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85 wagon Limited Slip

Started by 4hammond, December 09, 2013, 04:45:05 PM

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4hammond

can anyone offer a little help. I would like to add a limited slip to my stock rear axel. Is this possible?

IowaEagle

Not offered as they would ruin the viscous coupling in the transfer case.   Maybe the only one that could have been use was behind the NP 128, and then AMC would have had to matched the front differential gearing to that of the rear.
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Whuntmore

you could though if you changed out to a say, 242 T-case, matched gears and of course had the drive shaft altered.

4hammond

Sounds like it will take some work. I guess we will see how it handles in the snow this year and decide after that.

carnuck

Unless you are doing a ton of turning, it shouldn't affect the VC. Having a low range in mine (Tcase from an FSJ) allows me to do that. Trac Loc is pretty innocuous and should be fine. You have to apply the brake slightly with 1 rear tire spinning to get it to engage.
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AMC of Houston

OK; someone please 'splain to me how a limited slip diff (with the same gears) could affect the VC.   I just can't see it.   I've had limited slip in mine (a genuine AMC 15 unit)  for the last 13 years and loads of miles, and no problems.   Anyone??
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eaglefreek

Quote from: AMC of Houston on December 11, 2013, 08:20:33 PM
OK; someone please 'splain to me how a limited slip diff (with the same gears) could affect the VC.   I just can't see it.   I've had limited slip in mine (a genuine AMC 15 unit)  for the last 13 years and loads of miles, and no problems.   Anyone??
I was going to ask the same question.
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carnuck

If you have an '86 (or at least a NP128 case) it's a non-issue. It would only become an issue on really long excessive corners.... ie: Burnouts in a circle.
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Whuntmore

Ok, but if you swap out the t-case to say, a 242, then it's also a non-issue, right?

eaglefreek

Yes, it's a non issue with a 242, but I still don't see how it matters with the 129. The viscous coupler is for front to rear bias, why would it matter if there was a LSD in the rear?
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IowaEagle

I am not an engineer but there has to be a reason why AMC did not offer it.
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1985amceagle

I'm not sure how the 119 is designed, but it might have to do with how it has to drag a wheel on turns
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eaglefreek

Quote from: IowaEagle on December 14, 2013, 09:58:25 AM
I am not an engineer but there has to be a reason why AMC did not offer it.
I'm pretty sure LSD was an option on a NP229 equipped Grand Wagoneer with the tow package.
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IowaEagle

Quote from: eaglefreek on December 14, 2013, 05:51:58 PM
Quote from: IowaEagle on December 14, 2013, 09:58:25 AM
I am not an engineer but there has to be a reason why AMC did not offer it.
I'm pretty sure LSD was an option on a NP229 equipped Grand Wagoneer with the tow package.

I found no mention of LSD being offered in the AMC Standard Catalog.
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1982 Eagle SX/4 Sport;
1980 Concord DL;
1970 Ambassador 2 Dr HT, SST
2002 Hyundai Santa Fe;
2008 Jeep Patriot Sport - Freedom Drive II

eaglefreek

Quote from: IowaEagle on December 14, 2013, 06:23:37 PM
I found no mention of LSD being offered in the AMC Standard Catalog.

I venture over to the FSJ forum quite often and have seen it talked about once and a while. Here's a quote from a thread over there.

"Both of my '90 's have caution stickers in the glove box stating that "this car is equipped with a locking type differential at the rear wheels ....""
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=121725
1986 AMC Eagle Wagon 4.2L/4.0L head, AW4,NP242, Chrysler 8.25" rear.
1981 AMC Eagle Wagon As Seen On TV  Lost In Transmission




"I know he'd be a poorer man, if he never saw an eagle fly,
Rocky mountain high"  John Denver
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