Eagle Automatic Transmission

[Thomas]

This could be a new topic if needed.  However, I'll post my question here since I believe that the question and answer are germane to eagle automatics.

I AM INSTALLING A 727 transmission in my SX/4.  I have a Cherokee trans cooler that I can install in front of the a/c condenser.  My question is "which port on the trans case is the fluid being pumped out of?"  The reason I ask Is that I want the fluid to go through the radiator first then through the auxiliary trans cooler then back to the transmission.

[IowaEagle]

Great question.  I can check tonight but I bet someone here knows without looking it up.

[Thomas]

Josh, that maybe 'good ' advice for some one who is only doing light duty four wheeling.  But, ...  the number one enemy of automatic transmissions is heat.  The second is dirt.

Yes, you can do moderate wheeling without an auxiliary cooler.  I have done it many times before.    But if I know of a better way to do things and if I can afford it, then I do it.
The 727 was rebuilt for a grand wagoner.  The reason it needed rebuilding was slow speed wheeling and snow plowing.  Snow plowing is done in cold weather when one would not think of overheating the transmission.  But at those slow speeds there is not very much air movement through the radiator.  Therefore the heat builds up.
Also, for the most effective cooling, one should hook up the lines so that the fluid goes through the radiator first and then through the auxiliary cooler before returning to the transmission.  If hooked up in the opposite fashion then one would be cooling through the auxiliary unit and then heating it in the radiator.
And for maintenance purposes just think of all four wheeling as severe duty usage.

[Thomas]

Is your electric fan a pusher mounted between the radiator and grill?

[ejw4x4]

   Are there any four speed automatics that will bolt up w/o much modification to an Eagle?

[IowaEagle]

The AW4 from a Jeep 4.0 will bolt up.  IIRC you will need to redo the drive shafts and maybe some floor pan mods.  I forget what is needed regarding electronic sensors.

[ejw4x4]

The AW4 from a Jeep 4.0 will bolt up.  IIRC you will need to redo the drive shafts and maybe some floor pan mods.  I forget what is needed regarding electronic sensors.

Cool, I've always wondered if there was one out there, with gas near four bucks overdrive is quite necessary lol.

[Bird-o-Prey]

I called a guy at "Jeep Thrills" the other day.  This is a shop that only works on Jeep and Jeep related vehicles (like AMC's), and I was told by him that the output / input spline count would be different.  Is he just trying to get me in for $110/hr labour charges or is there something to that??

[Bird-o-Prey]

Sorry, the last post refers to the AW-4 tranny.

[eaglefreek]

According to a quick Google search, the pre 91 AW4's had a 21 spline count and teh 91 and later ones had a 23 spline. All Eagles used a 23 spline output on the tranny. Now I don't know if there are different lengths. Maybe you can install the matching transfer case with low range and put the labor charge towards that purhchase instead.

[demonicdragon]

http://www.drivetrain.com/new_overdrive/Dodge3speedautomatic/overdrivedodg3spdauto.html.. just found this page..did dodge actually use the same TF 727?

[Pack Rat]

Not sure what the question is, Torque Flite is Dodge.

[demonicdragon]

i wasnt sure dodge vehicles had it. ik chrysler used them.. wasnt sure any "dodge" vehciles did

[IowaEagle]

I think it would work only on 2WD applications.  On our cars it would have to go before the transfer case.  I think putting in an AW4 would be a whole lot easier and cheaper.

[Krash2Powder]

I've Read Through Most Of This Forum... But I'm Still A Little Confused... What Would Be My Best Bet For What Year And Style Jeep To Get A Tranny Out Of For My 84 Eagle Wagon?? I Have The I6 258 (4.2) Engine In There... And What Modifications Would I Need If Any To Get The Tranny In Quick And Easy To Get My Eagle Back On The Road And Into The Mud Pit??