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Offline mr.mindless

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No vacuum to cruise
« on: February 15, 2012, 11:10:55 PM »
One of the few non-operational items on the bird just dubbed Saint Michael tonight is the cruise control.  I found what I assume to be the cruise module over low on the rear of the passenger inner fender, below a vacuum canister there.  I popped a vacuum line off of it at idle and felt nothing at all on it.  It's a very hard line to trace across the cowl area, but it appears to turn inside the cabin at the top of the firewall roughly in front of the steering column?? That just seems downright odd.

I quickly learned that AMC seem to have been huge fans of vacuum solenoids, so I'm wondering if not seeing vacuum there is a sure sign of a root cause or not.

As for the general health of the system, I found and fixed one broken line from the first time I pulled the air cleaner base off.  I since learned the trick to doing that right with disconnecting the cold air duct and setting it on the valve cover without straining any of its lines. The only other possibly related symptom I can think of is HVAC temperature control seems to be on the warm side. Even driving at speed in 30 degree F temps, the air coming out was warm all the way on the cold side of the dial. Vent selection works, EGR works, brake assist works, I don't hear any other massive leaks.

Any suggestions or tips appreciated. Thanks.
Michael Maskalans
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Offline carnuck

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Re: No vacuum to cruise
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2012, 01:41:53 PM »
There is only vacuum at speed with the cruise turned on. Make sure the vacuum pig is hooked up!
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Offline mr.mindless

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Re: No vacuum to cruise
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2012, 02:37:42 PM »
the large manifold on top of the valve cover? nothing broken, I'll pull a line off and make sure there's source to it...
Michael Maskalans
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'97 Ram 3500 - 13sp RoadRanger

'87 Eagle Wagon 258/auto "Saint Michael" - Daily driver status.
'84 Eagle Wagon 258/auto "Swamp Thing" - project in need of a bath
'84 Eagle Wagon 258/4sp - parts car

Offline BenM

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Re: No vacuum to cruise
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2012, 04:37:21 PM »
I believe the hose going into the cabin is the brake cancel. There should be a second hose to the canister and from there to the intake manifold.
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Offline mr.mindless

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Re: No vacuum to cruise
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2012, 05:08:44 PM »
I think I'm going to end up taking some things apart just to be able to see what I'm tracing, just like having to pull belts to see timing marks....


I found the diagrams in eaglepedia, I think I lost the vacuum line and started following the 6 wire bundle that runs through the bulkhead to the switches.
http://www.amceaglesnest.com/~iowaeagl/guide/index.php?title=Cruise_Command
« Last Edit: May 09, 2021, 03:25:46 PM by Taylor »
Michael Maskalans
Codriver, Game Day Racing - Ultra4 #571
'98 Dakota - tons & 42s
'97 Ram 3500 - 13sp RoadRanger

'87 Eagle Wagon 258/auto "Saint Michael" - Daily driver status.
'84 Eagle Wagon 258/auto "Swamp Thing" - project in need of a bath
'84 Eagle Wagon 258/4sp - parts car

 

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