News: Putting FUN and FRIENDLINESS, FIRST into owning and learning about AMC small bodied cars, primarily Eagles, Spirits and Concords as well as vehicles built in AMC's Mexican subsidiary, VAM.

The AMC Eaglepedia can now be accessed using the buttons found below  This is a comprehensive ever growing archive of information, tips, diagrams, manuals, etc. for the AMC Eagle and other small bodied AMC cars. 

Also a button is now available for our Face Book Group page.


Welcome to the AMC Eagles Nest.  A new site under "old" management -- so welcome to your new home for everything related to AMC Eagles, Spirits and Concords along with opportunities to interact with other AMC'ers.  This site will soon be evolving to look different than it has and we will be incorporating new features we hope you will find useful, entertaining and expand your AMC horizons.

You can now promote your topics at your favorite social media site by clicking on the appropriate icon (top upper right of the page) while viewing the topic you wish to promote.


  • November 27, 2024, 07:21:43 AM

Login with username, password and session length

Author Topic: Flickering Battery light  (Read 7931 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline Bird-o-Prey

  • Eagle Limited
  • *****
  • Posts: 533
  • Thumbs Up 39
Flickering Battery light
« on: January 16, 2012, 10:08:56 PM »
I have been driving the car for a couple of months now with the new battery (brand new Gel Exide battery with 750 cold cranking amps) and all seemed well.  I filled up the tank on the car on Thursday afternoon and parked it.  I went to the grocery store today and when I started it up, I noticed the battery light was flickering.  The alt. gauge is sitting steady right where is should be, the oil pressure guage is running steady between 38 & 43 lbs (it started working again after I switched to 10W40 from 20W50) and the vac gauge is working too.  When I went out, the car started right away with out any trouble and it drives with no problem.

I haven't been under the hood in weeks!  Any idea what might be going on here??? 

Cheers
No matter how bad YOU think it is ... it could always be WORSE!!

Offline DaemonForce

  • Grease Magnet
  • Eagle Limited
  • *****
  • Posts: 525
  • Thumbs Up 8
Re: Flickering Battery light
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2012, 10:47:13 PM »
Sounds like a loose connection somewhere or your alternator is about to fail.
1983 Limited
AMC 258C {R2:27.Jun.13}
Carter 2681 {R2:28.Oct.12}
TorqueFlite A998 {R6: -20.Apr.12}
NP129 {R2:28.Apr.12}
M35-273 {???}
Compression: 0
Corrected Idle: 0RPM

Rebuild:
???

Offline Bird-o-Prey

  • Eagle Limited
  • *****
  • Posts: 533
  • Thumbs Up 39
Re: Flickering Battery light
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2012, 02:01:12 AM »
The altenator is less than 4 months old.  It is a brand new Bosch.  I don't see how something could suddenly come loose after 4 days of not being used ???  I was hoping that the battery was just low and needed recharging.  When I accelerate the light almost goes out.  I will put it on the charger and see if that helps.  When I replaced the altenator, I used di-electric grease to prevent corrosion on all my connections, including the battery posts.

I am at a bit of a loss.

Thanks
No matter how bad YOU think it is ... it could always be WORSE!!

Offline IowaEagle

  • AMC Eagle Archivist
  • Administrator
  • AMC Eagles Den Addicted
  • *****
  • Posts: 31968
  • Thumbs Up 477
Re: Flickering Battery light
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2012, 06:11:29 AM »
Is the alternator belt slipping or loose?  What is you idle set at?
Click for Toledo, IA Forecast" border="0" height="100" width="150   


Not a Jeep.  Not a Car.  Its an AMC Eagle!

