The project begins... For those of you who haven't met Bucket yet, here she is.
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l543/ehrmannmp/83Eagle1.jpg)
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She is currently all original. I have decided to NOT cut her up but rather to keep her looking "mostly" original. This thread is starting tonight because the custom lift springs arrived tonight. My intentions are to do a proper stock+2" lift retaining the IFS. It should sit about 4-5" taller than she sits now. No blocks or spacers will be added to her. Custom rear springs are in the works now and all proper suspension/Xcase issues will be addressed. I'm working with a well known maker of lift kits (I cannot say who yet) and everything I do will be documented and available.
Since I now have 4 Wagons ;D I will lift each of them a different way and have 4 different lifts covered.
This thread will be Buckets very own and all work will be here.
Quote from: GRONK on October 14, 2011, 11:39:32 PM
Since I now have 4 Wagons ;D I will lift each of them a different way and have 4 different lifts covered.
Just dive right in!
Sounds like you are a close second for acquiring the most Eagles in the shortest amount of time!
Hyacinth and Richard Bucket (Bouqet)?
Yup
Keeping Up Appearances...
:laughing4:
Oh, by the way, nice Wagon...
THE BOUQUET RESIDENCE THE LADY OF THE HOUSE SPEAKING....No you cannot have a number 35 with noodles instead of rice. This is a white slim line telephone in the vicinity of a clergyman.
All right, I was able to spend a couple hours up with Bucket yesterday and start planning out the work. I found a little more body ruse than I was expecting, but nothing huge and all simple to properly repair. NO rust on her belly so I'm very happy. She just has a few blemishes.
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l543/ehrmannmp/Rust0Roof.jpg)
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l543/ehrmannmp/Rust-PassDoor.jpg)
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Other than that, she's straight and solid.
I also took some measurements of the current tip/toe ride height:
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The new front springs have arrived:
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and I'm waiting on the new rears to show up. I'm going for a stock+2" lift, retaining the IFS and not messing around w/ spacers/blocks. The plan is to do everything right the 1st time and not go cheap on anything. In 6-8 months this WILL be my DD for work and for play.
I'm building the new Motorcraft 2150 for it this weekend. The original carter actually does awesome! I had a couple stalls but found a leaking PCV line and that cleared everything right up. Took her out for 2 30 minute drives yesterday and she was purring nicely.
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I will have ALL emissions and carburetor components available soon if anyone is interested. Bucket has spent her whole life at 6500' elevation so if anyone needs a carb jetted for high altitude let me know. She passes emissions with zero tweaking.
What? What was that? Why yes that was a nice Clifford 6=8 valve cover sitting in there.
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That was a nice find too.
The seats will come out on my next trip too. They are torn and uncomfortable. I'm 6'2" and my head brushes the headliner (not sagging) so lower profile, more comfortable seats are in order.
Please feel free to comment (good or bad), ask questions (I'm a documentation animal) and provide suggestions.
Little about your rust, have you checked under your plastic yet?
Watching the lift ideas 8)
Plastic will come off on the next couple of trips. I'm going to concentrate my efforts on lift/engine/tranny then body.
Now seeing as there is actual body work I need to adderss, the rear window delete may just happen.
if you are looking for some good seats there are some down here at the local yard but i have no idea how much.
The 29th street junkyard has a very clean one in that color scheme...very solid body..that would make for an east fix
in other words we should have mini meet here in pueblo huh. ;D ;D ;D
I was planning on some non-AMC seats but I'm always interested!!! I'd love to head to a yard sometime ansd dig around.
I work full time for the military, owna nd operate the carb business and own a gym w/ my wife. I don't get a lot of play time....... That's one reason I'm so excited for the Eagles I purchased. I consider that my "me" time
On the same note, since you all are close, if I have any resources that are needed (blast cabinet/heated garage/storage space out east/etc) let me know.
Here are the seats I'm thinking about (front and rear):
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oh and the car shanbo is talking about is one with manual windows and locks if i remember right. as for the seats pictured what are they from?
Fold and stow seats from a minivan. They are low profile and in the back, will fold down like the bench. I'm going to try and adapt them to the power seart controld from the original seats.
