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The Shop => Body Shop => Topic started by: rybaczewski on March 11, 2014, 04:27:14 AM

Title: Floorboards
Post by: rybaczewski on March 11, 2014, 04:27:14 AM
I own a 1984 Wagon.  I am disabled and unable to do much of anything to my car.  The other day a flap of metal was seen hanging near the left front tire.  I got into the car and could see the driveway through the driver's side floor when the carpet was pulled back.  What should I do?  Have the patch put back or have new floors put on.  I'm gonna need a new engine, new door seals, new carpet, new headliner, new gas tank and sending unit, and the front seat fixed too.  Should I start the project or sell it now?  Just asking.
Title: Re: Floorboards
Post by: IowaEagle on March 11, 2014, 09:27:40 AM
You really need to see what other rust might be lurking under your car to determine if it can be salvaged.
Title: Re: Floorboards
Post by: priya on March 11, 2014, 12:20:43 PM
If your goal is to get a sound vehicle on the road for the lowest cost I'd say sell it and have a knowledgeable person help you find a used car in good shape.  From the sounds of things it would cost much more to get that car back into good shape than it would to buy a car that's already in good shape.

If you're fond of that car in particular then maybe its still a worthwhile project but as Iowaeagle says you need to find out the extent of the rust.  Its almost always quite a bit worse than it looks at first.
Title: Re: Floorboards
Post by: rybaczewski on March 24, 2014, 07:09:06 AM
I was out of town last week and stopped into a shop to see if they could patch the hole.  I was just told that my frame is rotted - and they (the mechanics) had problems finding a spot to put it on their lift.  Funny - three places here in town here had no problems like that at all - and it's been up and down on a lift many times. 

I don't need a perfect car - just one to drive that's safe.  If the hole can be patched, I'll be happy (just add oil!)  So I ask - do frames rot?  There's only 135,000 on the car and unless he left it parked in salt water, I have a sneaky suspicion the frame is ok.
Title: Re: Floorboards
Post by: Prafeston on March 24, 2014, 12:27:07 PM
The frames are a very bad rusting point on these cars.

Here are two extremely bad examples from Facebook.

This one caused a complete failure to the front end components and is now a parts car.
(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/t1.0-9/q80/s720x720/1176406_691907280831679_1232919360_n.jpg)

This one looks about beyond repair too.
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t31.0-8/q80/s720x720/1462760_680360345347323_135915612_o.jpg)

They frame tends to start rusting out just rear of the front wheels. You can easily check those areas yourself and see if you are developing holes.
Title: Re: Floorboards
Post by: MudPuppy on March 24, 2014, 01:58:40 PM
If you could get it on a lift and post up some pictures here. These guys/gals would be able to tell one way or another that way.


Here's some ugliness from The Mamba...
(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w169/chantel5/1981%20Eagle%20SX4-%20the%20Mamba/floor2_zpsae9cfbfd.jpg) (http://s176.photobucket.com/user/chantel5/media/1981%20Eagle%20SX4-%20the%20Mamba/floor2_zpsae9cfbfd.jpg.html)
(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w169/chantel5/1981%20Eagle%20SX4-%20the%20Mamba/floor_zps344cb9f9.jpg) (http://s176.photobucket.com/user/chantel5/media/1981%20Eagle%20SX4-%20the%20Mamba/floor_zps344cb9f9.jpg.html)