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The Mighty 258 => The Engine => Topic started by: Pat on June 12, 2014, 12:16:20 PM

Title: Oil leak
Post by: Pat on June 12, 2014, 12:16:20 PM
Okay, this is for Bleep, but these NoPar 40s are basically the same thing as the AMC 258s, right? I've got a leak at the oil filter. It's NOT the filter itself, & it's NOT the gasket where the filter screws on (been there, done that a couple times). Tried 'The Zone' no pictures/breakdowns. The only thing they list is an 'O'-ring between the engine & the filter mount. Not that I don't trust The Zone (yeah, right), I just wanna know IF that's all there is or is there supposed to be more (gasket, whatever)? That just doesn't seem right to me, with just that 'O'-ring sealing it. IF anybody has a drawing &/or first hand knowledge please??
Title: Re: Oil leak
Post by: carnuck on June 12, 2014, 01:24:49 PM
2 O rings. I didn't do mine because I had no place to do it but a Jeep shop charged me $75 about 8 years ago. I had the oil pressure sender crack on my Mexican stroker motor and it only sprayed at RPM so we couldn't tell where it was coming from.
Title: Re: Oil leak
Post by: Pat on June 12, 2014, 01:34:30 PM
Thanks Carnuck, I DEFINITELY need to look at a picture now. The Zone only gave me 1 "O"-ring, huge thing, looks like it'd almost fit over the oil filter. I MIGHT have a picture of a 258 here somewhere, hafta look. IF I do, is this 40 the same?

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Just found my book, not that much detail. Doesn't even show gaskets/seals period. IF anybody can post a diagram of that up please??
Title: Re: Oil leak
Post by: carnuck on June 12, 2014, 01:52:57 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/121292191126?lpid=82
Title: Re: Oil leak
Post by: Pat on June 12, 2014, 02:25:37 PM
THREE of them??? All The Zone gave me was the one big one!! Wonder where I can get the other two?
Title: Re: Oil leak
Post by: BenM on June 12, 2014, 02:49:44 PM
AMC changed around 86-87 to a check valve in the filter itself. Filters up to '86 were shared with many GM cars. For a few years after the switch they were metric filters to prevent confusion. Finally, Chrysler switched to one of their common filters with standard threads.

I don't know offhand what other differences there are in the filter adapters, but it's something to be aware of.
Title: Re: Oil leak
Post by: mudkicker715 on June 12, 2014, 06:05:20 PM
I only replaced the big one when i did mine. Problem solved. Also that was on my stroker in the avatar picture.
Title: Re: Oil leak
Post by: carnuck on June 12, 2014, 06:35:05 PM
It allows pressure to bypass the oil filter if you don't do them all.
Title: Re: Oil leak
Post by: Pat on June 12, 2014, 06:40:33 PM
So y'all don't think I need to worry about the other two? Just do the big one & hope for the best?
Title: Re: Oil leak
Post by: carnuck on June 12, 2014, 07:07:08 PM
It'll stop the leak
Title: Re: Oil leak
Post by: Pat on June 12, 2014, 08:31:01 PM
Excellent!!! That's what I wanna do. Thanks again Carnuck. I was expecting a gasket or a little more than just that 'O'-ring. Just didn't seem like enough to seal it.
Title: Re: Oil leak
Post by: DAVE on June 13, 2014, 08:50:54 AM
I did the autozone "o" rings on my grand a year later leaked worse than before went with mopar now cost more but had a tighter fit on initial install hopefully this will last
Title: Re: Oil leak
Post by: carnuck on June 13, 2014, 01:03:03 PM
Most shops will only use the Dealer ones.

(I got the posted less than 50 seconds ago warning. Haven't seen THAT in a long time!)