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Re: Where can I buy new viscous coupling for transfer case?
« Reply #45 on: October 25, 2011, 09:54:49 PM »
There is a gray bar at the top of the page with "you web immages video....." and to the right is "More" with a drop down.  There will be a shopping selection.  Very useful!  Good luck!

Okay, I see a black bar at the top of the page with "you web images video..." and "More".  I click on "More" and I see "translate books finance scholar blogs youtube calendar photos documents sites groups reader" and then "Even more".  I click on "even more" and there is another 30 or 40 options but none of them are "shopping".

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Re: Where can I buy new viscous coupling for transfer case?
« Reply #46 on: October 25, 2011, 11:33:26 PM »
You found the exact spot. "shopping" is the first word, directly above "translate books finance scholar." Every time I look for it I can't find it at first too because shopping hides in plain sight right at the top.
Currently Inspected and Insured as of Jan 2013:
-1985 Eagle Station Wagon 258 T5 Stickshift
-1980 Eagle Station Wagon 258 Auto Fuel-injected with GM TBI

Minor Repairs Underway:
-1982 Eagle SX4 258 T5
-1981 Kammback 2.5L Iron Duke T5

Restoration Efforts Near Completion:
-1982 SX4- 401 NV3550
-1983 SX4- 4.5 MPI NSG370 (6 Speed)

Restoration Efforts Underway:
-1985 SW- 4.0 MPI AX15
-1982 SX4- 4.0 AW4
-1981 SX4- SD33T NV4500 (Turbodiesel 5 speed)

Future Rescue Efforts- '85 Maroon SW, '87 Limited SW, '84 Limited SW, '87 4 door Sedan, '81 2 door Sedan, '88 White SW, '77 4 door Hornet, '74 2 door Hornet, '79 Spirit AMX, '81 Kammback.

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Re: Where can I buy new viscous coupling for transfer case?
« Reply #47 on: October 25, 2011, 11:38:59 PM »
You found the exact spot. "shopping" is the first word, directly above "translate books finance scholar." Every time I look for it I can't find it at first too because shopping hides in plain sight right at the top.

When I click on it the first word is "translate", there is no "shopping".
« Last Edit: October 25, 2011, 11:40:34 PM by priya »

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Re: Where can I buy new viscous coupling for transfer case?
« Reply #48 on: October 26, 2011, 01:14:05 AM »
I put "119 viscous coupler" in and got one gibberish return. I put in "229 Viscous Coupler" and got one return. It was a viscous coupler being sold for 1090 dollars. Wow. The cool thing is that it lists the coupler as being applicable for both the 229 and the 249. I put in "249 viscous coupler" and got 43 returns, with multiple sources for a viscous coupler between 398 and 460 dollars. Didn't someone just confirm that the 119 and 229 use the same viscous coupler? That would mean the 249 really is compatible as I suspected. I will confirm this when I get home.
Currently Inspected and Insured as of Jan 2013:
-1985 Eagle Station Wagon 258 T5 Stickshift
-1980 Eagle Station Wagon 258 Auto Fuel-injected with GM TBI

Minor Repairs Underway:
-1982 Eagle SX4 258 T5
-1981 Kammback 2.5L Iron Duke T5

Restoration Efforts Near Completion:
-1982 SX4- 401 NV3550
-1983 SX4- 4.5 MPI NSG370 (6 Speed)

Restoration Efforts Underway:
-1985 SW- 4.0 MPI AX15
-1982 SX4- 4.0 AW4
-1981 SX4- SD33T NV4500 (Turbodiesel 5 speed)

Future Rescue Efforts- '85 Maroon SW, '87 Limited SW, '84 Limited SW, '87 4 door Sedan, '81 2 door Sedan, '88 White SW, '77 4 door Hornet, '74 2 door Hornet, '79 Spirit AMX, '81 Kammback.

