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Offline vargatron

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Engine Replacement
« on: June 19, 2014, 02:58:13 PM »
"Newbie" here!  I've had my Eagle since 2013, but most of that time has been spent fiddling with it in one way or another... (let's just say the previous owner was less than honest)

Much to my chagrin, what I was hoping (and initially told) wasn't going to be a major issue has turned into me needing a new engine.  Now I have literally no experience in this department, which is why I've come to you guys for advice.  What is my best option?  As far as I can tell, the car has 82,000 miles on it and is in pretty solid shape.  A local shop quoted me $3300 for a rebuild, while my mechanic was able to locate a remanufactured engine with a 3 year warranty for about $1600 (with fluids, labor, etc. it would cost me around $2200-$2500).  We also found a couple of used engines for under $500, but I have no way of telling how well they run and fear ending up with another headache.  Somebody suggested going with a newer Jeep engine, and another suggested I just buy another Eagle wagon and keep mine around for parts.

While buying it in the first place probably wasn't the smartest thing I ever did, I'm not just going to give up on it.  It's my problem child, but I love it and it's stuck with me whether it likes it or not :)
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Re: Engine Replacement
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2014, 05:05:06 PM »
Welcome to the Den!

I had good luck with buying a used engine off Craigslist for a great price, and had the ability to hear it run before I bought it.  And I was also able to able to do the install at my friend's house, who is a pretty good shadetree mechanic.  So I wouldn't necessarily be scared off by it.

However, in you case, I would go with the remanufactured engine with a warranty.  Doesn't sound like you can go wrong with that, as long as the rest of the car is pretty solid.

Good luck!
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Re: Engine Replacement
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2014, 05:18:56 PM »
I am even less of an expert than you are, but I know the 4 liter inline 6 used in Jeeps until 2006 is a popular swap. Dunno if that's what they meant by "newer engine."

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Re: Engine Replacement
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2014, 05:42:44 PM »
Unfortunately the engines I've found on craigslist were all already pulled, so while a $300 258 would save me money right now, I think in the long run it might make more sense to get the remanned.  That's how I'm leaning at the moment, anyway.


By "newer" they mean pretty much anything fuel injected, which I'm not entirely opposed to, but I did put on a brand new aluminum valve cover and Motocraft carb last summer.  However for the right price, it's something I'd consider.  I originally planned on keeping it stock, but after the valve cover swap that idea kind of went out the window.

Thanks guys, I'll keep you posted.
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Re: Engine Replacement
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2014, 06:05:23 PM »

Ol' money pit.  Paint's a bit dinged up and the headlights sag (among other things), but it's not bad for a Pennsylvania car.  Even with all of its problems it's been a trooper.
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Re: Engine Replacement
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2014, 08:01:36 PM »
headlight sag is an easy 8 dollar fix. Can buy the adjustment screws for cheap on eBay.
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Re: Engine Replacement
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2014, 09:07:49 PM »
I went with the remanuactured engine in mine, it was chaper than a rebuild and I liked the three year warranty. One year down and 10,000 miles and so far all is well
Rob c
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Manchester, TN

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Re: Engine Replacement
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2014, 09:09:18 PM »
headlight sag is an easy 8 dollar fix. Can buy the adjustment screws for cheap on eBay.

You should be able to pick them up at your local auto parts store too.  Get the pink ones!
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Re: Engine Replacement
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2014, 09:44:15 AM »
Do you live in PA? I live about an hour north of Philadelphia. I have about twenty engines sitting around and I can do the swap at my shop for time and materials at a very low labor rate.
Currently Inspected and Insured as of Jan 2013:
-1985 Eagle Station Wagon 258 T5 Stickshift
-1980 Eagle Station Wagon 258 Auto Fuel-injected with GM TBI

Minor Repairs Underway:
-1982 Eagle SX4 258 T5
-1981 Kammback 2.5L Iron Duke T5

Restoration Efforts Near Completion:
-1982 SX4- 401 NV3550
-1983 SX4- 4.5 MPI NSG370 (6 Speed)

Restoration Efforts Underway:
-1985 SW- 4.0 MPI AX15
-1982 SX4- 4.0 AW4
-1981 SX4- SD33T NV4500 (Turbodiesel 5 speed)

Future Rescue Efforts- '85 Maroon SW, '87 Limited SW, '84 Limited SW, '87 4 door Sedan, '81 2 door Sedan, '88 White SW, '77 4 door Hornet, '74 2 door Hornet, '79 Spirit AMX, '81 Kammback.

