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Torquing the front axle nut

Started by JayRamb, August 21, 2014, 08:38:39 PM

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JayRamb

August 21, 2014, 08:38:39 PM
I have the TSM and it says to torque the axle nut on the front wheels to 25 lbs. I've read 75 lbs, and one blog on here said 180 lbs!

My two cents, I torqued it to 75 lbs, and I had a bearing growl in the front. So I torqued it to 25 lbs and all is well.

I went by the TSM. Why are peeps in here suggesting 75 lbs and 180 lbs...This was the front hubs that the topics were referring to!

I knew that the rears should be torqued at 180 lbs.

Go by the TSM!!!!
Jayson H.
Best HWY Mileage of 87 Eagle:  26.2 MPG

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vangremlin

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August 21, 2014, 10:04:07 PM
I'm confused.  I have a 1980 tsm and it says for the "Front Axle Hub Nut" it should be torqued to 180. 
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JayRamb

#2
August 21, 2014, 10:23:36 PM
Well I guess it would help to read the right line. Sorry!

But why on earth would the dang GROWL be WORSE when tighter?! The bearings are new in that hub!!
Jayson H.
Best HWY Mileage of 87 Eagle:  26.2 MPG

Believer in AMSOIL & Seafoam
1987 Garnet Red Eagle Wagon: 70,500 miles
1967 Rambler Rebel 4 Door 290 V8 (original family car) Marina Aqua 142K miles
1985 Eagle Wagon in Autumn Brown 74,800 miles as my daily driver
SOLD 1984 Black Eagle Limited w/Tach & gauge cluster: 245,100 miles SOLD

eaglefreek

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August 21, 2014, 10:41:30 PM
Quote from: vangremlin on August 21, 2014, 10:04:07 PM
I'm confused.  I have a 1980 tsm and it says for the "Front Axle Hub Nut" it should be torqued to 180.
Didn't the earlier hubs used a different type of bearing? Maybe it needed to be torqued more?  :-\
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JayRamb

#4
August 22, 2014, 11:37:57 AM
I talked with my mechanic who installed the bearings and he said they were a bit different than the originals he replaced. I'm just going to keep my eyes on the wheel...see if it's loose or not, and keep the 40 lbs torque I did last night. Cone of confusion!
Jayson H.
Best HWY Mileage of 87 Eagle:  26.2 MPG

Believer in AMSOIL & Seafoam
1987 Garnet Red Eagle Wagon: 70,500 miles
1967 Rambler Rebel 4 Door 290 V8 (original family car) Marina Aqua 142K miles
1985 Eagle Wagon in Autumn Brown 74,800 miles as my daily driver
SOLD 1984 Black Eagle Limited w/Tach & gauge cluster: 245,100 miles SOLD

Mernsy

#5
August 22, 2014, 12:31:13 PM
Something is definitely wrong. That nut should be torqued to 180 ft-lbs.

carnuck

#6
August 22, 2014, 04:21:32 PM
If he put in the ball style bearings then no it doesn't get tightened that much.
AMC/Jeep gauges are for amusement only. Any correlation between them and reality is purely coincidental!

DaemonForce

#7
August 22, 2014, 05:16:45 PM
It's the kind of pressure where you put a ratchet with a small extension on that nut and expect to bounce your full body weight on it to get it where it belongs.
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Compression: 0
Corrected Idle: 0RPM

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JayRamb

#8
August 22, 2014, 05:17:15 PM
Yes we did put in ball type bearings.
Jayson H.
Best HWY Mileage of 87 Eagle:  26.2 MPG

Believer in AMSOIL & Seafoam
1987 Garnet Red Eagle Wagon: 70,500 miles
1967 Rambler Rebel 4 Door 290 V8 (original family car) Marina Aqua 142K miles
1985 Eagle Wagon in Autumn Brown 74,800 miles as my daily driver
SOLD 1984 Black Eagle Limited w/Tach & gauge cluster: 245,100 miles SOLD

Mernsy

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August 22, 2014, 05:37:43 PM
Quote from: carnuck on August 22, 2014, 04:21:32 PM
If he put in the ball style bearings then no it doesn't get tightened that much.

Quote from: JayRamb on August 22, 2014, 05:17:15 PM
Yes we did put in ball type bearings.

Carnuck, do you have a torque spec?

carnuck

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August 22, 2014, 11:41:43 PM
Quote from: Mernsy on August 22, 2014, 05:37:43 PM
Quote from: carnuck on August 22, 2014, 04:21:32 PM
If he put in the ball style bearings then no it doesn't get tightened that much.

Quote from: JayRamb on August 22, 2014, 05:17:15 PM
Yes we did put in ball type bearings.

Carnuck, do you have a torque spec?

I recall it was only about 30 ft lbs. Too bad he didn't use the caged roller style. Much beefier
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