RIP- Red '81 SX4, '84 4dr Sedan, '84 SW, '81 SW, '80 Spirit, '83 SW, '83 4dr Sedan

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Re: Where can I buy new viscous coupling for transfer case?
« Reply #49 on: October 26, 2011, 10:57:17 AM »
I wondered if the 249 was the same or not.
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Re: Where can I buy new viscous coupling for transfer case?
« Reply #50 on: October 26, 2011, 11:32:20 AM »
119 and 229 have the same numbers on them



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Re: Where can I buy new viscous coupling for transfer case?
« Reply #51 on: October 26, 2011, 11:54:44 AM »
This was the only thing I was able to find in my Yahoo/google searches:

http://stecouplers.com/recharge/modules/cjaycontent/index.php?id=9

It suggests the 119 and 229 use the same viscious coupler but althought it appears they are selling them one cannot click on any of the items to order or find out pricing/info.  Not sure what to make of that.

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Re: Where can I buy new viscous coupling for transfer case?
« Reply #52 on: October 26, 2011, 01:05:24 PM »
I put "119 viscous coupler" in and got one gibberish return. I put in "229 Viscous Coupler" and got one return. It was a viscous coupler being sold for 1090 dollars. Wow. The cool thing is that it lists the coupler as being applicable for both the 229 and the 249. I put in "249 viscous coupler" and got 43 returns, with multiple sources for a viscous coupler between 398 and 460 dollars.

I put "249 viscous coupler" in Yahoo and only found hits on ebay.  There were quite a few on ebay and prices were between $250 and $330.  It'd be nice to know for certain that this is the same as the 119.  It's hard to know what to think as they're listed as NP249, 249, 249J and the ads say they're for "Jeep 97 and up", "jeep 92-96" and "Jeep 93-97".  If the sellers don't agree on which Jeeps these fit I'm wondering how much one can assume about compatibility with an 81 Eagle.

I get nothing when I put "229 viscous coupler" in either Yahoo or Google.
« Last Edit: October 26, 2011, 01:10:20 PM by priya »

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Re: Where can I buy new viscous coupling for transfer case?
« Reply #53 on: October 26, 2011, 01:16:13 PM »
I have a deep mistrust for computerized compatibility charts like Autozone and online retailers use to classify parts. They only know what the list tells them. I've found that there is extremely little "Eagle" only components, its just a matter of confirming what other Jeep parts work. CV Shafts and clutch master cylinders are the only ones I know of, and both of those are still a click away on rockauto. I also have a stockpile of 8 new clutch cylinders and countelss CV shafts to keep my Eagles rolling my whole life. Even a Jeep Cherokee gas tank will work with reasonable amount of modification.

I have a 249 and several Eagle transfer cases sitting by their lonesome in my garage. I'll confirm once I get home in ten days from now. You know I'm at work when you see lots of posts from me, since I vanish from the nest once I get home.
« Last Edit: October 26, 2011, 01:19:15 PM by captspillane »
Currently Inspected and Insured as of Jan 2013:
-1985 Eagle Station Wagon 258 T5 Stickshift
-1980 Eagle Station Wagon 258 Auto Fuel-injected with GM TBI

Minor Repairs Underway:
-1982 Eagle SX4 258 T5
-1981 Kammback 2.5L Iron Duke T5

Restoration Efforts Near Completion:
-1982 SX4- 401 NV3550
-1983 SX4- 4.5 MPI NSG370 (6 Speed)

Restoration Efforts Underway:
-1985 SW- 4.0 MPI AX15
-1982 SX4- 4.0 AW4
-1981 SX4- SD33T NV4500 (Turbodiesel 5 speed)

Future Rescue Efforts- '85 Maroon SW, '87 Limited SW, '84 Limited SW, '87 4 door Sedan, '81 2 door Sedan, '88 White SW, '77 4 door Hornet, '74 2 door Hornet, '79 Spirit AMX, '81 Kammback.

RIP- Red '81 SX4, '84 4dr Sedan, '84 SW, '81 SW, '80 Spirit, '83 SW, '83 4dr Sedan

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Re: Where can I buy new viscous coupling for transfer case?
« Reply #54 on: October 26, 2011, 01:27:34 PM »
I have a 249 and several Eagle transfer cases sitting by their lonesome in my garage. I'll confirm once I get home in ten days from now.

Sounds good, can't wait to hear from you.

