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Re: Ginger the 83 wagon
« Reply #225 on: May 18, 2011, 01:10:12 AM »
Well I got my motor back today. It does look really good. I was very pleased it. There was really nothing I could do to it today. I need get a cam, rod and crank bearings gaskets, timing gears and chain...and the list goes on. The  stock pistons look in good shape and the wrist pins are snug but I cant help but want a brand new shiny set of pistons...We'll see on that one. It seems like with every step foward I make the light at the end of the tunnel keeps looking further ad further away.

 
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Re: Ginger the 83 wagon
« Reply #226 on: May 18, 2011, 01:28:05 AM »
Ok so after getting my ya ya's out over getting my block back I got a sudden burst of motivation. I went outside and pulled gingers bum fender and got the fender flares and trim off....those rear bumper caps are a pain in the  :censored: to get off!!

My parade was short lived however.  When I was pulling the chrome hood strip I took a long hard look at the engine bay....I started staring at that rats nest of wires and hose and quite honestly got myself pretty psyched out. Its going to be a nightmare sorting out what goes and what stays when I install the 4.0 ECM.
My god!! what a mess!! I wish I could just rip it all out and start fresh....I did that once on another eagle...Needless to say it never saw the road again. I was young and stupid and ripped out every hose and cut every harness to "start from scratch"....That one is a topic in the Dont do this section.
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Re: Ginger the 83 wagon
« Reply #227 on: May 18, 2011, 04:50:42 AM »
The task does look daunting but with my help and my car as an example, it should be pretty easy to do. The only thing to worry about is the exhaust, something i'm still sorting otu, since my front driveshaft rubs again...
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Re: Ginger the 83 wagon
« Reply #228 on: May 18, 2011, 08:30:33 AM »
looks great Shanebo !! I know, I was just thinking this morning , why can't I just rip it all out , go old old school,distributor vaccumm advance and vaccumm for the brake booster.12V to the coil , presto. I had an old 68 Firebird that had wireing issues, I just put in 3 toggle switches. One for the starter, one for the distributor power,and one big one for power to the headlights.lol. hey it worked : )

Oil those cylinders up while it sets , and the journals and crank surfaces, they rust up quick.

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Re: Ginger the 83 wagon
« Reply #229 on: May 18, 2011, 11:56:29 AM »
I sure appreciate all your help and know how Toug!! Thanks again!!

Should I use that Marvel oil or just plain old motor oil? Hopefully it wont be apart for long but Id beter get out there and do that before it does rust.
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Re: Ginger the 83 wagon
« Reply #230 on: May 18, 2011, 07:40:28 PM »
Just coat it all with motor oil.But when you assemble it , wipe it off and use assmbly lube on all your bearings etc , cam lobes, lifter contact points, pushrod tips etc etc etc.......

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Re: Ginger the 83 wagon
« Reply #231 on: May 18, 2011, 09:21:34 PM »
In the 82 parts car, and I think in my 87 as much as I looked at it, there are two almost separate harnesses. The old ECU comes out of the passenger side, and the main power harness comes out of the driver's side.

You should be able to separate the ECU harness and get everything out of the way pretty easily. Just mark any connectors that join the two, and try to see what sensor they handled.
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Re: Ginger the 83 wagon
« Reply #232 on: May 18, 2011, 11:37:21 PM »
Alot of it is emmission related by the looks of it. Im gonna tackle it soon cuz Im stewing big time....I just need to get in there and do this thing..it will probably be ok....and hey....If I do screw it up Im sure someone here will know how to fix it  ;D LOL
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Re: Ginger the 83 wagon
« Reply #233 on: May 19, 2011, 03:05:05 AM »
There are going to be a few leftover connectors including your two wire temp, your single wire coolant temp for gauge, your manifold heater, electric choke, Alternator and starting system, firewall plug and a few other odds and ends. While your motor is out you can wipe
 Down your engine bay too... I wish ihad done that when i had everything apart.
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Re: Ginger the 83 wagon
« Reply #234 on: May 19, 2011, 11:18:04 PM »
Shes gonna need alot of elbow grease!! that engine bay is pretty rough!! probably end up using a brillo pad to get it paintable.
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Re: Ginger the 83 wagon
« Reply #235 on: May 20, 2011, 08:49:12 AM »
Purple Power and a pressure washer works wonders  ;D  It will also remove scale and loose paint  ;).
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Re: Ginger the 83 wagon
« Reply #236 on: May 23, 2011, 02:58:23 AM »
The paint on that car is in excellent condition, it's easily a bit better than mine is, just, as shaggimo said, use purple power and a pressure washer or car wash and clean it out, then wax it up with macguire's showroom shine wax, that stuff is amazing. Save yourself some cash and focus on getting her running first ;)
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Re: Ginger the 83 wagon
« Reply #237 on: May 23, 2011, 10:20:13 AM »
Should I use that Marvel oil or just plain old motor oil? Hopefully it wont be apart for long but Id beter get out there and do that before it does rust.

I was just checking out your thread shanebo.  Looks like you have got a lot going on with your Eagle.  I did notice this though and thought I'd reply about it.  When you're oiling bare steel to keep it from rusting you should not use motor oil.  Motor oil will trap moisture under itself and you will still have rust.  You need to use a moisture displacing oil like WD40.  Another thing or product that works really well and especially for long term storage is battery terminal protectant.  This comes in a spray can and is red or purple usually.  It works very well on bare heads, cranks etc. but takes a bit to wash off after.  Brake clean works well to remove it though.

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Re: Ginger the 83 wagon
« Reply #238 on: May 24, 2011, 12:08:34 AM »
Wd-40 is alot easier to apply too ;D....thats tomorrows project after work.

Pay day this week.....that means new 4.0 cam!! and probably the rods and lifters. If funds allow.....now all I need is a 4.0 cylinder head and Ill have the ball rollin again! I just acqired that other 86 thats is an alternator short of being a daily driver...I hope....Ill probably hook the one up from Ginger temporarily to see if it is in fact a driveable car
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Re: Ginger the 83 wagon
« Reply #239 on: May 25, 2011, 01:12:36 AM »
Wd-40 is alot easier to apply too ;D....thats tomorrows project after work.

Pay day this week.....that means new 4.0 cam!! and probably the rods and lifters. If funds allow.....now all I need is a 4.0 cylinder head and Ill have the ball rollin again! I just acqired that other 86 thats is an alternator short of being a daily driver...I hope....Ill probably hook the one up from Ginger temporarily to see if it is in fact a driveable car
There is a machine shop in Denver that will machine your cyl head from start to finish: magnafluxing, dipping, milling, glass beading, 3 angle valve grind, new stem seals and fully reassembled for 200 bux..... in case you're ever passing through ;) Definitely look forward to updates on your 86 as well... Make sure when you get the cam that the pushrods and lifters are for that year as well, jeep changed pushrod height ever 2 or three years...
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