RIP- Red '81 SX4, '84 4dr Sedan, '84 SW, '81 SW, '80 Spirit, '83 SW, '83 4dr Sedan

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Re: Engine Replacement
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2014, 09:56:40 AM »
I'm in Scranton. Car was driving until my mechanic pulled the head and went to flush the coolant... He was holding on to it until I decided what I wanted to do, but just asked if I could take it back temporarily as he needed the space. Barely made it the two miles home without overheating, and now the left half of the engine is covered in oil.

I might take you up on that, if I can find somebody to help with transport.
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Re: Engine Replacement
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2014, 10:15:00 AM »
http://allentown.craigslist.org/pts/4532472940.html

258 on Craigslist about an hour and a half from me. Supposedly a "fresh, complete rebuild" pulled from a totaled car for $150...
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Re: Engine Replacement
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2014, 11:33:55 AM »
that's a pretty good deal on that engine, hard to say if it was really rebuilt but for that price you cant go too wrong

its worth that in scrap
Rob c
84 Eagle Limited Wagon (driven everyday)
81 Eagle Kammback
81 Spirit (undergoing surgery)
83 Spirit (parts car giving it all to keep the rest going)
Manchester, TN

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Re: Engine Replacement
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2014, 12:51:13 PM »
That is a heck of a deal.  I would ask the guy how it has been stored since being pulled to make sure it wasn't just sitting in his back yard exposed to the elements.  Good luck!
1981 Kammback 258 - "Pepe"
1980 Coupe 258 - "Ginger
1972 Gremlin X 304
1978 Gremlin 4 cyl 121 - sold
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Re: Engine Replacement
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2014, 12:58:24 PM »
its worth that in scrap

$150 in scrap for a 258? Dang I wish.

I got $0.09 a pound last time. That adds up to $9 for 100 pounds. An engine weighs about 300 pounds. That's a whopping $27. The entire Eagle is worth less than $300 in scrap.
Currently Inspected and Insured as of Jan 2013:
-1985 Eagle Station Wagon 258 T5 Stickshift
-1980 Eagle Station Wagon 258 Auto Fuel-injected with GM TBI

Minor Repairs Underway:
-1982 Eagle SX4 258 T5
-1981 Kammback 2.5L Iron Duke T5

Restoration Efforts Near Completion:
-1982 SX4- 401 NV3550
-1983 SX4- 4.5 MPI NSG370 (6 Speed)

Restoration Efforts Underway:
-1985 SW- 4.0 MPI AX15
-1982 SX4- 4.0 AW4
-1981 SX4- SD33T NV4500 (Turbodiesel 5 speed)

Future Rescue Efforts- '85 Maroon SW, '87 Limited SW, '84 Limited SW, '87 4 door Sedan, '81 2 door Sedan, '88 White SW, '77 4 door Hornet, '74 2 door Hornet, '79 Spirit AMX, '81 Kammback.

RIP- Red '81 SX4, '84 4dr Sedan, '84 SW, '81 SW, '80 Spirit, '83 SW, '83 4dr Sedan

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Re: Engine Replacement
« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2014, 01:06:01 PM »
By scrap I mean parting out the pieces and then selling whats left
Rob c
84 Eagle Limited Wagon (driven everyday)
81 Eagle Kammback
81 Spirit (undergoing surgery)
83 Spirit (parts car giving it all to keep the rest going)
Manchester, TN

 

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