I'm haggling over shipping w/ the seller. He wants $240 for shipping on 4 seats!!!!! Not going to happen.
so those are from a carravan huh. well i think i'm off monday so if you want i can go to one of the local yards and see if they have some that are cheaper.
That would be awesome. Looking for a matched set of 4, black, brown or tan. Maybe grey. Don't care if cloth, vinyl or leather. They just have to be low profile enougk and preferably fold flat and recline. I'm not asking too much am I? :P
I am looking for an auto shift cover so I can mount some floor gauges too.
We need to plan a time when we're both off. It'd be awesome to hook up and hit a yard. I have a TFI install this morning and I'm going to N U T T E R a Jeep and help the guy adapt his stock air cleaner to a Motorcraft. What I'm saying is, if you need a hand wrenching on anything today I'll be in the shop for a couple of hours.
Scored a new set of wheels for Bucket today. Well, not new, but you know.... Aren't they pretty?!?!?!
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It pays to help people out. These came off of a YJ I was helping re-add some emissions components to. I commented on the new black steelies and he mentioned he had the aluminum set that came with the Jeep. 5 hours later, the Jeep was purring and I had a new set of wheels!
nice score dude and as for meeting up the only day i ever seem to have off here lately is Monday and the only yard here that has Eagles is closed on Sundays and Mondays but if you a specific day that you can come down here let me know and i will ask for it off.
Awesome.
Keep me posted...Id like to take a trip down there to get a few odds and ends.
well went out there today and unfortunately none of the caravans they had were the ones with stow and go. but there is a scout and a 77 Cherokee out there.
This will be fun to watch!
Quote from: maddog on October 24, 2011, 08:52:15 PM
but there is a scout and a 77 Cherokee out there.
Scout's are awesome!!
Scouts have Dana 44 axles front and rear and are probably a perfect width for an Eagle. They are 5 on 5.5 versus the 5 on 4.5 Eagles and Cherokees have, so new axle shafts or swapping both axles in a solid front axle conversion would be needed to have matching wheels all around.
If the scout is a diesel, I need the bellhousing for my diesel eagle conversion. The diesel Scouts are crazy hard to find. This is my 1980 Scout Traveler:
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If I recall correctly, didn't those have a nissan diesel?
Yes, a 3.3L Nissan SD33. They had a turbo SD33 like mine in 1980 only. Its the same engine AMC put in CJ10 towpigs for the air force, which were a mixture of turbo and non turbo, and AMC also put it in a few motorhomes and a small number of Australian and Japanese export full size Jeeps. If AMC would have put a diesel in an Eagle, instead of a conversion company that did the 1980 ones, they would have used an SD33 in my opinion. It is nearly identical in dimension as a 258. I put alot of information in a project thread and another diesel eagle thread here on the nest. Mine came with an extra engine and I will be buying a specially converted NV4500 to install it in an Eagle, once I find the bellhousing parts. My Scout has about 140 HP and gets at least 30 MPG.
the scout is a v8 optioned one from the early 70's if i remember right.
That engine would be a good cadidate for a diesel swap into an eagle
Scouts also have a unique short speedometer cable worth getting. Using that cable lets you put a fuel injection vehicle speed sensor on the firewall next to the brake booster instead of cramming it behind your Eagle speedometer. Thats how I plan on doing all of my conversions.
Alot of Scouts came with an AMC 258. It had a unique starter with the solenoid intergrated into the body like an Iron Duke starter. That solenoid is much more reliable than the Eagle fender wall unit and able to be cheaply replaced seperate from the rest of the starter. I'm pretty sure it is a bolt in replacement and I will be getting a Scout starter with mine to compare and confirm. I hope to replace all my Eagle starters with the Scout unit.
The International V8s are very robust engines, but they are all gas units. I wouldn't bother installing one in an Eagle when so many Jeep V8s are available. The turbodiesel SD33T is an inline 6 and an ideal diesel Eagle swap.
Hey Gronk theres an Eagle Limited at the pull n pay on 85/87 Im going down to check it out tomorrow...you just gotta promise not to buy it, I dont want you to get in any more trouble with your wife ;D :rotfl:...Ill let ya know how it looks tomorrow night.
