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Re: Coil suggestion???
« Reply #30 on: August 14, 2012, 09:21:56 PM »
I think I asked for parts from a 1985 ford truck.  You need a cap, cap adapter, rotor, and plug wires.
That would be a 1985 Ford 6 cylinder.  The plug wires should be 8mm to carry the higher voltage from the upgraded coil.
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Re: Coil suggestion???
« Reply #31 on: August 14, 2012, 10:06:14 PM »
I have an 83 Eagle so to make it easy for me, I just ordered parts off a 1983 Ford F-150 with a 300 6 cylinder from Advance Auto's web site. No issues and all fit well (well except my choice of coil)
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Re: Coil suggestion???
« Reply #32 on: August 15, 2012, 05:18:10 PM »
ok thanks everyone, do i have to ask for the cap adaptor separate or is that off the ford as well?

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Re: Coil suggestion???
« Reply #33 on: August 15, 2012, 06:35:29 PM »
ok thanks everyone, do i have to ask for the cap adaptor separate or is that off the ford as well?

it would be off the same vehicle but its a separate part...
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Re: Coil suggestion???
« Reply #34 on: August 16, 2012, 12:27:42 PM »
It's not a wear and tear part so used ones are fine.
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Re: Coil suggestion???
« Reply #35 on: August 16, 2012, 08:31:19 PM »
yeah i found everything i need online pretty much now, besides the coil so far. thanks

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Re: Coil suggestion???
« Reply #36 on: August 16, 2012, 08:36:43 PM »
Resurrecting old thread as I have a question for TLC87Eagle. Is the part number for the coil you used 140207 and if so how is it holding up?

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Yepp, that's the part number, and I've had it almost a year now and put about 6,000 miles on it, and it's run perfectly fine and even seemed to help out the gas mileage as well. I'd recommend putting the larger Ford 300 distributor with it too, to keep the hotter spark from cross-firing in the cap. Stock plugs gaped 0.045 work just fine.


Maybe next tune-up I may try those E3 plugs to see if they make any difference or if it's just a gimmick.


Should i get the Petronix or this the accel? do you have to bypass the resistor with the accel like you do the other one?

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Re: Coil suggestion???
« Reply #37 on: August 16, 2012, 08:43:46 PM »
sorry to be so bothersome  :-X but i dont need to retime the engine or anything after this do i? This stuff is all new to me, Im 22 so all this timing and carb stuff is way past my time haha  :newbie:

Im trying though, lots of shop manuals and books. and of course all of you  ;D

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Re: Coil suggestion???
« Reply #38 on: August 16, 2012, 09:10:49 PM »
Resurrecting old thread as I have a question for TLC87Eagle. Is the part number for the coil you used 140207 and if so how is it holding up?

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Yepp, that's the part number, and I've had it almost a year now and put about 6,000 miles on it, and it's run perfectly fine and even seemed to help out the gas mileage as well. I'd recommend putting the larger Ford 300 distributor with it too, to keep the hotter spark from cross-firing in the cap. Stock plugs gaped 0.045 work just fine.


Maybe next tune-up I may try those E3 plugs to see if they make any difference or if it's just a gimmick.


Should i get the Petronix or this the accel? do you have to bypass the resistor with the accel like you do the other one?

I would stay away from the accel. The PN 140207 is "supposed" to be a OEM fit and use the OEM coil connector (and leaves the orginal resistive wire in place). It didnt on mine. Read the previous posts but the coils physical specs are different than the orginal coil.
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Re: Coil suggestion???
« Reply #39 on: August 19, 2012, 12:30:20 AM »
screw on or clip on cap from the ford 300?

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Re: Coil suggestion???
« Reply #40 on: November 20, 2012, 12:56:17 PM »
tried out the Accel 8140c

i have the original ICM (with AMC logo) and this coil causes issues wherein the car would run great for about 15 minutes then it starts to sputter and stall. lets the car sit for a few minutes then it would run great for another 10-15 minutes and sputter and stall out...

 - guessing that the 1.2 OHM resistance of this new coil (compared to 1.4 OHM of stock) is just enough to cause the original AMC ICM to freak out?

went back to stock coil and no issues yet.

going to try a new off the shelf ICM with that coil and see if it can handle it, if no luck there then ditching that coil and will try out the Accel - Ford Ignition Coil Part Number: 140207 which has 1.4 OHM and see how that does.

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Re: Coil suggestion???
« Reply #41 on: November 20, 2012, 02:28:43 PM »

going to try a new off the shelf ICM with that coil and see if it can handle it, if no luck there then ditching that coil and will try out the Accel - Ford Ignition Coil Part Number: 140207 which has 1.4 OHM and see how that does.


If you go with the 140207, before you go through the work of removing the old one, test fit the horseshoe connector to the Accel coil first. If its anything like the one I have on my desk being used as a paperweight the connector won't seat correctly. One guy in this thread said his fit but mine wouldn't. The lip around the coil is too thick, the contacts are slightly wider and taller than the OEM coil. I grabbed a connector off a truck at the local pick and pull and modified it extensively to get it to seat correctly.
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Re: Coil suggestion???
« Reply #42 on: November 24, 2012, 02:20:38 AM »
got it in today, also got a new u connector for the coil, not a perfect fit but it does work and seems pretty tight. coil and computer work together well and major performance difference compared to from stock coil... no problems yet


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Re: Coil suggestion???
« Reply #43 on: November 24, 2012, 09:03:27 PM »
got it in today, also got a new u connector for the coil, not a perfect fit but it does work and seems pretty tight. coil and computer work together well and major performance difference compared to from stock coil... no problems yet

Yeah, the collar is not a perfect fit, but I managed to get mine on with the stock collar using just a little bit of force. Actually makes for a tight fit. Good thing you got a new ICM too, cause those sounded like symptoms of your ICM failing. Mine did the same thing just before it completely failed, but I didn't take the warning signs. Good thing I always carry a spare in the back with me.
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