News:

Putting FUN and FRIENDLINESS, FIRST into owning and learning about AMC small bodied cars, primarily Eagles, Spirits and Concords as well as vehicles built in AMC's Mexican subsidiary, VAM.

The AMC Eaglepedia can now be accessed using the buttons found below  This is a comprehensive ever growing archive of information, tips, diagrams, manuals, etc. for the AMC Eagle and other small bodied AMC cars. 

Also a button is now available for our Face Book Group page.


Welcome to the AMC Eagles Nest.  A new site under "old" management -- so welcome to your new home for everything related to AMC Eagles, Spirits and Concords along with opportunities to interact with other AMC'ers.  This site will soon be evolving to look different than it has and we will be incorporating new features we hope you will find useful, entertaining and expand your AMC horizons.

You can now promote your topics at your favorite social media site by clicking on the appropriate icon (top upper right of the page) while viewing the topic you wish to promote.

Main Menu

Monroe MA700 Max-Air vs. Monroe Sensa-Trac Coilovers

Started by Prafeston, February 27, 2012, 10:40:53 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Prafeston

I'm considering one of these two setups to boost the rear a bit. Was just curious if anyone had any insight into either option. There doesn't appear to be a whole lot of reviews out there.

What are the pros and cons for each system?

Monroe MA700 Max-Air Air Shocks
http://www.amazon.com/Monroe-MA700-Max-Air-Shock-Absorber/dp/B000C55SZK

Monroe 58510 Sensa-Trac Load Adjusting Shocks
http://www.amazon.com/Monroe-58510-Sensa-Trac-Adjusting-Absorber/dp/B000C59M5M

Thanks!

eaglefreek

I installed the coil overs on mine and it didn't lift the rear as much as I wanted. The air shocks will let you adjust the height.
1986 AMC Eagle Wagon 4.2L/4.0L head, AW4,NP242, Chrysler 8.25" rear.
1981 AMC Eagle Wagon As Seen On TV  Lost In Transmission




"I know he'd be a poorer man, if he never saw an eagle fly,
Rocky mountain high"  John Denver
Click for Fayetteville,TN Forecast" border="0" height="100" width="150

vangremlin

I installed the coil overs on mine also.  I think they raised it 1" to an 1-1/4".  I definitely need some new leaf springs.
1981 Kammback 258 - "Pepe"
1980 Coupe 258 - "Ginger
1972 Gremlin X 304
1978 Gremlin 4 cyl 121 - sold
1964 TBird 390 - sold

Prafeston

Quote from: vangremlin on February 27, 2012, 10:49:18 PM
I definitely need some new leaf springs.

That was my train of thought with the coilovers...I figured if they don't lift it as much as I wanted I could get an add-a-leaf or try to find some leafs off an XJ from a yard.

carnuck

AMC/Jeep gauges are for amusement only. Any correlation between them and reality is purely coincidental!

vangremlin

Quote from: Prafeston on February 27, 2012, 10:52:05 PM

That was my train of thought with the coilovers...I figured if they don't lift it as much as I wanted I could get an add-a-leaf or try to find some leafs off an XJ from a yard.

I'm going to go for some brand new leaf springs.  I'm going to have this car for a long time, I don't want put on something that's almost as tired as what's on there.
1981 Kammback 258 - "Pepe"
1980 Coupe 258 - "Ginger
1972 Gremlin X 304
1978 Gremlin 4 cyl 121 - sold
1964 TBird 390 - sold

Pat

In the "For what it's worth dept.", mine has helper springs on the rear. It is lifted by them, but rides rough.
1995 Jeep Cherokee "Bleep"



No pic here - BlackBird - My '86 AMC Eagle wagon

R.I.P Old Rusty - My '91 F150

Alcology


Bird-o-Prey

I installed the Sensa Trac coil overs in the front and back on my 84.  I don't believe that the coil overs are going to do much in the way of lift for the car.  Certainly nothing more than any new shock would give over tired old ones.  The coils come into play more when there is a heavier load in the car.  My old shocks would bottom out coming out of the driveway.  Since installing the Sensa Tracs, I have had over 1200lbs of scrap steel plus me in the car on trips to the recyclers.  The brakes are a might bit soft, but the new shocks with the coil over definitely boosted the total carrying capacity of the car.  With just me in the car the ride is a bit more bouncy (like a pick up truck).  Here is a pick of the coil overs in the front.