Awesome. After Tootie, I think my eagle count will stay right where it is (for now) Momma was not very pleased. :-\
My big air comperssor took a dump last night so $$$ gets to get thrown at a new one today. Was not expecting that one.
Drove Bucket around a little this weekend. I believe she will be needing a tranny rebuild in her very near future.
This leaves me with a couple of options:
- Do I pull her heart and throw it in Tootie?
- Do I rebuild the Tranny in bucket and put a new engine in Tootie?
- Do I.........????
I'm meeting with the owner of a performance shop this week. He specializes in the I-6 and clains on his extreme builds he can ger 520whp out of the 4.2 block. That's not really what I'm looking for but it's nice to know I will know someone who really knows the 258. I'm not looking for an $8K build on an engine either. If I could get 180-200whp, I'd be very excited though (and have an engine that lasts over 100K miles.
I have the rear springs and the front coils too for Bucket but if Bucket donated an engine, the suspension will go to Tootie as well and bucket will end up witha solid axle swap.
More good news: I'm having a custom push bar (with brush guard option and light tabs) built for both Bucket and Tootie. I comissioned 5 of them (Ultimately I have 5 Eagles) but really it helped the cost per each one down enough for it to make sense.
I may have 1-3 for sale soon :)
Next comission will be wagon rear window louvers.......
VIN Decoder breakdown for Bucket:
http://www.vehicleidentificationnumber.com/vin-decoder/amc-car.html (http://www.vehicleidentificationnumber.com/vin-decoder/amc-car.html)
-Born in US of A
-American Motors Corp
-Multi Purpose Vehicle
-6-258 (4.2) 2bbl Carb
-Auto Floor Shift Part Time
-Eagle 4 door Station Wagon
-Limited
Interested to see what your push bar/brush guard will look like. You sure have wasted no time putting money into your Eagles! :)
I'm just tired of sitting on projects. I have 47 acres with too many projects to count (all unfinished) The Eagle(s) ae the most practical ones to get to work on.
Makes sense! Excited to see how they turn out!
I think we all should just pool our funds buy a plot of land and make a true eagles nest "Parts" yards for all of us that find eagles that can't be easily repaired. but have many donor parts. Only question is Who would be in charge of running it? :rotfl:
Quote from: Hawk258 on October 31, 2011, 03:47:20 PM
I think we all should just pool our funds buy a plot of land and make a true eagles nest "Parts" yards for all of us that find eagles that can't be easily repaired. but have many donor parts. Only question is Who would be in charge of running it? :rotfl:
There are several places like this around the states. Check out the Eagle Sanctuary Section. The logistics of having just one place for all things Eagle related is just impossible. Spending 500 bucks for transporting a car that is only worth 200 doesn't make sense. That's why there are more regionally located Sanctuaries. Where parts can still be stripped and shipped! :)
I have a great plot in Yoder that is definitely out of the way.
If anyone in CO needs a home for a busted Eagle, I can make that happen.
I only keep that house as a place to keep my "stuff" I don't really have any other reason for it. Maybe a good place to go for the Zombie Apocalypse
I wonder at what point your place becomes an Eagle Sanctuary. I would say five Eagles, with at least one of them being a vehicle about to be scrapped before you intervened.
There are many more Sanctuarys than even listed. Once you have one Eagle, you quickly find a second and third that you just can't resist. Notice that most Jeep guys don't experience this. Eagles are exceptional vehicles and are also exceptionally addicting!
Quote from: GRONK on October 31, 2011, 02:31:56 PM
I have 47 acres with too many projects to count (all unfinished).
If I had that much land, I'd have about 50 cars by now. :o Instead I just have a bi-level in the 'burbs with four AMCs on the premises. Might just be a matter of time before the one in the back alley catches the attention of bylaw enforcement.
Quote from: captspillane on October 31, 2011, 04:21:20 PM
I wonder at what point your place becomes an Eagle Sanctuary. I would say five Eagles, with at least one of them being a vehicle about to be scrapped before you intervened.
By that criteria, my house would almost qualify. My daily driven Eagle sits out front, while out back I have a Concord and Eagle in the garage, and another Eagle behind the garage. The latter three are all junkyard saves.
