Howdy all,
Bought a 94 Cherokee (XJ) for the drive train and I want to haul off as many parts as I can for the Eagle. The XJ is pretty gutted but I do know there are some things that can carry over.
Parts that come to mind quickly that can be used are :
wiper arms
steering box for a better turning radius?
steering wheel
Some Cherokees have the overhead console that can be modified slightly to work in an Eagle. They are more common in the Grand Cherokees though.
I think this one did but it looks like it was taken out.
Just to clarify, you won't get a better turning radius with the XJ box. Just tighter feeling steering.
That's what I want. ZJ has the better steering box, I think, of them all. Don't have to twist the steering wheel 400 rotations to do a corner.
Can the whole steering column be used do you know? I kind of want the steering wheel since it feels better in my hands, but I might go loot a junkyard for one that is color matched and not worn to snot.
I'm not sure about the length, but the wiper switch and high beam are on the XJ column. It has no rag joint after '86 so it feels tighter. Also, it has a slip joint in the middle of newer ones to adjust length. I have a spare grey Comanche column shift one for AW4 with tilt, cruise, etc.
There are a few little things, but some I'm not positive about. I only had an XJ for a few months.
If you have the pushbutton hatch opener, I think that carries on from Gremlin/Pacer/Kammback hatches. I half think the cluster is the same dimensions. I have suspicions the HVAC controls swap.
Keep the rear springs, if you rebuild the leaves with the Eagle top leaf you get a lift. The circuit for the rear defogger is like the early push button AMC Car circuits; before the toggle switch was used.
I know Wagoneer speaker grilles are the same, but I don't know about XJ ones.
Does the xj steering column fit into an Eagle? Mine squeals when I turn....pretty annoying.
Also would like to keep the cruise control from the Cherokee. What would I need to do to keep that, splice in the wiring or just swap the steering column?
Not sure on the length, but only the turn signal is the same wiring. The squeal is the horn contact scraping dry brass. Pull the steering wheel and lube it.
Any idea if the steering column from the XJ will fit in the Eagle?
Quote from: Nightpath on October 01, 2014, 08:10:57 PM
Any idea if the steering column from the XJ will fit in the Eagle?
I just went through a steering column rebuild/ repair on an 89 Wrangler. I used a column from an Eagle, and found out that it is a different length. I ended up just using the parts from the dash to the wheel (collar, switch housing, internal parts). All of this should be the same. The mast jacket and the shaft are (or maybe better said "may be") different lengths, so just the outer parts will carry over. There is a good chance that the shaft is different as well where it connects to the U-joint.....Rich
The XJ column won't fit the Wrangler jeeps at all, neither will the Eagles fit the Wranglers.
The Eagle ones were based off GM, Chrysler used the same design for a while so that's what makes me wonder if the Eagle and XJ will interchange.
XJ ones have a slip joint in the middle.
This slip joint causes it not to fit properly? Or can it be replaced with a part off the Eagle column?
Or am I able to take the electronics (basically the headlight / cruise control / etc) parts off of the XJ and put them on the Eagle?
2 weeks till I get into this swap!
Quote from: Nightpath on October 02, 2014, 07:11:56 AM
This slip joint causes it not to fit properly? Or can it be replaced with a part off the Eagle column?
Or am I able to take the electronics (basically the headlight / cruise control / etc) parts off of the XJ and put them on the Eagle?
2 weeks till I get into this swap!
If the XJ has a GM steering column, then yes the parts should cross over. Everything else (jacket, shaft etc) should be different (been there, done that).
So if it has a GM column (which I think stopped in 90/91) it should fit. Any idea if the 1994 XJ would have the GM column?
The main thing that I need to look at are the switches and :censored: that on the XJ compared to the Eagle. I'm not sure if any of it will cross over to be compatible.
If the ignition slider is in the same place, it's the good Delco style. I was helping someone yesterday who had the switch inside the upper part of the column (99 XJ) that was all busted up by tweakers trying to steal her Jeep.
I'm going to snag some pictures of it soon. Easiest thing to do, then I'll know.
