” from stock worn out springs. Espo Springs n Things also made Eagle springs, but I’m not sure if they still do. They were a direct reproduction.

[vangremlin]

Contact Espo Springs & Things and Eaton Detroit Springs.  I think one of those will be able to help you out.  Good luck!

[Taylor]

Contact Espo Springs & Things and Eaton Detroit Springs.  I think one of those will be able to help you out.  Good luck!

That’s where I got my front and rear springs. It was about 14 years ago. Hopefully they still carry them. They included rear bushings.

[vangremlin]

Also, Kennedy American is a well known and respected AMC vendor.  I have purchased from them several times.

[Evenprime]

Thanks everyone for the replies.

When I reached out to a local company, Vancouver Axle and Frame they said they need me to bring in a spring.

They mentioned they cannot find the information they require but they might be able to do it once they get one. Is this a decent idea? I was hoping to have them before I start doing any work.

Does anyone have the information/specs on the coils that a company who makes them would require?

Looking at their custom order form, the information they would be looking for is:

Outside diameter +/-
Inside diameter +/-
Maximum solid height
direction of helix
type of ends
Free Length +/-
Wire diameter?
Number of active coils
Total number of coils
type of material
finish
squareness (Free): within
End Use or Application
Other
Quantity Required

Also, thanks for the note on KennedyAmerica - I'll reach out and ask them.

I thought I reached out before but I am pretty sure Espo Springs told me a year back and they said they no longer supplied them. I' cant find that in my email though so maybe I'll ask again.

Eaton Springs mentioned this to me, when i asked about making both front coil springs and rear leafs. "Thank you for your inquiry. We can make the rear springs for you, but even with over 2,000 coil spring specs we do not have them for the ones on the front of your car."

Sigh -

[Ludworks]

I think it's a good idea. It's annoying to have to bring it in, but then they can make you an exact duplicate without guesswork.

Here's the measurements from one of mine. 1985 Wagon. Manual trans. 4.2. With A/C and CA emissions. I've rounded to fractional sizes when in doubt.
OD: 6 1/4"
ID: 5" General. Top narrows down to 3 1/2" for last coil, which is flat (coil is round, just wound in a flat plane)
Maximum solid height: Estimated 3 3/4" - 4". Not really applicable in this application.
Direction of helix: Righthand.
Type of ends: Top is closed. Bottom is open.
Free length: 15"
Wire diameter: Actual .64, probably spec'd at 5/8" - Edit: probably 41/64"
Number of active coils: 6, or possibly 7. Depends on what you consider "active".
Total number of coils: 7
Type of material: Spring steel. Alloy unknown.
Finish: Unknown. Paint or plain most likely.
Squareness (free): Top coil is square. Bottom coil is not.
End use or application: Automotive

Hope this helps. If in doubt have them make a longer spring and then chop the bottom end down to where you need it.

[Trooper]

https://amceaglesden.com/guide/Shocks_%26_Springs

[Ludworks]

Trooper,

Great link. I've seen that table before, and it's a good starting point for replacements. But I don't think it's right.

Unless both of my coil springs were changed out at some point, which I highly doubt, the "Concord" dimensions aren't accurate. My wire diameter is .640" or 41/64" (with a coat of paint), not .687" or .656". Just measured both springs again in a dozen places. Also free height is actually slightly longer than 15". Hard to believe after nearly 40 years in use and 200,000 miles they didn't compress but instead elongated.

Probably perfectly fine to use those reference numbers to get replacements, but the MOOG catalogs I could dig up show those springs fitting everything except Eagles. Hornets, Gremlins, Concords, Matadors, Spirits...but not Eagles.

[AMC of Houston]

Trouble is that there are way too many different springs for an aftermarket company to list just one for a particular year and model of car.   The factory parts manual lists 10 different front springs for the Eagle, depending on the particular car's options.  Back at the AMC dealer, one had to get the code off of a tag on the spring in order to match up with a new one (was a 2-digit code; BA thru BK - no BI code).   Good luck figuring it out.

[Ludworks]

AMC of Houston,

10!? That's worse than I thought.

You don't happen to have any more information for those B_ codes do you? There's reference to a "Suspension spring selector guide" in MR251 but I can't find any trace of it.

[maddog]

The driver side spring for Eagle Eyes has a tag wrapped around one of the spring coils.

[AMC of Houston]

Afraid I also have never actually laid eyes on that mystical Sprint Selector Guide either!   I have tons of AMC manuals and parts books; but that's not one of them.   I take it your springs are missing the tag?