I also have six other AMCs scattered over three other locations. Addictive? Nooo... ;D
A Concord or Spirit is just an Eagle with a limp.... You've got official status by my book!
I've also got mine spread out over four properties within a 5 mile radius. Relative to the whole nation, its all one facility by my standards.
I comprimised w/ momma tonight. I just bought Tootie and she was not pleased. So i sold my GT Bradley and gave het the $$$. Little does she know I'm secretly making room for more Eagles...... Anyone want a 66 F-100 4x4? That's next on the list to go away.....
gronk if you keep this up you may have a more terrifying situation than a zombie apocalypse and that is an angry wife. :rotfl: good thing you have that property in yoder you may need it. :rotfl:
Quote from: captspillane on October 31, 2011, 11:53:58 PM
A Concord or Spirit is just an Eagle with a limp.... You've got official status by my book!
I've also got mine spread out over four properties within a 5 mile radius. Relative to the whole nation, its all one facility by my standards.
:rotfl: Eagle with a limp... I got to remember that one. :rotfl: I wish I had more space... I can only have one vehicle per driver at the place I am at... and my Birds sitting 88 miles away... Very hard to get anything done... Got a new clutch kit waiting for her too. ;-;
So I picked up the new wheels this weekend and they are the lightest wheels I've ever seen. They are Weld Racing Wheels. 15X8 (Might be 15X7 whick I would be very OK with) I think I definitely scored on this Monster Garage Freebie......
Pics or it didn't happen! :)
Pics it is. These suckers are LIGHT
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Oh yes, I believe I saw you post these somewhere. Hope they fit alright. They sure are shiny! :)
The good thing about yoder is its dry with not alot of vegitation....The perfect environment to stash cars for long periods of time with out the threat of rust....Heck some of those cars sitting in those junk yards out there have been there for 40 years or better and they still have pretty darn good bodies.
Bucket received her new carb last weekend. I haven't finished the ignition upgrade yet but it felt great to lose all the extra "stuff"
Here's what I started with:
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and the pile begins:
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I sure do love pulling the Carter's off:
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This is the stud removal tool I prefer to remove the studs from the intake manifold. MUCH easier than the 2 nut/wrench method. This tool also works great for rounded heads and broken bolts.
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Whilst you have the carb off, take the opportunitu to check and tighten ALL of your intake mounting bolts to the head. I ALWAYS find loose and leaking mounting points:
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Starting to look much better under there:
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All right, the new (my design) adapter is installed:
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I send an isolating gasket with some of my kits (mainly the new ones) so the linkage clears the booster port. If you receive multiple gaskets from me, this is the orde they are installed:
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I ran a test fit and saw my brake booster vacuum source line was making contact with my PCV port on the carb.
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A simple adjustment:
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And we are good to go:
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Here's how it's sitting at this point:
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Fuel line hook up:
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Bowl vent tube routed and installed:
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Everything installed (I used 2 thin air cleaners stacked just 'cause I had them available and they cleared the hood:
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I used a 2 wire choke on this one:
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Note I grounded it to the firewall:
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And that's it folks. I haven't fired it up yet as I haven't installed the TFI ignition yet. That will be on my next trip up to see mom. I did do the N U T T E R bypass as well so I'm ready to roll as soon as I have a little more free time.
Project took about 90 minutes from start to finish (cleanup included)
Very nice GRONK 8).
I noticed that thick looking wire attached to the intake manifold just in front of the carb. Is that one of the temperature sensors? Mine has the piece inside the manifold, but not the wire. Maybe that's why my temp gauge isn't working...
@ Baskinator: Could be a temp sensor. I'll check the next time I'm up there. Usually the temp sensor is on the rear of the intake and has a purple wire. Might not go to a gauge, might have been a control for the ECM. I'll investigate more next time I'm under the hood.
Ah, ok. That's probably it then. My car also had a lot of the emissions stuff removed unfortunately(my county requires visual emissions testing) and it's a later model engine, so I have to figure a lot of that stuff out. I just replaced one small temp sensor in the back, but there are 2 different types on RockAuto. One is similar looking to that, and goes into the intake. Thanks!
