Let's see your Fog lights!!

[jim]

It's from a 79 Concord.  We once thought that it was a one-year one-model only grill but now I'm not sure that is actually the case.

[Prafeston]

Question. I'm wanting to get the Marchal OEM Fog Lights, but want to make sure I'm getting the right ones especially if I've got to pay the high price on these suckers. It seems they are the Marchal 750/759s that went on the Ford Mustang from '79-'86.

I'm also going to have to drill the holes in the bumper. I was feeling a little reluctant to do this at first, but I think as long as it's done right it will look original and I won't be worried about it. I was gonna ask if I could get measurements on where the holes should be located, but I believe my '80 Eagle has the holes in the bumper so I can do that myself.

Thanks for posting up all these Fog lights. It's cool to see all the variations.

[SpiritGTMan]

Question. I'm wanting to get the Marchal OEM Fog Lights, but want to make sure I'm getting the right ones especially if I've got to pay the high price on these suckers. It seems they are the Marchal 750/759s that went on the Ford Mustang from '79-'86.

I'm also going to have to drill the holes in the bumper. I was feeling a little reluctant to do this at first, but I think as long as it's done right it will look original and I won't be worried about it. I was gonna ask if I could get measurements on where the holes should be located, but I believe my '80 Eagle has the holes in the bumper so I can do that myself.

Thanks for posting up all these Fog lights. It's cool to see all the variations.

Me too!  How far from end of bumper to center of hole, how far from back of bumper to center of hole, and how big is the hole diameter?

You are correct, it is the SEV Marchal 750.  The whole kit includes wiring, relay, and special dash mount switch.  Darn these Ford guys driving the prices up!

[Prafeston]

SpiritGTMan,

I'll try to get these measurements for us on Friday...possibly Wed. or Thurs. after work.

[Prafeston]

Ok, I had some time before work today so I headed over to my dad's where Threepete is stored and took some measurements. THESE MEASUREMENTS ARE FROM A 1980 EAGLE. I'm not sure if bumper end caps or bumper protectors on later models are in the same place. I'd say the best measurement to go by is headlight trim to hole and then the hole to hole measurements. As long as it's all centered on the bumper it should be fine.

1. Bumper End Cap to middle of hole - 18 11/16"
2. Engine side of bumper to middle of hole - 1 3/4"
3. Front of bumper to middle of hole - 1 3/8"
4. Headlight trim to middle of hole - 2 15/16"
5. Bumper Protector to middle of hole - 6 5/16"
6. Hole to Hole from the middles - 21 3/4"

I hope this photo isn't too confusing. I tried to show each measurement on one photo. You'll notice there is no headlight trim in the photo...I stupidly took the photo before I prepared to measure. I did put the trim on and take that chain off so the measurements should be correct.

[SpiritGTMan]

  WOW!!!   That is absolutely what I was hoping for!  THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!
I'm sure this will be the go-to reference for people doing this project for years to come!
You rock, Prafeston!!!!

I just assume that Eagle/Spirit/Concord all used the same bumper but you're right, they could very easily have changed along the way or had slightly different measurements for different models, etc.  You have provided several reference points to make absolutely sure it is right!  Very smart, sir.

Now we just have to keep our fingers crossed that those are factory holes, and not something somebody else did later on!  If Threepete has the Marchal foglight wiring and switch mounted correctly to the left of the gauges in the dash, that is good enough verification for me!

One other thing I might ask, the diameter of the hole.  Probably just big enough to be a proper hole for the foglight mounting stud, but if I'm going to do this I want to do it right. 

Once again, you completely rule and thank you very much!
Chad

[SpiritGTMan]

I ran across this mustang forum thread in my Marchal research.  Seems to be just about everything you might want to know on the subject.

http://vb.foureyedpride.com/showthread.php?t=108215

[Prafeston]

Yeah I tried to measure from everything I could. I'll double check for the wiring harness and switch.

[carnuck]

Too dark and I moved while taking it. Will get more this week or next when the car is finally finished!

My '77 AMX (bent frame from too many Dukes of Hazard jumps by previous owner. 304 Motor went into my '73 J4000 for almost 10 years)

[Prafeston]

Well I went and checked on Freeagle and I didn't see the stock fog light switch or even a hole where one should be. So these holes for the fog lights may not be stock. Might be good to have someone who knows they have the stock fogs do these same measurements.

[SpiritGTMan]

Hmmmmm......

[Prafeston]

Judging by the photo carnuck has of his fog lights the holes on Freeagle look a little wider. On carnuck's the fogs seem much closer to the license plate and much farther away from the headlight trim.

[maddog]

i'm off work tomarrow so i can meassure the ones on Survivor.

[standup650]

I like mudkickers round lights on that black eagle. the local big rig shop has some like them. they come with 50w bulbs but you can buy 100w replacement bulbs. I've also been thinking about changing my main lights to dual round on the old wagon.

[DaemonForce]

Anyway you could check out the "Show me your fog lights" thread. We need some measurements for where the holes are drilled in the bumper. That's assuming your fog lights were stock.

I have two front bumpers. One is for work and testing. The other is for show. Both are aluminum. I recently undid my fog lights to eliminate an electrical issue and to do drilling measurements on a pre-Setina brushguard for front+bottom securing.

Bumper length: 53.25"
Guard length: 24.25"
Guard centering from ends: 14.5"
Foglight distance from ends: 18.5"

So you see there I have 2" of overlap on each foglamp and since they're round they bulk out and they're in the way. They have to go. I'm more than likely going to scrap this project if I can't get a welder. I'll just make new measurements and machine a new bumper. (´・ω・｀)