This is a close up of how I had to mount them to the control arm.  The hole spacing on the shock is a match for the hole spacing on the control arm.  I used 3/8" x 3 1/2" grade 8 bolts and flat steel body washers to take up the space.  I left a 1/4" gap below the shock and the control arm and I used the stock rubber washers as well.
No matter how bad YOU think it is ... it could always be WORSE!!

Bird-o-Prey

Stoopid Kompuuters!!!  Here are a couple of the pics I was trying for in the last post.



These are the back installed (from under the car).  The backs went in in about 1/2 hour.  The fronts took a couple of hours with tire removal and farting around and tire replacement.


I really can't comment on the air shocks, but I have heard good and bad about them.  No personal experience with them.

Cheers
No matter how bad YOU think it is ... it could always be WORSE!!

captspillane

Wow that's a great idea with the coilovers in the front. I like that alot. Its well worth eggs from me, thanks!

It looks like an XJ rear shock to have the right top and bottom on it. Do you remember which shock you used?
Currently Inspected and Insured as of Jan 2013:
-1985 Eagle Station Wagon 258 T5 Stickshift
-1980 Eagle Station Wagon 258 Auto Fuel-injected with GM TBI

Minor Repairs Underway:
-1982 Eagle SX4 258 T5
-1981 Kammback 2.5L Iron Duke T5

Restoration Efforts Near Completion:
-1982 SX4- 401 NV3550
-1983 SX4- 4.5 MPI NSG370 (6 Speed)

Restoration Efforts Underway:
-1985 SW- 4.0 MPI AX15
-1982 SX4- 4.0 AW4
-1981 SX4- SD33T NV4500 (Turbodiesel 5 speed)

Future Rescue Efforts- '85 Maroon SW, '87 Limited SW, '84 Limited SW, '87 4 door Sedan, '81 2 door Sedan, '88 White SW, '77 4 door Hornet, '74 2 door Hornet, '79 Spirit AMX, '81 Kammback.

RIP- Red '81 SX4, '84 4dr Sedan, '84 SW, '81 SW, '80 Spirit, '83 SW, '83 4dr Sedan

carnuck

The only problem with it is (and many people don't understand this) shocks are NOT for carrying loads (although the coil would make it seem like it is) but for returning vehicles to original ride height. It puts greater stress on the mounting points (the upper in the front and back tend to punch through after many heavy loads and rough roads and the studs on the bottom in the back will shear off) Been there, done that. Ruined perfectly good cars doing it.
AMC/Jeep gauges are for amusement only. Any correlation between them and reality is purely coincidental!

BenM

I did an add-a-leaf on the Eagle after new springs didn't give me back ride height. If I were to do it again, I'd have gotten a Cherokee pack and rebuilt the old spring pack. It's still low in the back.
NSS#47184

1987 AMC Eagle Sedan -- 1976 Pacer Coupe -- 1968 Pontiac Tempest Custom S -- 1940 Mercury (& a 2002 Jetta Turbodiesel, 5 spd., the Wife's Daily Driver)

standup650

I ran air shocks on a old s-10 i had they were great if you put a load in it and you filled them up to bring it back to level. when i gave them more air to lift it with out anything in the back they were stiff! bad stiff! and if i was ever to use them again i would go all out and get the self leaveling kit. it's a pain in the  :censored: to adjust them all the time and they are no good if the pressure isn't right.

bigdog56e

I used he air shocks on two Eagles, well satisified with them. I bought  a smallcompressor to air up tires, think I will mount it under the hood, plumb it to the air line on the shocks with a check valve in it.
                                                                                                        Eddie

SMF spam blocked by CleanTalk