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Water Temperature Sending Unit

Started by Kippnidaho, March 06, 2013, 08:17:06 PM

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Kippnidaho

My temperature guage is not working properly and it appears the sending unit is where the issue is.
My question is why is it so expensive? Any other unit is 10 - 25 bucks. I am finding the cheapest price online is 46 bucks. Is there something special about the unit. Can I use something else?
Sorry I am such a cheap skate. But hey every buck counts.
Thanks
Living in The Great Northwest
2011 SS Camaro Convertible
2008 Chrysler 300 C Hemi
2005 Dodge Ram Diesel 1 Ton Shortbed
1997 TJ Wrangler Sport
1983 Eagle SX/4 (The Beagle)
Can you say too much is never enough

eaglefreek

1986 AMC Eagle Wagon 4.2L/4.0L head, AW4,NP242, Chrysler 8.25" rear.
1981 AMC Eagle Wagon As Seen On TV  Lost In Transmission




"I know he'd be a poorer man, if he never saw an eagle fly,
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JayRamb

My temperature gauge runs cool. I don't know if it is the gauge itself or if it is the sending unit. I don't want to take the dash apart for I don't really think it is the gauge. Maybe the Sending Unit?!
Jayson H.
Best HWY Mileage of 87 Eagle:  26.2 MPG

Believer in AMSOIL & Seafoam
1987 Garnet Red Eagle Wagon: 70,500 miles
1967 Rambler Rebel 4 Door 290 V8 (original family car) Marina Aqua 142K miles
1985 Eagle Wagon in Autumn Brown 74,800 miles as my daily driver
SOLD 1984 Black Eagle Limited w/Tach & gauge cluster: 245,100 miles SOLD

Kippnidaho

My 83 SX/4 has the two wire sending unit. How would I rewire for the gauge style sending unit.
Living in The Great Northwest
2011 SS Camaro Convertible
2008 Chrysler 300 C Hemi
2005 Dodge Ram Diesel 1 Ton Shortbed
1997 TJ Wrangler Sport
1983 Eagle SX/4 (The Beagle)
Can you say too much is never enough

Amc1320

I have had dozens of AMC's never had one that showed the temp much above the "C" on the gauge

I think that's the normal range for these cars, if it gets to half way up I would know I had a problem

Rob
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84 Eagle Limited Wagon (driven everyday)
81 Eagle Kammback
81 Spirit (undergoing surgery)
83 Spirit (parts car giving it all to keep the rest going)
Manchester, TN

eaglefreek

Quote from: Vince on March 06, 2013, 09:46:45 PM
My 83 SX/4 has the two wire sending unit. How would I rewire for the gauge style sending unit.

You sure? The one for the gauge is located in the back of the cylinder head. Where the red circle is on this photo I snagged from the net. The two wire one is in the intake manifold and has nothing to do with the gauge.
1986 AMC Eagle Wagon 4.2L/4.0L head, AW4,NP242, Chrysler 8.25" rear.
1981 AMC Eagle Wagon As Seen On TV  Lost In Transmission




"I know he'd be a poorer man, if he never saw an eagle fly,
Rocky mountain high"  John Denver
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vangremlin

Quote from: JayRamb on March 06, 2013, 09:40:25 PM
My temperature gauge runs cool. I don't know if it is the gauge itself or if it is the sending unit. I don't want to take the dash apart for I don't really think it is the gauge. Maybe the Sending Unit?!

Like Amc1320 said, my runs cool also, barely above the C.  You can test the gauge by grounding the sending unit wire, the needle should go all the way to top if you do that.
1981 Kammback 258 - "Pepe"
1980 Coupe 258 - "Ginger
1972 Gremlin X 304
1978 Gremlin 4 cyl 121 - sold
1964 TBird 390 - sold

JayRamb

From my understanding the Temperature Sending Unit with the two wires on the manifold...registers with the computer then to the gauge as well. Am I wrong with this one?
Jayson H.
Best HWY Mileage of 87 Eagle:  26.2 MPG

Believer in AMSOIL & Seafoam
1987 Garnet Red Eagle Wagon: 70,500 miles
1967 Rambler Rebel 4 Door 290 V8 (original family car) Marina Aqua 142K miles
1985 Eagle Wagon in Autumn Brown 74,800 miles as my daily driver
SOLD 1984 Black Eagle Limited w/Tach & gauge cluster: 245,100 miles SOLD

carnuck

There is a resistor wire between the sender and the harness. I took mine out and got a more accurate reading
AMC/Jeep gauges are for amusement only. Any correlation between them and reality is purely coincidental!

eaglefreek

Quote from: JayRamb on March 06, 2013, 10:49:17 PM
Am I wrong with this one?
If you have a 258, yes you are mistaken. I removed the 2 wire one in the manifold along with the computer and my gauge works fine
If you have a 4 cyl. I have no idea.
1986 AMC Eagle Wagon 4.2L/4.0L head, AW4,NP242, Chrysler 8.25" rear.
1981 AMC Eagle Wagon As Seen On TV  Lost In Transmission




"I know he'd be a poorer man, if he never saw an eagle fly,
Rocky mountain high"  John Denver
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skuhler

You removed the one in the manifold?  Did you cross the wires or leave them open?  I've bypassed the computer using the ECM Test bypass, but my gauge on the dash reads C also. 

eaglefreek

Quote from: skuhler on May 20, 2014, 08:10:02 AM
You removed the one in the manifold?  Did you cross the wires or leave them open?  I've bypassed the computer using the ECM Test bypass, but my gauge on the dash reads C also.
I'm running a Motorcraft carb and  removed the computer and most of it's wiring.
1986 AMC Eagle Wagon 4.2L/4.0L head, AW4,NP242, Chrysler 8.25" rear.
1981 AMC Eagle Wagon As Seen On TV  Lost In Transmission




"I know he'd be a poorer man, if he never saw an eagle fly,
Rocky mountain high"  John Denver
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BenM

If the sender is accurate and the thermostat is accurate at 195º the gauge will run from the bottom of the green band to the middle of the green band. If you have a 180º or less thermostat your car will run cold. You could also have a bad thermostat.
NSS#47184

1987 AMC Eagle Sedan -- 1976 Pacer Coupe -- 1968 Pontiac Tempest Custom S -- 1940 Mercury (& a 2002 Jetta Turbodiesel, 5 spd., the Wife's Daily Driver)

carnuck

Try grounding the wire going tot he head behind the carb. If an aftermarket sensor is used, AMC used to add a short resistor wire to the line.
AMC/Jeep gauges are for amusement only. Any correlation between them and reality is purely coincidental!

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