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Rear Spring Lift

Started by Gil-SX4, May 29, 2004, 01:26:17 AM

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blistovmhz

huzzah for that.
I'm still adding a 3/4" flat spring and a 1/4" x 43" long x 8" depth, to my rears.
I think thats the point where 1. I need to install new brake lines because they won't reach the axle, and 2. i should start looking at some sort of side stabelization.

Hokie Eagle

Quote from: blistovmhz on November 28, 2006, 05:42:53 PM
I added that 3/4 ton suburban set, with custom top leafs, lifting the back from about 4" below stock height to about 5" above, and I have no problems.
(someone correct me if i'm horribly mistaken)

Do you have any pictures of that rear end sitting up that high?
Current:                         Past:
1985 Eagle Wagon            1978 Dodge Omni
2004 Pontiac Vibe             1988 Nissan Sentra
                                      1988 Olds 98 Regency
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                                      1984 Eagle Wagon       

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blistovmhz

Not yet.  And it doesn't look terribly impressive with the stock wheels, but i can get a few shots up tonight.
Like i said, I still have that 3/4 flat spring and one more curved to put on.

87EagleHO

Jeep Cherokees (XJ) use the same springs in the back (in size at least, spring rate is probably different, but should be close). There are many companies that sell lift springs for Cherokees, so there is lots to choose from.

Problem with add-a-leafs is that they are supporting your old leafs, so they will sag out much quicker than a whole new leaf pack. It is a cheap way to get lift though.

blistovmhz

Besides which, you can get a new set of leafs, fabricated to spec, for about $350 CAN at any decent spring shop.
They also have some way cool new designs that minimize side sway and reduce spingback (slows spring recoil).

siguy8

I was quoted $375 for a brand new set (that they make) specifically for my SX/4. I went for the $75 Add-A-Leafs. Actually I got $115 Rancho Add-A-Leafs for $75 because of a complication. I would always recommend Woody's 4X4 in Vancouver, WA...

blistovmhz

Well lookitthat, something is cheaper in Canada !  Huzzah.
I think looking back at this whole lift now, I should have just gone with a whole set, custom fabricated from the beginning.
Would have saved me a lot of money in both the short and long term.

Ggugvuntt

Can anyone tell me if cherokee springs will work? I've heard the bushings don't work; also will stock cherokee springs add lift or not? While trying to replace my rear springs I've found that rough country has springs bundles for cherokee's that lift from 2-4 inches. Instead of replacing my springs then buying an add a leaf, I'd really like to simply order these springs; but need to know if they'll work - and how much lift I will gain; don't want too much.

Thanks.

siguy8

I can't answer your question, but I have another one to add. What would the part number be for the spacers that would go on the front coils? I want to level my sx/4 out now that the rear is up so high. May be this goes in a different topic.

leftover

Glad I found this post my rears are sagging to the point an alignment was hurting.  Saw eagle88, I believe, used a pickup helper spring.  I found someone in Texas selling them on e-bay for 49.96(included shipping) to my home, saved my real tight budget for now.

Bird-o-Prey

I believe that somewhere in one of these threads, the answer to the Cherokee spring question is...Yes, but, you have to remember to change the shackles and the bushings too.  Because, I believe the Cherokee springs are a bit wider that the AMC springs.  However, they are the same length.  I hope this helps.  Doug or Gil or anyone who has more experience, please feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

Cheers
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IowaEagle

IIRC the front bushing size is the main difference.
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1982 Eagle SX/4 Sport;
1980 Concord DL;
1970 Ambassador 2 Dr HT, SST
2002 Hyundai Santa Fe;
2008 Jeep Patriot Sport - Freedom Drive II

AMCFAN

I got my engine, trans, t-case, etc. from someone here on the site (I'll have to remember his username) and he's building a BIG Eagle. He used Cherokee rear springs and did something with the shackles and such. Worked pretty great and the back was TALL after that. He's going with a V8 and the front is getting a solid axle, so everything up front is being fabbed, but the Cherokee springs in the rear looked pretty easy to do. I'll have to find out more info and try to get some pics.
1967 Rebel conv (290/auto)
1969 Javelin SST (390/auto)
1971 Hornet SC/360 (360/auto)
1977 Matador coupe (304/auto)
1978 Concord D/L 2 dr (416/auto)
1983 Spirit D/L (no eng/trans)
All this, plus 2 parts cars.
Most need restoration, but at least two are usually running/driving. Not right now, mind you...

Mechanic

In addition to all of these extra leaf endeavors you can also get very decent coil overs for the Eagle. I have a pair on mine now and my car was raised 4 inches from what it was sitting before, not to mention it was stiffened up a fair bit (but not to much, still got the big boat ride). Fairly cheap to, I think 200 dollars CND was what I paid for them, and you can get them from Napa.
If anyone is interested I could get parts numbers for these as well.
2000 Toyota 4runner 221,000 k's (DD)
1997 Chevy S10 180,000 k's (Project car)
1988 Mazda RX-7 248,000 k's (For Sale)
1984 AMC Eagle Wagon 192,000 k's (Project car)
1981 AMC Eagle SX/4 65,000 k's (Restoration Project)
1981 AMC Eagle SX/4 140,000 k's (Trail build)
1981 Chevy Camaro Burlineta 134,000 K's (Performance build)
1977 Ford F350 Dually with dump (farm truck project)

KevinCoughlin

I have been getting into my SX/4 to find out what needs to be done to make a good winter car/fun toy. The back springs were old and typically saggy. Turns out one of the rear leafs was broken. Guess that new spring set is going to be needed..... although I'm curious about a coil over conversion - I'm not afraid to weld on the car - I just don't necessarily know how much I need to fabricate to get the linkages right. Guess I need to do some more reading!

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