News: Putting FUN and FRIENDLINESS, FIRST into owning and learning about AMC small bodied cars, primarily Eagles, Spirits and Concords as well as vehicles built in AMC's Mexican subsidiary, VAM.

The AMC Eaglepedia can now be accessed using the buttons found below  This is a comprehensive ever growing archive of information, tips, diagrams, manuals, etc. for the AMC Eagle and other small bodied AMC cars. 

Also a button is now available for our Face Book Group page.


Welcome to the AMC Eagles Nest.  A new site under "old" management -- so welcome to your new home for everything related to AMC Eagles, Spirits and Concords along with opportunities to interact with other AMC'ers.  This site will soon be evolving to look different than it has and we will be incorporating new features we hope you will find useful, entertaining and expand your AMC horizons.

You can now promote your topics at your favorite social media site by clicking on the appropriate icon (top upper right of the page) while viewing the topic you wish to promote.


  • November 23, 2024, 03:15:08 PM

Login with username, password and session length

Author Topic: 4.0 head swap EGR question  (Read 7194 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline monsterbronc

  • Eagle Limited
  • *****
  • Posts: 573
  • Thumbs Up 23
  • Quicksand!, What quicksand?
4.0 head swap EGR question
« on: September 28, 2011, 12:30:03 PM »
I'm rather unfamiliar with the 4.0 exhaust system, I haven't swapped heads yet nor have I located one, but I need one. Ive done research, Tim Weavers 4.0 swap guide is very useful, but it never addresses the EGR, nor do I see it in any of his photos. Mines plugged with a gob of epoxy, but its still installed and hooked up for inspections, it just doesn't do anything. I plan to use either the dual cast iron manifold or the header that goes three into two, then two into one so I can split it and have mean sounding duals on an inline (sounds like a big-block on some)

I'm not sure how or where the EGR will hook up when I combine the stock 258 intake with the 4.0 exhaust. I'm sure it has an EGR, I just dont know its set up. What did you other guys with 4.0 heads do?
2001 Subaru Outback (the official car of Co.)
1979 Bronco, hauler/crawler, (Monster)
2014 Invacare T7A, (my new legs/wheels)

possible future rig......
imagine an AMX  on a FSJ frame.....

There is nothing wrong with my legs, they just wont do a :censored: thing I tell them!

Offline eaglefreek

  • Moderators
  • AMC Eagles Den Addicted
  • *****
  • Posts: 4011
  • Thumbs Up 209
Re: 4.0 head swap EGR question
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2011, 12:52:45 PM »
91+ 4.0L don't have an EGR, I blocked mine at the intake.
1986 AMC Eagle Wagon 4.2L/4.0L head, AW4,NP242, Chrysler 8.25" rear.
1981 AMC Eagle Wagon As Seen On TV  Lost In Transmission


 

"I know he'd be a poorer man, if he never saw an eagle fly,
Rocky mountain high"  John Denver
Click for Fayetteville,TN Forecast" border="0" height="100" width="150

Offline mudkicker715

  • Administrator
  • AMC Eagles Den Addicted
  • ******
  • Posts: 3037
  • Thumbs Up 167
Re: 4.0 head swap EGR question
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2011, 12:59:00 PM »
Correct.

The duals sound awesome. Mine feed into cherry bombs.



Manitowoc WI

Offline amcinstaller

  • Installer, Mechanic, Who Knows.....
  • Eagle Sundaancer
  • ******
  • Posts: 1191
  • Thumbs Up 38
  • So That's Like A Cross Between A Pinto And A Vega?
Re: 4.0 head swap EGR question
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2011, 08:36:50 PM »
lol i was about to say, wheres the effin egr? never seen one on a jeep  :D
www.decibelcar.com
www.jeepstrokers.com
1980 AMC Spirit GT  Restomod In Progress
1998 Dodge Stratus  Boring DD With Loud DD Bass
Liquid Audio Styling and Sound
Red Deer, AB, Canada

Offline monsterbronc

  • Eagle Limited
  • *****
  • Posts: 573
  • Thumbs Up 23
  • Quicksand!, What quicksand?
Re: 4.0 head swap EGR question
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2011, 10:53:39 PM »
Hooray! down with smog pumps and EGR's everywhere
2001 Subaru Outback (the official car of Co.)
1979 Bronco, hauler/crawler, (Monster)
2014 Invacare T7A, (my new legs/wheels)

possible future rig......
imagine an AMX  on a FSJ frame.....

There is nothing wrong with my legs, they just wont do a :censored: thing I tell them!

