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#91
Body Shop / Re: What plastic or rubber bod...
Last post by Ludworks - March 12, 2025, 07:25:50 PMVangremlin,
Great link. I reached out to them to see if they are still reproducing the parts in their catalog.
Great link. I reached out to them to see if they are still reproducing the parts in their catalog.
#92
Body Shop / Re: What plastic or rubber bod...
Last post by Ludworks - March 12, 2025, 07:24:02 PMMaddog,
Seems to me that the gaskets that are available right now are missing some of the molded features of the originals. I'd like to correct that when I reproduce them.
Hinges are underway as we speak. I'll make a dedicated post on them when possible. Chrome paint is a fine idea, but there are quite a few more durable metal coatings to explore first I think.
Seems to me that the gaskets that are available right now are missing some of the molded features of the originals. I'd like to correct that when I reproduce them.
Hinges are underway as we speak. I'll make a dedicated post on them when possible. Chrome paint is a fine idea, but there are quite a few more durable metal coatings to explore first I think.
#93
Body Shop / Re: What plastic or rubber bod...
Last post by maddog - March 12, 2025, 07:00:13 PMI just tried looking up the parts but my phone thought their website was a virus.
#94
Body Shop / Re: What plastic or rubber bod...
Last post by vangremlin - March 12, 2025, 11:27:27 AMQuote from: maddog on March 11, 2025, 11:23:12 PMI found another thing that would be nice to have made and that is headlight buckets and their surrounds.
Here is a link to a company that makes the headlight buckets and surrounds. I had traded emails with them about 10 years ago and it looks like they are still offering those parts and others. Look in the Rambler section. Let us know if you are able to get any of these parts.
http://www.mirsa-mx.com/
#95
Body Shop / Re: What plastic or rubber bod...
Last post by maddog - March 11, 2025, 11:23:12 PMI found another thing that would be nice to have made and that is headlight buckets and their surrounds.
#96
Suspension, Steering, Brakes, Wheels & Tires / Re: Discontinued Inner Tie Rod...
Last post by Ludworks - March 08, 2025, 08:02:08 AMMips,
I appreciate you trying the parts and clarifying that the inner tie rods need to be CW thread. The thread direction is where all the confusion stems from.
As far as potential replacements I've got good news and bad. First the bad. Mercedes tie rods do NOT fit. The taper is wrong. They are something like 1/10 instead of 1/8. The one I initially got from NAPA was opened and on close inspection turns out there was what looks like small rocks or metal debris stuck to the wide part of the tapered stud. Gave the illusion of a tight (if somewhat odd-feeling) hand fit. Imagine my surprise when I ordered a different brand only to find they didn't seem to fit at all. PSA: Don't trust "new" parts to be in good condition, always clean and inspect.
The good news is Suzuki Sidekick tie rods are perfect, almost. The taper is a perfect match, the only confirmed non-AMC part I've found that fits. The issue lies in the length. I'm still working through this. I need to order more parts, but it looks like Suzuki Jimny "FJ" tie rods might also fit and length wouldn't be an issue. Only problem is they weren't sold in the US or Canada (as far as I'm aware), so they're a bit harder to get.
I appreciate you trying the parts and clarifying that the inner tie rods need to be CW thread. The thread direction is where all the confusion stems from.
As far as potential replacements I've got good news and bad. First the bad. Mercedes tie rods do NOT fit. The taper is wrong. They are something like 1/10 instead of 1/8. The one I initially got from NAPA was opened and on close inspection turns out there was what looks like small rocks or metal debris stuck to the wide part of the tapered stud. Gave the illusion of a tight (if somewhat odd-feeling) hand fit. Imagine my surprise when I ordered a different brand only to find they didn't seem to fit at all. PSA: Don't trust "new" parts to be in good condition, always clean and inspect.
The good news is Suzuki Sidekick tie rods are perfect, almost. The taper is a perfect match, the only confirmed non-AMC part I've found that fits. The issue lies in the length. I'm still working through this. I need to order more parts, but it looks like Suzuki Jimny "FJ" tie rods might also fit and length wouldn't be an issue. Only problem is they weren't sold in the US or Canada (as far as I'm aware), so they're a bit harder to get.
#97
Suspension, Steering, Brakes, Wheels & Tires / Re: Discontinued Inner Tie Rod...
Last post by MIPS - March 05, 2025, 08:42:40 PMQuoteWell Mips hasn't replied, but I'm going to assume he's correct.My bad. I dropped the ball on this and it's taken me months to get back to it.
The other reason I bought two complete sets (one to your part numbers and the other that I knew would go together) was to replace both sides at the same time. This also gave me two complete extra sets of parts so I was able to double-check with the other half of the kit I ordered in case it was something weird like the adjuster was incorrectly tapped at the factory and no, it's the same issue with the threads going the wrong direction.
A correct Eagle inner tie rod threads onto the adjuster sleeve (remember the sleeve is threaded different directions so it will only go on one side) in a clockwise rotation. If we use your suggested replacement adjuster sleeve, same thing.
If you use your recommended replacement Hornet tie rod end you have to both use the other side of the adjuster sleeve and rotate it counter-clockwise for it to thread into the sleeve. I've triple checked this and placed everything out on a bench and made sure I mixed nothing up. I'm positive about what I'm saying.
However I see you have come up with a solution already.
#98
Suspension, Steering, Brakes, Wheels & Tires / Re: Discontinued Inner Tie Rod...
Last post by Illeagle1984 - March 04, 2025, 09:45:43 PMI must say I love how this thread is going. I have messed around with the tie rod dilemma for hours. I went down the 'other vehicle' tie rod path, but found everything that fit was too short and a custom billet adjusting sleeve was too much. I never thought of the double sleeve idea. That is pure genius.
I got lucky and snatched up a few old made in USA Moog inners from Rock Auto about a year ago when like 4 mysteriously appeared. Someone must have cleaned out an old warehouse. The boots should be replaced before installing...but anyways. Hope that tie rod turns out to be real!
I got lucky and snatched up a few old made in USA Moog inners from Rock Auto about a year ago when like 4 mysteriously appeared. Someone must have cleaned out an old warehouse. The boots should be replaced before installing...but anyways. Hope that tie rod turns out to be real!
#99
Suspension, Steering, Brakes, Wheels & Tires / Re: Discontinued Inner Tie Rod...
Last post by maddog - March 03, 2025, 07:12:31 PMWho knows but it would be crazy if it is.
#100
Suspension, Steering, Brakes, Wheels & Tires / Re: Discontinued Inner Tie Rod...
Last post by vangremlin - March 03, 2025, 01:38:12 PMAnd it's ready for pickup. I wonder if it is the last surviving inner tie rod lol
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