OK, here are a few image thumbs. XJ will be on the top, Eagle on the bottom
XJ inside the engine area :
(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k78/nightpath/1986%20AMC%20Eagle/th_20141003_192226_zpsb3e9cd02.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/nightpath/media/1986%20AMC%20Eagle/20141003_192226_zpsb3e9cd02.jpg.html)
Eagle
(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k78/nightpath/1986%20AMC%20Eagle/th_20141003_181714_zps6e7002bb.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/nightpath/media/1986%20AMC%20Eagle/20141003_181714_zps6e7002bb.jpg.html)
XJ Column base
(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k78/nightpath/1986%20AMC%20Eagle/th_20141003_192148_zps794d2e08.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/nightpath/media/1986%20AMC%20Eagle/20141003_192148_zps794d2e08.jpg.html)
Eagle
(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k78/nightpath/1986%20AMC%20Eagle/th_20141003_181748_zps57e281f4.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/nightpath/media/1986%20AMC%20Eagle/20141003_181748_zps57e281f4.jpg.html)
XJ Key
(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k78/nightpath/1986%20AMC%20Eagle/th_20141003_192134_zps62041748.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/nightpath/media/1986%20AMC%20Eagle/20141003_192134_zps62041748.jpg.html)
Eagle
(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k78/nightpath/1986%20AMC%20Eagle/th_20141003_181815_zpsbeb3e8c2.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/nightpath/media/1986%20AMC%20Eagle/20141003_181815_zpsbeb3e8c2.jpg.html)
XJ Column
(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k78/nightpath/1986%20AMC%20Eagle/th_20141003_192121_zps206b86c2.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/nightpath/media/1986%20AMC%20Eagle/20141003_192121_zps206b86c2.jpg.html)
Eagle
(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k78/nightpath/1986%20AMC%20Eagle/th_20141003_181807_zps08afd8ca.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/nightpath/media/1986%20AMC%20Eagle/20141003_181807_zps08afd8ca.jpg.html)
Although I haven't checked to be 100% sure, this looks a lot like I remember hte Eagle connector looking :
XJ
(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k78/nightpath/1986%20AMC%20Eagle/th_20141001_210817_zps6633cfd3.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/nightpath/media/1986%20AMC%20Eagle/20141001_210817_zps6633cfd3.jpg.html)
Here's a connector, they look identical
XJ
(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k78/nightpath/1986%20AMC%20Eagle/th_20141003_221414_zps2d940700.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/nightpath/media/1986%20AMC%20Eagle/20141003_221414_zps2d940700.jpg.html)
Eagle
(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k78/nightpath/1986%20AMC%20Eagle/th_20141003_181754_zps5592d045.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/nightpath/media/1986%20AMC%20Eagle/20141003_181754_zps5592d045.jpg.html)
Me having fun
(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k78/nightpath/1986%20AMC%20Eagle/th_20140915_170502_zpsacf2c192.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/nightpath/media/1986%20AMC%20Eagle/20140915_170502_zpsacf2c192.jpg.html)
I'm going to have to say that mid 1994-95 was the changing point for totally going the Chrysler model steering column.
W00t w00t
If someone near Seattle has an Eagle column out we can match up, I have one from a Comanche I parted (column shift AW4).
In those pics I have the 2 side by side. To is the pics from the 94 XJ, bottom is the Eagle.
XJ is blue
Eagle is tan
Look at the turn signal plug and wire colors. You don't need to worry about the wipers and headlights as yours were still on the dash.
Also look up the ignition switch part number. If one is tilt and the other isn't, look at the non-tilt part number to match. If it does, you're good to go. The tilt switch is reversed to the non-tilt switch but the wiring plug is the same.
Both are tilt.
Starting to look like they're a match and I'll be able to do a direct swap.
If they are the same, are you planning to use the entire unit or just parts? The reason I ask is, taking apart a steering column is a big job. There are pins in the side of the tilt mechanism that are not easy to pull sometimes. Also, the tilt spring needs to be removed (CCW with a philips screwdriver pushing in and turning) before pulling the pins. If you are removing everything including the collar down to the mast jacket, you are in for a big job. If you have not done it before, you can easily get discouraged. However, I am sure there is a youtube video for it (if there is not a youtube video for something you want to do, it is not worth doing ;D). If the shafts are different, the entire thing has to come apart anyway to pull the shaft out. I wish you luck on this project.....Rich
Only part I can see that is a bit different is the 1st pic. The Eagle part looks like a solid piece, the XJ looks like it's able to pivot. Either way, I bet I can make it work.
I am using the XJ steering box and power steering as well. Just about everything connected to the XJ is finding it's way into the Eagle. That includes the in-car wiring (besides speakers and lights).
Oh, I plan on using the whole XJ column. I can't see any reason why it won't fit into the Eagle.
Possibly too long.