oil change humor

[eaglefreek]

Summit, Jegs, Amazon, JC Whitney and even your local parts store carries them. http://www.summitracing.com/search/Brand/Trans-Dapt-Performance-Products/Product-Line/Trans-Dapt-Performance-Remote-Oil-Filter-Relocation-Kits/

[Monkeyjoe]

Walmart does have the filters.  They always look on the computer.  the eagle is not likley on the computer but in a book for older cars they have under the counter right under or beside the register.  I have been to walmart in two different states that said they did not have the filters.  The walmart where i live always pulled out the book so when I went to the other walmarts, they said they didnt have the filter, I said "look in the book under the register.  With a puzzled look on their face, they find the book and the correct filter number.

[tougeagle]

I just go to Autozone or some other parts store, I always use Bosch filters and Royal Purple. Makes for a painfully expensive oil change but lasts 5k miles and bosch filters are always in stock for the 4.2.

[eaglefreek]

Walmart does have the filters.  They always look on the computer.  the eagle is not likley on the computer but in a book for older cars they have under the counter right under or beside the register.  I have been to walmart in two different states that said they did not have the filters.  The walmart where i live always pulled out the book so when I went to the other walmarts, they said they didnt have the filter, I said "look in the book under the register.  With a puzzled look on their face, they find the book and the correct filter number.

I don't ask, I look for the filter number and still couldn't find it.

[AMCKen]

NAPA number ends in '258', which kinda handy. Their website says 1258 but IIRC there were 5 numerals in the ones I've been getting

I think the NAPA number is 51258. : )
Actually, it's 21258. That's their regular filter. The good 'Gold' one is 1258.
Update: it used to be 51258 but they changed there numbering a bit. I bought 2 today and someone had overwritten the stamped '5' with a '2' in feltpen.

[Monkeyjoe]

Walmart does have the filters.  They always look on the computer.  the eagle is not likley on the computer but in a book for older cars they have under the counter right under or beside the register.  I have been to walmart in two different states that said they did not have the filters.  The walmart where i live always pulled out the book so when I went to the other walmarts, they said they didnt have the filter, I said "look in the book under the register.  With a puzzled look on their face, they find the book and the correct filter number.

I don't ask, I look for the filter number and still couldn't find it.

Thats the problem.  ASK!!.  It is not in the little computer thing in the filter department or in the book in the filter department.  They have a special book under the register, different than what they have for the customers.

[eaglefreek]

I don't ASK. I go with the filter number and look on the shelf. I don't need to look it up. I don't ask for help at Walmart, Home Depot, Lowes, etc. It's a waste of time. I go to the auto parts stores with the part number. I don't have them look it up on their computer. It's frustrating watching them try to figure stuff out. I've had to show employees at two different times how to check a starter and an alternator on the tester.

[maximus7001]

Stay away from FRAM. Go to NAPA, or WIX oil filters. They are constructed better.

X2 on the stay away from fram. Without an oil guage on most Ealges most would never know why not to stay away from fram. When I had a 77 buick skylark oddfire v6 with 45000km(no oil guage) I had bought a 12 case of fram filters. I used them for regular 5000km oil changes. That engine died from having too low of oil pressure at 90000km. I still had two filters left from the case(12-10=2). These filters also fit my 1997 Safari AWD van with an oil guage so I figured that I could use them up without realizing that is what killed the buick engine.

After changing the oil with one of these filters the oil pressure at idle was 20 psi hot at idle in D instead of the 30psi hot at idle in D that it has today with a Hastings filter (200000km later). After the shop told me to get rid of the fram I was still skeptical thinking it was the pump so I took off the fram and put on my last one, same thing, 20 psi!, took a bus to get a different brand (Wix) and the pressure shot back to 30 psi hot idle in D. So with first hand experience of these garbage filters I would recomend never using them again.

Older Buick v6 engines have always had lower oil pressure and with a fram filter it made the oil pressure closer to zero hot at idle in D instead of the 9-13 psi that it should have been. Thats what killed the engine.

After trying different brands over the years since then I have concluded that (in no peticular order) Hastings, Wix, Autopar made by Wix, Mopar, K&N, AC Delco, Ford motorsport, and Penzoil are the brands of choice according to my oil pressure readings. I had a purolator and a Canadian Tire one read too low as well.

Max.