1982 Eagle SX/4 Sport;
1980 Concord DL;
1970 Ambassador 2 Dr HT, SST
2002 Hyundai Santa Fe;
2008 Jeep Patriot Sport - Freedom Drive II

Offline carnuck

  • Having a 727 means never re-doing the trans again
  • AMC Eagles Den Addicted
  • ********
  • Posts: 3451
  • Thumbs Up 89
  • Near Seattle
    • Virtual Jeep
Re: Flickering Battery light
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2012, 02:12:21 PM »
It could be a weak regulator in the alt or it's sensor wire may be frayed. I see that a lot on GM style alts.
AMC/Jeep gauges are for amusement only. Any correlation between them and reality is purely coincidental!

Offline Bird-o-Prey

  • Eagle Limited
  • *****
  • Posts: 533
  • Thumbs Up 39
Re: Flickering Battery light
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2012, 09:33:20 PM »
Hi Doug.  The idle is at +/- 750 rpm with the MC2150 on it.  The belts are tight.  The Alt is new.  It was running tickety-boo for the last 3 months or so.  I parked it for 4 days and now I have a flickering Batt light.  The volt meter in the instrument package is holding steady right where it should and doesn't twitch (except when a switch is flipped or the intermittant wipers go off, which is to be expected, then it just moves a titch indicating a power draw for a device).  The battery has lots of juice.

I am not sure it is the Alt.  The lights don't dim when the idle speed drops from accelerating to idle speed.  Even if I have the blower on high and the wipers on! 

I am pulling whats left of my hair out trying to sort this one out. 

Thanks
No matter how bad YOU think it is ... it could always be WORSE!!

Offline jim

  • AMC Eagles Den Addicted
  • ********
  • Posts: 6484
  • Thumbs Up 102
Re: Flickering Battery light
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2012, 10:19:18 PM »
Could it have to do with a faulty ground somewhere?
I'm right 98% of the time, and I don't care about the other 3%.
"The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people;
that... it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
--Thomas Jefferson to John Cartwright, 1824. ME 16:45
What part of "shall not be infringed" do they not understand?
08 Impala
01 Yukon 4X4
(There's more to life than fuel mileage)
83 Eagle wagon; shared responsibility as daily driver
88 Eagle white woody wagon; shared responsibility as daily driver
86 wagon parts car
Click for Little Rock, AR Forecast" border="0" height="100" width="150

Offline Bird-o-Prey

  • Eagle Limited
  • *****
  • Posts: 533
  • Thumbs Up 39
Re: Flickering Battery light
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2012, 10:26:56 PM »
That is probably true, however, I am vexed by how the ground can suddenly become faulty when the car has just sat for 4 days and no one has been under the hood in weeks.  I checked all my connections a little while ago and all seems well.  The battery light is usually indicative of a problem in the charging system, though, isn't it?

Thanks again!
No matter how bad YOU think it is ... it could always be WORSE!!

Offline 83Eagle!

  • AMC Eagles Den Addicted
  • ********
  • Posts: 6958
  • Thumbs Up 180
Re: Flickering Battery light
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2012, 10:44:46 PM »
These old birds are odd when it comes to electrical stuff. Does sound sound like the alternator is on the way out.
That's what the issue was with my battery light anyway.
Click for La_Vista, Ne Forecast" border="0" height="100" width="150

"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they
are genuine."

- Abraham Lincoln


1983 Eagle Wagon
2003 Saturn LW200
2007 Saturn Ion
1985 Mallard Class C motor home

After our fiasco with the Toyota Corolla I got for my wife I believe I am done with Japanese vehicles.

Dude you are preaching to a choir member that is close to becoming an AMC Minister if you know what I mean.


Offline Bird-o-Prey

  • Eagle Limited
  • *****
  • Posts: 533
  • Thumbs Up 39
Re: Flickering Battery light
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2012, 01:48:15 PM »
Now for something completely different.  I had a chance to drive the car today for about an hour or so.  By the time I got home, the battery light has stopped flickering, EXCEPT, when I drive over a really bumpy section of snow and ice.  Then it flickers just a little (barely visible), otherwise, the battery light only comes on when I lay into the pedal from a dead stop.  Could it just be a low battery??  Is it possible there was just some moisture in the alternator??  I am totally confused here.  The alt meter in the car is steady on 14 amps with no accessories running and about 12 1/2 with the lights and wipers and blower running.

