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Offline DaemonForce

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Straight swap
« on: September 07, 2011, 01:47:55 AM »
I have a fried automatic transmission in my 83 Eagle and I have a perfectly good rebuilt transmission of the same design with the transfer case attached. I'm at the end of my sanity because of all the arguments in my house about replacing the transmission and I have to do this myself because no one will help me.

The transmission currently in my car spilled a little bit of fluid while cruising on the freeway for an hour and started jerking until I finally lost all the fluid and all gears. I still can't pinpoint the leak and I'm just going to try replacing the transmission with my rebuilt one while I find the culprit later(I'm guessing the torque converter flew apart). Are there any obstacles that may keep me from doing this? I have a good floor and decent transmission jack. I really need this car to work soon and I don't know where to research this or ask for help. WASP wouldn't even lift a finger to help me last week. :(
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Re: Straight swap
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2011, 02:34:11 AM »
has the rebuilt transmission been used since being rebuilt if so it will need the filter changed. as for the transfercase you will need to remove the it before you put the transmission in.
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Re: Straight swap
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2011, 03:22:24 AM »
Quote from: maddog on September 07, 2011, 02:34:11 AM
has the rebuilt transmission been used since being rebuilt if so it will need the filter changed. as for the transfercase you will need to remove the it before you put the transmission in.
The rebuilt one hasn't been used but I have a filter and gasket that should probably be used anyway. I suspect the transfer case may be a problem but I don't know what kind of work I'm looking at yet.
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Carter 2681 {R2:28.Oct.12}
TorqueFlite A998 {R6: -20.Apr.12}
NP129 {R2:28.Apr.12}
M35-273 {???}
Compression: 0
Corrected Idle: 0RPM

Rebuild:
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Re: Straight swap
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2011, 11:16:16 AM »
Great. Thanks.

There's one other thing bothering me. The transmission assembly already has a transfer case bolted to it. Is it a good idea to keep the one I've been using or swap out? :-\
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Carter 2681 {R2:28.Oct.12}
TorqueFlite A998 {R6: -20.Apr.12}
NP129 {R2:28.Apr.12}
M35-273 {???}
Compression: 0
Corrected Idle: 0RPM

Rebuild:
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Re: Straight swap
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2011, 02:58:59 PM »
Quote from: Regalwizard on September 07, 2011, 02:41:25 PM
why throw more wrenches into the works then need be? :)
Only one tiny contradiction here: The entire vehicle is failing.

This month I've had to replace PCV valves, oil(blowback problem), a water pump, starter solenoid and now the transmission. The transfer case is the only part that isn't in question and I have to wonder when it will be. I don't need my 4WD failing me when I need it next month.
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AMC 258C {R2:27.Jun.13}
Carter 2681 {R2:28.Oct.12}
TorqueFlite A998 {R6: -20.Apr.12}
NP129 {R2:28.Apr.12}
M35-273 {???}
Compression: 0
Corrected Idle: 0RPM

Rebuild:
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Re: Straight swap
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2011, 03:16:07 PM »
Quote from: Regalwizard on September 07, 2011, 03:12:54 PM
I HIGHLY recommend talking to Jeep guys; these things are close enough to Jeeps that, even if they can't help with parts, they'll at least be able to help with advise, & maybe even a hand or a recommendation to a good 4x4 shop.
That's probably the smartest thing I've heard all year. o_O

I have one Jeep friend I can see about this. He's a guy that machines transmissions and has this obnoxious looking Jeep with axles that look like they came off of a 6x6. I probably should seek him for advice. -_-
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Carter 2681 {R2:28.Oct.12}
TorqueFlite A998 {R6: -20.Apr.12}
NP129 {R2:28.Apr.12}
M35-273 {???}
Compression: 0
Corrected Idle: 0RPM

Rebuild:
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Re: Straight swap
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2011, 05:23:35 PM »
Quote from: Regalwizard on September 07, 2011, 03:24:16 PM
so finding parts for any of that I just tell 'em it's an 83 Cherokee, much faster, easier, & cheaper then trying to explain what an AMC Eagle is :P
I've needed to know this workaround for so many years it's not funny. -_-

Anyway I have both plates off and I'm loading the transmission jack now. I think the transfer case comes off next?
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TorqueFlite A998 {R6: -20.Apr.12}
NP129 {R2:28.Apr.12}
M35-273 {???}
Compression: 0
Corrected Idle: 0RPM

Rebuild:
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Re: Straight swap
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2011, 05:53:19 PM »
Yes makes it easier.
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Re: Straight swap
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2011, 06:20:09 PM »
Something tells me I should mark and pull the drivelines first. Any problem in doing that?
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Carter 2681 {R2:28.Oct.12}
TorqueFlite A998 {R6: -20.Apr.12}
NP129 {R2:28.Apr.12}
M35-273 {???}
Compression: 0
Corrected Idle: 0RPM

Rebuild:
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Re: Straight swap
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2011, 06:24:20 PM »
No and it doesnt matter. However I used to have a test up here for the transfer case. Its gone.
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Re: Straight swap
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2011, 06:45:46 PM »
If I have to pull the engine, do I have to go through this process with the transmission again? I know I would have to at least unbolt the bell housing like I will later but there was something in the way of me doing that.

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AMC 258C {R2:27.Jun.13}
Carter 2681 {R2:28.Oct.12}
TorqueFlite A998 {R6: -20.Apr.12}
NP129 {R2:28.Apr.12}
M35-273 {???}
Compression: 0
Corrected Idle: 0RPM

Rebuild:
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Re: Straight swap
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2011, 07:21:54 PM »
Help me understnd. I done this nearly a dozen times. I don.'t understand your question however.
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Re: Straight swap
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2011, 07:52:48 PM »
Uh....Nevermind. I got it. I think too much. No wonder I always come off as malicious. x_x
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AMC 258C {R2:27.Jun.13}
Carter 2681 {R2:28.Oct.12}
TorqueFlite A998 {R6: -20.Apr.12}
NP129 {R2:28.Apr.12}
M35-273 {???}
Compression: 0
Corrected Idle: 0RPM

Rebuild:
???

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Re: Straight swap
« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2011, 08:23:38 PM »
just remember to unbolt the torqconverter before you remove the transmission or you will have more problems.
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Re: Straight swap
« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2011, 09:26:58 PM »
Quote from: maddog on September 07, 2011, 08:23:38 PM
just remember to unbolt the torqconverter before you remove the transmission or you will have more problems.
Elaborate? I don't really intend to reuse this transmission again. I might be able to rebuild it but I'm certain the torque converter is damaged beyond reason.
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1983 Limited
AMC 258C {R2:27.Jun.13}
Carter 2681 {R2:28.Oct.12}
TorqueFlite A998 {R6: -20.Apr.12}
NP129 {R2:28.Apr.12}
M35-273 {???}
Compression: 0
Corrected Idle: 0RPM

Rebuild:
???
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