[Bobs Eagles]

Our local Wal-Mart don't carry the Fram #25 filter either, and the little computer don't list anything else either that fits the Eagle. They don't either have the worn out book out on the sales floor for customers. A few years back I did ask them about checking to see if any other filter they had would fit my Eagle, and they just looked on their computer at the counter, and said NO. But now after reading above that they also have a book under the counter, I will have to look to see what they also list for it. As in the last year I have gotten to know several of the TLE (Tires & Lube Express) Employees, as my Co-workers. Yes, a year ago I started as a Super Center Electronics Sales Associate, but I do assist customers all over the store. So it would be nice if I could get some filters at Wal-Mart, as we get a 10% discount on products there, and NAPA prices seem to be going up all the time. Yeah, for what they pay at Wal-Mart, I can see why some employees don't like to do anymore then they have to in finding oil filter numbers. Like that joke, we get paid "Weekly" there, but more like "WEAKLY"!
I bet a few of you are asking, Have I ever let my Wal-mart coworkers ever change the oil in any of my AMC cars? The answer is: NO, they don't carry the filter, so they say they can't. Ha ha.  But I am sure they would do a good job, as there is always a long line of customers there getting work done. But I am just "Picky" of who I let work on my Amc cars, if I can't do the work myself, I only trust a few others to do the job. That way I don't get a worker asking, whats a Amc!

[JayRamb]

Napa is a better filter by far than FRAM.

[IowaEagle]

Wix also makes the filters for Parts America.

[AMCKen]

Stay away from FRAM. Go to NAPA, or WIX oil filters. They are constructed better.

After changing the oil with one of these filters the oil pressure at idle was 20 psi hot at idle in D instead of the 30psi hot at idle in D that it has today with a Hastings filter (200000km later). After the shop told me to get rid of the fram I was still skeptical thinking it was the pump so I took off the fram and put on my last one, same thing, 20 psi!, took a bus to get a different brand (Wix) and the pressure shot back to 30 psi hot idle in D. So with first hand experience of these garbage filters I would recomend never using them again.

Older Buick v6 engines have always had lower oil pressure and with a fram filter it made the oil pressure closer to zero hot at idle in D instead of the 9-13 psi that it should have been. Thats what killed the engine.

Does the low pressure indicate a filter that is too restrictive or one that is too free-flowing? Would depend on where the gauge gets it's reading from in the oil circuit - before the filter or after.   

[tougeagle]

Stay away from FRAM. Go to NAPA, or WIX oil filters. They are constructed better.

After changing the oil with one of these filters the oil pressure at idle was 20 psi hot at idle in D instead of the 30psi hot at idle in D that it has today with a Hastings filter (200000km later). After the shop told me to get rid of the fram I was still skeptical thinking it was the pump so I took off the fram and put on my last one, same thing, 20 psi!, took a bus to get a different brand (Wix) and the pressure shot back to 30 psi hot idle in D. So with first hand experience of these garbage filters I would recomend never using them again.

Older Buick v6 engines have always had lower oil pressure and with a fram filter it made the oil pressure closer to zero hot at idle in D instead of the 9-13 psi that it should have been. Thats what killed the engine.

Does the low pressure indicate a filter that is too restrictive or one that is too free-flowing? Would depend on where the gauge gets it's reading from in the oil circuit - before the filter or after.   

If you have high oil pressure after the filter you need to go to a thinner oil. More pressure= less flow.

[BlackIce05]

I learned the hard way to stay away from fram. I have a 99 Dodge with the cummins and used fram oil filter on it. Blew the engine with less than 20k miles on it. Had to argue with Dodge but they finally agreed to replace it under warranty. Apparently they knew there was an issue with fram filters but failed to warn me. They said the filters were swelling shut and closing off oil circulation. Ended up throwing a rod and blowing the turbo. That was the last time I used fram oil filters.

[rollguy]

I learned the hard way to stay away from fram. I have a 99 Dodge with the cummins and used fram oil filter on it. Blew the engine with less than 20k miles on it. Had to argue with Dodge but they finally agreed to replace it under warranty. Apparently they knew there was an issue with fram filters but failed to warn me. They said the filters were swelling shut and closing off oil circulation. Ended up throwing a rod and blowing the turbo. That was the last time I used fram oil filters.

More fuel for your fire:  Type fram oil filter in the search on youtube.  You will never use a fram filter again.