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Re: Ginger the 83 wagon
« Reply #270 on: June 03, 2011, 08:14:10 AM »
I don't about that technical stuff but I don't have a problem with trippin any codes,where would they show up?as a glowing battery/alt idiot light?I dont have any of those issues but yeah grab (if you can) the crank sensor,mine has a special lower crank pulley mounted part attached to the oil pan,I'll have to take more pics.I think it may have a special crank pulley too but pix will tell
 Tougeagle ,there should be plenty of pics in the engine section and the older link Bigguy45 now Philotomys wagon in the your Eagles thread
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Re: Ginger the 83 wagon
« Reply #271 on: June 03, 2011, 10:56:50 PM »
I dont know much at all about ECM's. As long as it doesnt effect how the car runs it can throw all the codes it wants  ;D.....thanks for that link philotomy!! Im going to check it out right now.
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Re: Ginger the 83 wagon
« Reply #272 on: June 04, 2011, 08:44:09 AM »
I'm gonna have the paperwork copied for ya today,do you have the harness connection to your comp.?see if you can grab it off the vehicle it came from ,most of my wiring is stck with just a few changes/connections and less vacuum lines too
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Re: Ginger the 83 wagon
« Reply #273 on: June 04, 2011, 10:52:52 PM »
unfortunatly I didnt get the harness off that vehicle. half the plugs were broke and the wires didnt look so hot. I am going to try and get to the junk yard next friday...there are about 12 other jeeps there that should be able to provide a useable harness.....I sure appreciate the help philotomy!!

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Re: Ginger the 83 wagon
« Reply #274 on: June 05, 2011, 12:44:18 AM »





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Re: Ginger the 83 wagon
« Reply #275 on: June 05, 2011, 01:19:16 AM »
I love eggs!!!
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Re: Ginger the 83 wagon
« Reply #276 on: June 05, 2011, 12:54:59 PM »
Hey just wondering if you have a printer,I could scan em all(the conversion instructions) at work tomorrow and email em to ya,then you could just print and have em rather than wait for snail mail,either way let me know.ps I do have areas highlighted and other notes written in there too
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Re: Ginger the 83 wagon
« Reply #277 on: June 06, 2011, 01:39:02 AM »
There will be two "conversion codes" stored in the computer, and if you have a check engine light wired up, that light will always be on. You can reset the codes, but they'll just come back immediately. You'll have a code for alternator generator field, because the 4.0 alt is controlled by the computer, and the Eagle's obviously isn't. You'll also get a fan relay/circuit fault code, unless you convert to an electric fan and use the built in relay in the power distribution center (where your essential fuses and relays are).
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Re: Ginger the 83 wagon
« Reply #278 on: June 06, 2011, 10:40:26 AM »
here's some pix ,hope they help




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Re: Ginger the 83 wagon
« Reply #279 on: June 06, 2011, 10:42:02 AM »
That bottom photo is taken looking up from the bottom of the car.
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Re: Ginger the 83 wagon
« Reply #280 on: June 06, 2011, 09:40:55 PM »
I got to page 11 of the first 14 (7 more in a supplement/tip sheet)then i ran outta ink,going to wallyworld tomorrow and will resume copying on wed,promise
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Re: Ginger the 83 wagon
« Reply #281 on: June 07, 2011, 12:44:51 AM »
I certainly appreciate this Philotomy!! eggs to you my friend!
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« Reply #282 on: June 12, 2011, 11:51:31 PM »
This last few weeks has really sucked for progress. Ive had bill after bill and I have not been able to get any parts I need. I was trying to get at least 1 part per paycheck but the last few checks have gone to repair bills on my bike as well as some home repairs. If I can get the cam shaft I will be a happy camper...that way I can at least start to reassemble the block...I also need to figure out a plan for my oil pump....replace or reuse?

 
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Re: Ginger the 83 wagon
« Reply #283 on: June 13, 2011, 09:00:19 PM »
It looks like philotomy's conversion is mostly hesco, and if that includes the harness and ecm, chances are good the ecm has been flashed and reprogrammed to ignore the conversion codes. I myself had strongly considered buying the hesco harness when i was doing my conversion, but their price on them had skyrocketed from the last time I had looked into it a few months prior :(

I know that feeling, I just got an expensive ticket coming back from your place to c-springs, and my yard equipment was stolen last week the day I left for Lamar, so I had to buy a new trimmer and blower (my biggest customer gave me his troy bilt XP mower, so he's getting free service for the next month and a half), and in addition, I had to buy a new blade and adapter for that mower...  So, all in all about 500 bucks taken out of the budget I had planned to spend on a powertrax and front end rebuild... My rear diff definitely needs a rebuild, the fluid smells burnt and it locks up bad with any turning after highway driving. Of course, my throwout bearing is starting to make noise too.. go figure.

It sounds like this week will be my last working at this site, once the demo is done they're not going to need us anymore. I may swing by your place on the way home, though there's a catch.... I can definitely get some work done on bluebird, if I might be able to crash for the night at your place. If not, that's totally cool, no worries at all. Anymore, when I work on something, especially something that I know may take more time than planned, i like to set aside a lot of time, keeps the frustration down.

As for your oil pump... if everything else is getting new, might as well get a new oil pump. That's 80,000 LESS miles that new pump will have on it ;) keep in mind too that if it did go out, and didn't cause catastrophic engine damage, it would be heck to replace....
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Re: Ginger the 83 wagon
« Reply #284 on: June 13, 2011, 09:34:20 PM »
Yes sir I do have the Hesco set up all done by BigGuy45(previous owner) as an engineering final project -he passed his class but he said back in 2005 the whole kit inc header ran him in the ballpark of $3000 brand new.I'm sure you can locate some used parts or better yet they do have mopar part #s if there is only a part here or there needed.I also should mention I have a 4.2/258 not a 4.0 ,but whatever installation instructions or pictures I can offer can only help,
 I have to admit though,it does feel like its got a LOT more guts than a couple of my old carburetor equipped cars,I suppose the header and straighter exhaust helps.
  You'll get her there Shanebo,h*ll I was off here for almost 3 years but kept her and now back focused on her again ,knowing someday I will have her prowling the streets again.
 
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