hypereagle's AMC V8 Mounting Kits

[rygar]

hey, i have an 81 kammback 2x4. interested in the mounts. [email protected]

[thereverendbill]

hey, i have an 81 kammback 2x4. interested in the mounts. [email protected]

if it is a 2 wheel drive then it is a spirit and WAY WAY rare.  I'd just keep it as close to stock as possible and look for an eagle to install a V8 in 

[hypereagle]

 You have either a Gremlin or a Kammback without a front diff. What would you like to know about the mounts?

[68AMXGOPAC]

I have a question ,Hypereagle. Ok, maybe 2 : ) . If someone had no front diff in thier eagle, would a complete V8 crossmember from say a V8 spirit etc. fit right in ? and what color is your 73 Jav/Amx ? I had a plum crazy colored one, bone stock, 304 3spd. , even with the radio delete....lots of floor rot though.I paid $50 for it for the spoiler and fell in love with it and repaired it over a couple of years, my first AMC.

[IowaEagle]

A Gremlin or Spirit would need the V8 cross member from another small bodied AMC (Hornet/Gremlin/Concord/AMC Spirit) and of course all of the correct mounting hardware.

[AMCKen]

At a glance, I'd say the small car crossmember is the same whether V8 or 6. It's the brackets that are welded to it that are different. At a glance.
I'd put the 2 side by side and the brackets were the only difference I noted, but I didn't do any actual measuring to confirm.

[68AMXGOPAC]

Thanks guys. So it would seem maybe the mounting kit is the way to go , and have all the parts that way.

[hypereagle]

The 2WD and 4WD cross members are way different from each other. The crossmember in the 4WD is what makes it the 4WD.It probably weighs 3 times that of the 2WD. It sweeps further ahead so the front diff sits behind it. this way the axles are also straight across from each other. As well you will notice that the lower control arms are 3 - 4 inches lower than the 2WD. The lower control arms are quite a bit different as they actually sweep rearwards as the 2WD go straight sieways. The most real noticable item a first sight is just how much taller the steering knuckle is on the 4WD.
 Ken is right all the small body cross members will bolt on anyone or the other. The difference from the 6 and 8 cyl  is just the brackets welded onto the crossmember which dictates whether 6 or 8 on the 2WD.
Never was a V8 cross member in 4WD and can't be done with the 2WD cross member.
Oh Ken I am parting out the 77AMX call me if you need something.

As well the 73 AMX which I no longer have was Bittersweet orange.  Now have a 70 AMX 390 4sd. Originally Bittersweet orange with Shadow mask.

[Mavericke]

I'm looking at the bell housing on the stcok tranny and wondering if the flywheels and flexplates will match up to the 360.

Pat sent me the "write up" on the 360 and even after downloading 3 different programs, I still cannot open the dang file. I tried calling Terry, but no response yet. No response to email either. I'm trying to pull off another one of those famous "Mav Miracles"... but need info ASAP. Anyone wanna chime in?

Just trying to figure up costs atm for what Pat needs in his. Luckily, he's got all the brackets needed and HyperEagle's custom mounts as well... but just curious what else is needed for the swap. Am I to assume that everything bolts up from there? It looks like there might be some "fun" with the stearing box... and since I planned on dropping my 360 in my Sx4, I'm curious how that will bolt up to the manual tranny with the clutch assembly and all that jazz.

The more info I get as fast as possible... the better my chances are on putting a smile on an ol'man's face! *wink*

[mudkicker715]

Yes it will work. I have a 4.0l jeep tranny and flywheel behind my v8.

[Mavericke]

So just to clarify... the 360 will bolt up to my original 4-speed tranny?
And the other 360 will bold up to it's original automatic tranny?

[hypereagle]

No problem with the bolting up where you have a problem is if you use the 6 cyl flywheel or flex plate. Less a 290 flywheel you will have an out balance engine and you will have a very noticeable vibration. Need the flywheel for the displacement of engine. Each AMC V8 displacement is balanced more or less than the next.
 360 for 360 401 for 401 etc. Can use the 6 cyl. flywheel if balanced for the correct V8 displacement.
I balanced my 6cyl. flywheel for a 360.
  Also be especially causess about year of engine when using an automatic trans. 1973- 1974 the torqueflite trans had the crank flange shape changed. You will those years to date engines. The earlier will not work unless the flange is machined and cchanged to except the later design torque convertor.
  Hope i didn't make it to complicated. My definitions may be hard to understand. If not quite sure please do call me as it would be easy for me to expllain over the phone if any extra questions need be asked.
  Thanks again  Terry   1-780-464-4907

[Mavericke]

Ok, so I guess I'm not sure what I do to correct the problem. Everything does seem to bolt up fine, we tested it out yesterday. So as far as the flywheel goes - I do intend to use the one from the I6... and it's all fairly new too... you saying I can take it in to have it machined for a 360? What am I supposed to tell these guys at the machine shop and how will though how to machine it properly to fit a 360?

And if I don't do it... how bad will the vibration be? Like, "omg, I can't drive this thing" bad... or like, "yeah, it vibrates a lil bit but you get used to it... who care, it's a V8 baby!".

[Mavericke]

The write up says you need an oil pan from a passenger car... so does anyone know what passenger cars qualify? Where should I be looking for find one... going to need the oil pan and the pickup.

I'll tell ya what I need... I need someone to say... "hey, you need an oil pan from *insert model/year here* and then you will be good to go for your 360 swap."

Anyone have a clue?

[hypereagle]

To be more specific about machine shop it should be an engine machine shop. The flywheel will nee to balanced for a 360 AMC. I could find out the proper weight for it. I do highly recomend not to run a 6 cyl. flywheel other wise as it will eventually take out main bearings starting with the rear one. It's not a cool vibration either as i have seen the wrong flywheels in AMC V8's in the past.