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Gear Ratios

Started by 89 MJ, July 29, 2024, 11:16:00 PM

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spacedust

Hey I really appreciate the responses guys. I'm not positive what I have for gears but in guessing it's 2.35 unfortunately. I don't seem to have a diff tag, is the easiest way to tell by pulling the diff cover? Or is there a way to tell visually from the outside?

EagleSX4_5Speed

This should help there is a letter stamped into the rear axle on the right side of the diff cover that indicates ratio.



There should be a standard tag on the front axle but it will be very hard to see as the diff is very close to the front cross member.
'83 Eagle SX4. 92 4.0 fuel injected, T5, NP229, '01 Dana 35 with Detroit Truetrac 3.54 gears.

'87 Jeep Comanche. Renix 4.0 liter, AX15, NP242, HP Dana 30 and factory Dana 44 rear axle.

spacedust

Thank you for the info 5speed! I don't use forums much but so far you guys have been awesome help. I'll check when I get home, funny that I just replaced the pinion seal and didn't even see the stamp.

spacedust

Well I have a 1982 disco with J stamp so I should be good to buy the same gear set from rock auto since mine should be 2.73:1. Woot!

spacedust

Are gear swaps doable for the average backyard wrencher? Did you guys get an install kit when you did yours?

EagleSX4_5Speed

I have regeared 4 different axles and it is doable. However I would get a quote from a local shop and if you can afford it have them do it. The first one I did took me about a week to get just right. Also don't try to regear it while the axle is still under the car. Do it on a workbench or with the axle removed from the car on some jack stands on the ground.

If you do it your self I defiantly recommend buying an install kit. I thought it would be cheaper to just buy the bearings I needed but ended up spending more to get everything I needed individually than what the kit cost.
'83 Eagle SX4. 92 4.0 fuel injected, T5, NP229, '01 Dana 35 with Detroit Truetrac 3.54 gears.

'87 Jeep Comanche. Renix 4.0 liter, AX15, NP242, HP Dana 30 and factory Dana 44 rear axle.

vangremlin

I'm no expert mechanic but I would consider this job beyond my capabilities. Maybe watch a couple videos on YouTube a see if you would be comfortable doing this job.

Good luck!
1981 Kammback 258 - "Pepe"
1980 Coupe 258 - "Ginger
1972 Gremlin X 304
1978 Gremlin 4 cyl 121 - sold
1964 TBird 390 - sold

89 MJ

I would say it's a little complicated for the average guy. It takes a lot of time and precise measurements (we're talking thousandths of an inch) and you need to have a hydraulic press as well. If you're comfortable with all of that, go for it.
1986 Eagle: 258, Auto, Chrysler 8.25 rear, 3.54 gears
1989 Jeep Comanche: 4.0, AX-15, 8.8 rear, 4.10 gears
1940 Chevy PU: 350, 700R4

spacedust

Thanks guys! Sounds like I should probably leave this one to the pros although ironically I have machining experience so I've got dial indicators and experience in the right tolerance department and actually have a hydraulic press too! I'll pull the diff even if I do bring it to a pro, it sounds like that's definitely the way to go. I found a couple of diffs in the junkyard, I might grab one since it's a 3.07 non disconnect. I assume the non disconnects can hold more power.

89 MJ

Quote from: spacedust on October 04, 2025, 10:28:09 AMThanks guys! Sounds like I should probably leave this one to the pros although ironically I have machining experience so I've got dial indicators and experience in the right tolerance department and actually have a hydraulic press too! I'll pull the diff even if I do bring it to a pro, it sounds like that's definitely the way to go. I found a couple of diffs in the junkyard, I might grab one since it's a 3.07 non disconnect. I assume the non disconnects can hold more power.
If this is a car that will see a lot of highway use, you might actually want 3.07s. It sounds like you could swap the gears though. Maybe watch a few videos on D30 gear swaps and see if it's something you think you can do.
1986 Eagle: 258, Auto, Chrysler 8.25 rear, 3.54 gears
1989 Jeep Comanche: 4.0, AX-15, 8.8 rear, 4.10 gears
1940 Chevy PU: 350, 700R4

spacedust

I watched a few videos and of course they made it look super easy, in realty I can tell that it takes some serious patience. I'm going to poke around and check to see what my local shops will charge.

Long term I actually am hoping to engine swap it. I was talking to a fella down the road that LS swapped his Eagle and I even found a Tahoe doner. His drove really nice and and his had 3.73 gears so I think 3.54 gears would work nice for me. It'll drive decent now with the inline 6 and if I do ever LS swap it then it will also be decent. Plus my 8.8 already has 3.55 gears that I don't want to change.

Are you guys happy with the gears you chose or would you do it differently now?

89 MJ

I went with 3.54 gears and for the most part am happy with it. Biggest problem is the fact that I am now turning too many rpms to spend any real time on the interstate because I don't have overdrive. If mine were a car that was going to stay with the factory 3 speed forever, I would wish I went with 3.07 gears. Because my car will probably end up with overdrive in the future, I am glad I went with the 3.54s. I also usually don't end up over 60mph.
1986 Eagle: 258, Auto, Chrysler 8.25 rear, 3.54 gears
1989 Jeep Comanche: 4.0, AX-15, 8.8 rear, 4.10 gears
1940 Chevy PU: 350, 700R4

EagleSX4_5Speed

I like the 3.54 gears in my car. However I do have the T5 manual transmission. It has overdrive and at 60 mph I am running 2200 rpm. At 80 which doesn't happen very often it is about 2900 rpm.

I found this gear ratio calculator that was very helpful in choosing the gears I did. You can compare what you have now with the new setup.

https://www.grimmjeeper.com/gears.html
'83 Eagle SX4. 92 4.0 fuel injected, T5, NP229, '01 Dana 35 with Detroit Truetrac 3.54 gears.

'87 Jeep Comanche. Renix 4.0 liter, AX15, NP242, HP Dana 30 and factory Dana 44 rear axle.

spacedust

Do you guys daily drive your eagles?

89 MJ

Quote from: spacedust on Yesterday at 09:20:19 AMDo you guys daily drive your eagles?
Sure do. About 120 miles per week.
1986 Eagle: 258, Auto, Chrysler 8.25 rear, 3.54 gears
1989 Jeep Comanche: 4.0, AX-15, 8.8 rear, 4.10 gears
1940 Chevy PU: 350, 700R4

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