Offline BenM

  • AMC Eagles Den Addicted
  • ********
  • Posts: 1512
  • Thumbs Up 74
  • Pittsburgh, PA
Re: 4.0 head swap EGR question
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2011, 02:59:04 PM »
The early non-HO engines (Renix) had a tube running from a bung on the exhaust manifold to the intake. Do an image search for "Renix exhaust manifold" and you'll get some pictures.

You could easily fab up a fake tube, and no one would be the wiser.
NSS#47184

1987 AMC Eagle Sedan -- 1976 Pacer Coupe -- 1968 Pontiac Tempest Custom S -- 1940 Mercury (& a 2002 Jetta Turbodiesel, 5 spd., the Wife's Daily Driver)

Offline monsterbronc

  • Eagle Limited
  • *****
  • Posts: 573
  • Thumbs Up 23
  • Quicksand!, What quicksand?
Re: 4.0 head swap EGR question
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2011, 11:19:11 AM »
You could easily fab up a fake tube, and no one would be the wiser.

Ah!, but I can also claim it an update to a 93 4.0 engine since that's what the head came off of, and unless they are a Jeep Guru, they wont know the wiser, and if they were, and did, they wouldn't say anything.  ;D
2001 Subaru Outback (the official car of Co.)
1979 Bronco, hauler/crawler, (Monster)
2014 Invacare T7A, (my new legs/wheels)

possible future rig......
imagine an AMX  on a FSJ frame.....

There is nothing wrong with my legs, they just wont do a :censored: thing I tell them!

Offline eaglefreek

  • Moderators
  • AMC Eagles Den Addicted
  • *****
  • Posts: 4011
  • Thumbs Up 209
Re: 4.0 head swap EGR question
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2011, 03:00:30 PM »
You could easily fab up a fake tube, and no one would be the wiser.

Ah!, but I can also claim it an update to a 93 4.0 engine since that's what the head came off of, and unless they are a Jeep Guru, they wont know the wiser, and if they were, and did, they wouldn't say anything.  ;D
Then you would have to meet the emission numbers of the 93 engine which may be a tougher to meet.
1986 AMC Eagle Wagon 4.2L/4.0L head, AW4,NP242, Chrysler 8.25" rear.
1981 AMC Eagle Wagon As Seen On TV  Lost In Transmission


 

"I know he'd be a poorer man, if he never saw an eagle fly,
Rocky mountain high"  John Denver
Click for Fayetteville,TN Forecast" border="0" height="100" width="150

Offline carnuck

  • Having a 727 means never re-doing the trans again
  • AMC Eagles Den Addicted
  • ********
  • Posts: 3451
  • Thumbs Up 89
  • Near Seattle
    • Virtual Jeep
Re: 4.0 head swap EGR question
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2011, 11:28:52 AM »
I'm getting ready to swap out my dead 998 (snapped converter neck) with NP129 for an AW4/NP242 combo. When I do the EFI swap, I'm not concerned about the emission issue, but the HO intake isn't supposed to fit next to the Eagle brake booster without mods. Anyone try yet?
AMC/Jeep gauges are for amusement only. Any correlation between them and reality is purely coincidental!

Offline monsterbronc

  • Eagle Limited
  • *****
  • Posts: 573
  • Thumbs Up 23
  • Quicksand!, What quicksand?
Re: 4.0 head swap EGR question
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2011, 10:09:52 PM »
Then you would have to meet the emission numbers of the 93 engine which may be a tougher to meet.

A valid concern for some, but since (A) Im not in an area that uses a sniffer, and (B) since Im running E-85 instead of unleaded, Ill pass with numbers so low they will think their machine is broken. so Im ok all around. But I am considering a HOT port injected mechanical fuel injection system that completely vaporizes the fuel instead of sprays it ( Ive been researching the 100 mpg car thing from the 50's and 60's, And I might have figured it out) But Im still wotrking on the flux capacitor, and cant quite reach 88 mph yet ;D
2001 Subaru Outback (the official car of Co.)
1979 Bronco, hauler/crawler, (Monster)
2014 Invacare T7A, (my new legs/wheels)

possible future rig......
imagine an AMX  on a FSJ frame.....

There is nothing wrong with my legs, they just wont do a :censored: thing I tell them!

Offline carguy87

  • Eagle DL
  • ***
  • Posts: 197
  • Thumbs Up 11
Re: 4.0 head swap EGR question
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2011, 08:48:00 AM »
The HO intake manifold WILL fit next to the brake booster.  I will tell you this though, it is easier to install both manifolds on the head or engine before you install it in the vehicle.  If for any reason you have to take the intake off in the car, remove the exhaust manifold too, or you will have a hard time getting it on the two mounting pins and risk tearing your gasket in the process.

 

SMF spam blocked by CleanTalk