@ Baskinator: If you need any emissions components, let me know. I have cases of "stuff" removed from Jeeps and Eagles in the shop.
That would be awesome GRONK, I'll let you know if I need anything (when I get to that point).
GRONK, thanks for a little look into the Eagle Motorcraft carb swap. This might come in handy when I'm doing it on Sunday. Bookmarking this page! :)
The temp gauge sending unit is actually a little sensor that goes into the cylinder head at the back, I mean right up against the bulkhead. It will be on the driver's side right between the valve cover and the intake manifold and has only one wire going to it.
Yeah, I know about that one. Replaced it a couple weeks ago. I just thought there might be another one because RockAuto shows 2 different types for the 258.
She's ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!! Had a chance to finish the ignition (TFI) upgrade and fire her up. Went to turn the key and..... crank, crank, crank, crank, nothing...
Spent 2 hours troubleshooting the N u t t e r bypass, the ICM, the solenoid, rewired EVERYTHING and charged the batterey.
Still nothing...
Highly PO'd, I took a break. Came out 2 hours later and moved all the plug wires clockwise 1 position. Turned the key and instant purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr... Ran awesome, no smoke, no ticks, no nothing but sweet music to my ears.
I went home very happy..... ;D
thats awesome Gronk!! and hey, soon she'll have a new set of seats
Sweeeeeet! Its amazing how all that frustration melts away when you finally gets things right.
I've already started pulling out the old seats Shanebo. I think I'm ordering the rubber flooring too this week. man I'm excited.
Priya, the radio is yours. Cover shipping and the radio is free.
vangremlin: how right you are Sir. I was ready to set it on fire when it wouldn't start. A lot of deep breaths and a lot of swearing. The crazy thing is is the distributor is WAY off from where it should be. Someone dropped it in about 3 hours off as the clock turns and I didn't take the time to check the position of #1 contact before I tore into it. Measure twice and cut once rules apply on cars too.
OK, so my son decided he wanted the aluminum wheels I had set aside for Bucket for Tootie. No problem. A quick peek on CL and BAM!
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I now have a matched set of 5 black on black steel 15x8 wheels. This works better for Bucket because I'm planning on running a full/matched spare on the roof rack, or possibly making a swing gate bumper for the rear.
HOPING I can fit some 235 75 15's on Bucket when the lift is done. I have a set of spacers for the rear wheels ready to go.
I can't wait :blob1:
Whatcha up to this weekend Gronk...As far as I know Im free. If the weather agrees maybe you could get atleast one of the cars...sundays suposed to be in the mid 50's.
This weekend works my friend. I'll check with Momma but any afternoon shuld be good. I have Monday off as well.
Here's what I had problems with. Where do you 'plumb' everything?
as an example:
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It would be great if you showed where everything goes, and where it comes from. I can't tell where venting gases coming from the crankcase to where on the carb,
that small hose below the choke, where does that come from?
And isn't there like two (or three) places on the back of the carb? one on the Manifold?
I take it you didn't even bother with the EGR, right?
Please show plumbing of this.
Whuntmore
The PCV valve on the rear of the valve cober routes DIRECTLY to the PCV port on the Motorcraft 2150. No "T's" no splits, no nothing else. Rout directly from the PCV valve to the PCV port (manifold vacuum port on back of carb)
Make sure you have a functional PCV valve. If unsure, buy a new one (under $5)
Whuntmore
The port you marked "where come from" is the ported vacuum source for the distributor advance. No splits, no "T's" jusr ported vacuum to the diat AFTER base timing and idle have been set.
I do not EVER use the EGR. I've run both ways, with and with out. I prefer without. I am having milled block off plates being made now to replace the EGR all together.
GRONK, any chance you have some of those block off plates?
X2 on the plates. With a gasket if you have them.
Have you brought Bucket down to the Springs yet Gronk?....we gotta get out for a drive when you do.
Currently selling 120 carbs a month. I haven't sen bucket in over 2 months!!!!! Brought on an employee to get a bit ahead so I can get bucket's lift done and Tootie's engine finished. I have your title to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hear ya about the being busy thing....I've been home once in the last 3 days...been working like a dog. I'll give you a call this coming week and I can bring you gingers title too...heck I only live right up the road now.