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Re: Where can I buy new viscous coupling for transfer case?
« Reply #55 on: October 26, 2011, 01:51:54 PM »
Last time home I was comparing a 231, the 242, and an Eagle transfer case. The rear case half had a different bolt pattern on one and the same pattern on the other, tho for the life of me I can't remember if it was the 242 or the 231 that matched the Eagle case. The 242 and 249 are externally identical. I've read that some Cherokee owner was using the rear half of an Eagle transfer case as a cheap shift yoke eliminator kit on a New Process low range case with the same case bolt pattern. I used to think it was a 231 but I'm pretty sure it was the 231 that was different. This link mentions it briefly as a combination of a 119 and a 229. I can't find the other reference. On my red SX4's NP242 I just unbolted the long Jeep front driveshaft yoke and bolted the original Eagle yoke in its place.

http://www.n0kfb.org/homepage/amc/tech/transfer_case/swap/

My dream is to use the rear half of a 119 case with stock Eagle output yoke, with a 249 viscous coupling, a 242 front half with both viscous full time and locked part time 4wd, and a high pinion planetary upgrade like my Rubicon NP241OR has. I'll be dismantling all of them in a row for comparison to see if thats possible. I might even go looking for a 229 because the curiousity is killing me. While I'm dreaming I hope I can convert it to the lower crawl ratio unique to the 241OR.
« Last Edit: October 26, 2011, 01:59:02 PM by captspillane »
Currently Inspected and Insured as of Jan 2013:
-1985 Eagle Station Wagon 258 T5 Stickshift
-1980 Eagle Station Wagon 258 Auto Fuel-injected with GM TBI

Minor Repairs Underway:
-1982 Eagle SX4 258 T5
-1981 Kammback 2.5L Iron Duke T5

Restoration Efforts Near Completion:
-1982 SX4- 401 NV3550
-1983 SX4- 4.5 MPI NSG370 (6 Speed)

Restoration Efforts Underway:
-1985 SW- 4.0 MPI AX15
-1982 SX4- 4.0 AW4
-1981 SX4- SD33T NV4500 (Turbodiesel 5 speed)

Future Rescue Efforts- '85 Maroon SW, '87 Limited SW, '84 Limited SW, '87 4 door Sedan, '81 2 door Sedan, '88 White SW, '77 4 door Hornet, '74 2 door Hornet, '79 Spirit AMX, '81 Kammback.

RIP- Red '81 SX4, '84 4dr Sedan, '84 SW, '81 SW, '80 Spirit, '83 SW, '83 4dr Sedan

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Re: Where can I buy new viscous coupling for transfer case?
« Reply #56 on: October 26, 2011, 02:07:45 PM »
My dream is to use the rear half of a 119 case with stock Eagle output yoke, with a 249 viscous coupling, a 242 front half with both viscous full time and locked part time 4wd, and a high pinion planetary upgrade like my Rubicon NP241OR has. I'll be dismantling all of them in a row for comparison to see if thats possible. I might even go looking for a 229 because the curiousity is killing me. While I'm dreaming I hope I can convert it to the lower crawl ratio unique to the 241OR.

I only have a foggy idea what you're talking about, but sounds interesting.

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Re: Where can I buy new viscous coupling for transfer case?
« Reply #57 on: October 26, 2011, 02:22:28 PM »
Priya,
This might be a silly question, but have you tried any local transmission shops? If they can't source one, they might be able to instruct you on rebuilding it yourself or finding parts to rebuilt it with.

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Re: Where can I buy new viscous coupling for transfer case?
« Reply #58 on: October 26, 2011, 02:27:28 PM »
Priya,
This might be a silly question, but have you tried any local transmission shops? If they can't source one, they might be able to instruct you on rebuilding it yourself or finding parts to rebuilt it with.

To be honest, no I haven't, I just assumed (perhaps incorrectly) that they wouldn't have, or couldn't get one or that the price would be unreasonable.  I asked my husband if he knew who in town would have or be able to get such a unit and he didn't have any idea off the top of his head so I didn't pursue it further.
I'm going to check into that now that you mention it.

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Re: Where can I buy new viscous coupling for transfer case?
« Reply #59 on: October 26, 2011, 02:45:15 PM »
You found the exact spot. "shopping" is the first word, directly above "translate books finance scholar." Every time I look for it I can't find it at first too because shopping hides in plain sight right at the top.

When I click on it the first word is "translate", there is no "shopping".

It has been in a different spot several times for me.  Not that it matters too much for this since it doesn't find anything for a 129 coupler, but the address is google.com/prdhp .  That is the product search that the "shopping" selection brings you to.
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