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Re: Engine Ideas
« Reply #45 on: November 25, 2014, 02:34:01 AM »
I dug up the Nissan SD33 std bellhousing (to T19 from my collection)
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Re: Engine Ideas
« Reply #46 on: November 25, 2014, 09:51:26 PM »
I need that. Do you have the both halves, the ring by the starter as well as the bell down to the trans?
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Re: Engine Ideas
« Reply #47 on: November 26, 2014, 11:57:45 AM »
I only have the bell to the trans and clutch linkage. Well that and a valve cover and intake manifold. I think the bell is an SAE #5 size. It's a bit smaller than the one I had for a Chrysler 383 RB truck motor to Allison automatic.
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Re: Engine Ideas
« Reply #48 on: November 29, 2014, 08:03:03 AM »
 I appreciate that Carnuck has the parts you need but maybe you guys can talk about it via PM instead of in this thread to keep it relevant. Thanks.
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Re: Engine Ideas
« Reply #49 on: November 29, 2014, 02:06:21 PM »
On a related to thread note, I found a Nissan diesel pickup with SD22 4 cyl and 5 speed for $750 locally. That would be great for an SX4 swap. Too bad I can't score an LD28 autotrans from a 84/85 Maxima wagon (they used AW4 2 years only with O/D but most are Jatco) or this would be the new drivetrain for SOTE.
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Re: Engine Ideas
« Reply #50 on: November 30, 2014, 01:37:22 PM »
Found the perfect swap for a wagon (sort of) An '82 Nissan Rear wheel drive Maxima (aka 810) 2.8L inline 6 diesel with O/D auto. I just can't tell if it's the Jatco or AW4 (they used both till '84 when the wagons went front wheel drive for '85) I had one with the AW4 on a gas motor. I could have swapped the flexplate, converter and bell with a Jeep AW4 to make it practically a bolt in setup. It even had a remote trans controller like Jeep, but under the hood so it was sealed.
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Re: Engine Ideas
« Reply #51 on: November 30, 2014, 05:43:24 PM »
I've searched a bit and found this company http://www.mercedesdiesel4x4.com/ that makes Mercedes Turbo-Diesel conversions for various vehicles. They have jeep kits for putting the Mercedes engine in front of various jeep transmission. All the rest of the stuff (mounts and in our case oil pans) would have to be figured out but an interesting idea.
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Re: Engine Ideas
« Reply #52 on: November 30, 2014, 11:50:08 PM »
123 HP and 181 ft/lbs isn't bad. 4400 RPM redline for the Mercedes motor.

The LD28 is 90 hp and 125 ft lbs torque with 4400 redline as well.

I don't know if the Mercedes adapter is cheap enough to make it worthwhile.  26 mpg with AW4 vs 35 with the Nissan motor.
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Re: Engine Ideas
« Reply #53 on: December 01, 2014, 01:01:23 AM »
123 HP and 181 ft/lbs isn't bad. 4400 RPM redline for the Mercedes motor.

The LD28 is 90 hp and 125 ft lbs torque with 4400 redline as well.

I don't know if the Mercedes adapter is cheap enough to make it worthwhile.  26 mpg with AW4 vs 35 with the Nissan motor.
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Re: Engine Ideas
« Reply #54 on: December 01, 2014, 04:53:09 PM »
All the Mercedes diesels with turbo around here they want $2500+ USED! For $1500 I get a whole Datsun with the diesel and AW4
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Re: Engine Ideas
« Reply #55 on: January 28, 2015, 02:28:22 PM »
I seen an ad by me, a guy selling an old Dussy inline 8 now that would be quite the swap..

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Re: Engine Ideas
« Reply #56 on: October 07, 2015, 09:08:01 PM »
This post is a bit dated but I've got to throw in that a supra 2jz (turbo'd of course) would be sweet!  It's an inline 6 and renowned for making big power and withstanding abuse!
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Re: Engine Ideas
« Reply #57 on: October 07, 2015, 10:09:00 PM »
This post is a bit dated but I've got to throw in that a nissan 2jz (turbo'd of course) would be sweet!  It's an inline 6 and renowned for making big power and withstanding abuse!
That was on my list also, but didn't make it on this thread for some reason. The car has a Ford 5.0l now, not exactly what I was going for in the beginning, but it's fun to drive. So someone else is going to have to it. A full Skyline swap with  AWD  would be cool, but rather expensive.
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Re: Engine Ideas
« Reply #58 on: October 09, 2015, 02:16:24 AM »
As amazing as LS engines are, I believe that the ford v8 has always been one of the greatest sounding engines and I know you've got to be enjoying it!  But I guess now I have to keep my eye out for a 2jz for mine....

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Re: Engine Ideas
« Reply #59 on: October 09, 2015, 09:09:16 AM »
As amazing as LS engines are, I believe that the ford v8 has always been one of the greatest sounding engines and I know you've got to be enjoying it!  But I guess now I have to keep my eye out for a 2jz for mine....

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