Diesel Eagle conversion

[vangremlin]

For those of you who have always wanted a diesel Eagle, I came across this ad on Craigslist for an outfit that specializes in swapping a 5 cylinder Mercedes diesel into Cherokees.  I don't know why this wouldn't work in an Eagle (other than that whole front drive train mounting issue lol).  Rollguy this has your name written all over it!

http://denver.craigslist.org/pts/4263916146.html

[Prafeston]

Wow, that's impressive!

[doneagle]

                    MAN    That is so cool I would love to have one of them ...I wonder how much $$$$$$.......don

[vangremlin]

                    MAN    That is so cool I would love to have one of them ...I wonder how much $$$$$$.......don

Probably figure on adding about 5 more $$$$$ 

[Monkeyjoe]

I thing there was a Diesel upgrade for Jeep just a couple of years ago.  If im not mistaken it was a Cummins 4Cyl. 

[eaglefreek]

You can buy the adapter to mate the Mercedes diesel to an AMC/Jeep transmission. You would have to figure out the mounts and what not. I've gone round and round with the idea of doing a diesel swap, but it just doesn't compute to me with the price of diesel being higher than gasoline.  http://www.mercedesdiesel4x4.com/category_s/1831.htm

I thing there was a Diesel upgrade for Jeep just a couple of years ago.  If im not mistaken it was a Cummins 4Cyl.

Are you talking about the Grand Cherokee and Liberty Diesel? If so, those are VM Motori diesels out of Italy.

[Monkeyjoe]

You can buy the adapter to mate the Mercedes diesel to an AMC/Jeep transmission. You would have to figure out the mounts and what not. I've gone round and round with the idea of doing a diesel swap, but it just doesn't compute to me with the price of diesel being higher than gasoline.  http://www.mercedesdiesel4x4.com/category_s/1831.htm

I thing there was a Diesel upgrade for Jeep just a couple of years ago.  If im not mistaken it was a Cummins 4Cyl.

Are you talking about the Grand Cherokee and Liberty Diesel? If so, those are VM Motori diesels out of Italy.

The idea came from Europe but no it was a JK Wrangler

[captspillane]

They extended the body to fit the motor. Good frickin' lord. I'll stick with my SD33T diesel conversion. It is the same size as an AMC 258 and the same basic specs. It would fit without all that fuss.

Anyone seen diesel motors converted to propane or natural gas? I'd really like to use the robust, high compression block with propane or gas. That would actually start without a cloud of smoke, ten minutes of glowplug time, and ten minutes of warm up time. Diesel is aggravating.

[Monkeyjoe]

They extended the body to fit the motor. Good frickin' lord. I'll stick with my SD33T diesel conversion. It is the same size as an AMC 258 and the same basic specs. It would fit without all that fuss.

Anyone seen diesel motors converted to propane or natural gas? I'd really like to use the robust, high compression block with propane or gas. That would actually start without a cloud of smoke, ten minutes of glowplug time, and ten minutes of warm up time. Diesel is aggravating.

Nope, they didn't,  It is the 4cyl Cummins,  check out this link
http://www.bruiserconversions.com/jeep-wrangler-diesel-conversion/

[captspillane]

The Nissan SD33T 3.3L turbodiesel is the stock motor in my 1980 Scout. I'm pulling it and putting in an AMC V8 for the Scout. I specifically bought a Turbodiesel Scout with a spare motor in order to put the engine in an Eagle.

AMC put the SD33T in several Jeep products between 1981 and 1985. It fits perfectly in place of a 4.2L, and it even looks very similar externally. It is what AMC would have likely chosen as a diesel for the Eagle if they offered it. The Turbodiesel Eagles are an outside company conversion, so those were different.

I actually started a project thread here on the Den if you want to see pictures and read more about the project.

http://forums.amceaglesden.com/index.php?topic=36383.0

[Monkeyjoe]

I have wanted to get my hands on one of the Diesel Scouts.  They are pretty rare.

[captspillane]

There were about 5 thousand non turbo SD33 Scouts sold '76 to '79 and about 5 thousand turbo SD33T Scouts sold late '79 and '80. There was also about 5K CJ10a towpigs sold to the military, both turbo and nonturbo. Overseas many thousands of CJ10 trucks and Nissan Patrol vehicles were sold. It is a very common engine in Australia especially, so rebuild kits will always be available just at import prices. The SD33 is also a common forklift motor here in the states, so a couple companies specialize in their parts. The Turbo block is identical to the nonturbo except for a special set of oiling holes for the pistons.

I'm sticking with only Turbo blocks, but realistically you can put a Mercedes turbo on a regular one and be okay. My Scout actually has a Mercedes turbo already on it for the extra pound of boost. It's a direct fit. I'm also curious if those holes can be added since the block is an industrial motor. When you rebuild it the entire sleeve pulls out around the piston. How cool is that?

In comparison there are 5K Eagle Kammbacks made, about half as many as diesel Scouts made. There have been about a dozen Kammbacks for sale this past year, and I own two, so thats really not that rare. Heck I found a guy near me with six SD33 Scouts he's collected from a local junkyard, another daily driven SD33T short Scout near me, and another guy with two CJ10a Jeeps for sale close by. If you look, you will find.

[eaglefreek]

Nope, they didn't,  It is the 4cyl Cummins,  check out this link
http://www.bruiserconversions.com/jeep-wrangler-diesel-conversion/

That's just an aftermarket company that does swaps. The OEM diesels are VM's and won't be available in Jk's,, if they will stilled be called that,  in the states in 2016. I don't know how those companies get passed the federal emission laws with those swaps. The Cummins 3.9L isn't EPA rated to be used in a modern light vehicle.

[rollguy]

You can buy the adapter to mate the Mercedes diesel to an AMC/Jeep transmission. You would have to figure out the mounts and what not. I've gone round and round with the idea of doing a diesel swap, but it just doesn't compute to me with the price of diesel being higher than gasoline.  http://www.mercedesdiesel4x4.com/category_s/1831.htm

I thing there was a Diesel upgrade for Jeep just a couple of years ago.  If im not mistaken it was a Cummins 4Cyl.

Are you talking about the Grand Cherokee and Liberty Diesel? If so, those are VM Motori diesels out of Italy.

I already have plans to do something similar. I already have the adapter from mercedesdiesel4x4.com, and an AX15 trans.  The plan is to use my SX4 frame, and put a 300D body on it. I have almost all the parts, but need to sell the engine and trans out of my SX4 (along with the newly painted SX4 body that I have), and then use what is left over for the 300D 4X4.   Yes I know it is not an Eagle, but the old thrashed Eagle will live on (sort of).   I would also love to do an MB Diesel conversion in someone's Eagle if I had the chance.   My opinion is that the OM617 5 cyl. Diesel engine is the best (and cheapest) conversion engine available.....Rich

[rollguy]

By the way, the engine in the first photo at: http://denver.craigslist.org/pts/4263916146.html is from a '98-'99 E300 and it is a 6 cyl Intercooled Turbodiesel (OM606).  That is why they extended the front fenders.  The OM617 (5 cyl) is shorter than an AMC 6 cyl, and will fit with room to spare in an Eagle.....Rich