I will take it for a long drive tomorrow when I go to work and see where we sit then.

Thanks for the input.

Cheers
No matter how bad YOU think it is ... it could always be WORSE!!

Offline craigp29690

  • Eagle
  • **
  • Posts: 131
  • Thumbs Up 9
Re: Flickering Battery light
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2012, 01:11:18 PM »
I've got one of my toys that the battery light stays on all the time.  When I first got it I figured bad alternator and changed it out, no difference.  Bought one of those plug in the cigarette lighter volt meters to see what was going on with the charging circuit and no issues.  Voltage at battery with all the electrical accessories runnig is right where it should be.   Short story, there is an Exciter Circuit that lights the Battery Light and somewhere in that circuit there is a break, short or bad connection. 
1957 Nash Rambler
1964 Rambler Classic 770 2dr
1965 Rambler Classic Wagon              NON-AMC
1966 Rambler Classic Wagon              1981 MAZDA 626 (RWD)
1972 AMC Ambassador Wagon           1991 MAZDA MX5
1981 AMC Concord Wagon                1978 Dodge Magnum XE
1984 AMC Eagle Wagon Ltd        
1987 AMC Eagle Wagon Ltd           Yes I have a few toys..........

Offline carguy87

  • Eagle DL
  • ***
  • Posts: 197
  • Thumbs Up 11
Re: Flickering Battery light
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2012, 08:00:35 PM »
14 amps or 14 volts?  It sounds like your alternator belt is loose. These old birds have constantly on alternators and run between 13.5v and 16v if your going down the expressway.  If it dies when you step on it, your belt is probably slipping under the load.

Offline Jurjen

  • AMC Eagles Den Addicted
  • ********
  • Posts: 3132
  • Thumbs Up 168
  • Dutch Eagle Preservation Front
Re: Flickering Battery light
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2012, 05:09:11 PM »
Here is a nice link to understand our alternators:
http://www.alternatorparts.com/understanding_alternators.htm
"sparrows fly in flocks, eagles fly alone"

Eagle Wagon Limited 1983, Citroen C-Crosser 2010, Triumph Bonneville 1969, Yamaha XJR1300 1999, Yamaha TX750 1973

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf0jpiW6tRI

Click for Leeuwarden, Netherlands Forecast" height="90" width="160

Offline Bird-o-Prey

  • Eagle Limited
  • *****
  • Posts: 533
  • Thumbs Up 39
Re: Flickering Battery light
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2012, 12:16:48 AM »
Thanks Jurjen!  I have been running the car since then and the light has all but gone out.  In fact, the only tine I se it now is if I go over a bumpy road.  Then, it flickers just a bit.  With that being said, though, I have tested all the wired connections with the motor running and wiggling wires does not make the battery light come on.  So, there must be something loose inside the altenator??

Still working on it.
No matter how bad YOU think it is ... it could always be WORSE!!

Offline Jurjen

  • AMC Eagles Den Addicted
  • ********
  • Posts: 3132
  • Thumbs Up 168
  • Dutch Eagle Preservation Front
Re: Flickering Battery light
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2012, 06:54:02 AM »
Is your Bosch alternator really a new one or just a reman?
It looks like the diode trio is making bad contact or on its way out.
Those can be bad from new too.
"sparrows fly in flocks, eagles fly alone"

Eagle Wagon Limited 1983, Citroen C-Crosser 2010, Triumph Bonneville 1969, Yamaha XJR1300 1999, Yamaha TX750 1973

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf0jpiW6tRI

Click for Leeuwarden, Netherlands Forecast" height="90" width="160

 

SMF spam blocked by CleanTalk