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Title: filling her up
Post by: youngkyle on November 20, 2013, 12:56:07 PM
So I was reading this thread that was on to the conversation of full and self serve gas stations and one guy said something about he warned the attendant not to hold down something all the way, or else he'd get sprayed with gas. I know the cap is behind the license plate, but what is he talking about? I don't want to seem like a fool Te first time I fill her up!
Title: Re: filling her up
Post by: Prafeston on November 20, 2013, 01:37:01 PM
No idea. I never had an issue with my Eagle. Put in the pump put it on auto and walk away. Take it out when it clicks. Never had it spill out on me..
Title: Re: filling her up
Post by: IowaEagle on November 20, 2013, 03:31:02 PM
SX/4's are known for spraying gas back at you when the auto fill shuts off.  That is if you have the pump going a full bore.   They like the last 3 - 4 gallons nursed in.
Title: Re: filling her up
Post by: Prafeston on November 20, 2013, 04:17:29 PM
Good to know as my last Eagle was a wagon. I'll take note of that. I do fill up my tanks at the lower or middle notch on the pump though. Never at full speed!
Title: Re: filling her up
Post by: IowaEagle on November 20, 2013, 04:40:59 PM
My Ambassador is worse.  I need to find out why it is not venting when I fill it.  Ambassadors with big engines need filling often. 
Title: Re: filling her up
Post by: youngkyle on November 20, 2013, 05:01:04 PM
Good to know. I usually only put in $20 at a time, but when I go get my eagle, I'll remember that ;)
Title: Re: filling her up
Post by: Zoro on November 20, 2013, 10:45:22 PM
My wagon will spray but only if I'm really trying to top it off by cramming in every ounce possible. No problems filling mine with the auto fill, even if most gas stations have gotten rid of those but that's what the gas cap is for. The license plate sometimes kicks the pump handle over to the side but that's about it.

Only done the full serve thing with this car twice and one of those times the kid asked me where to find the gas cap. ;D
Title: Re: filling her up
Post by: youngkyle on November 20, 2013, 10:56:33 PM
I read a few things about full service confusions. Didn't even think about that before, but having them walk around and around the car to find it is just hilarious to me. :)   when I first saw pictures of an eagle I thought the gas cap was the circular light in the rear was the cap.
Title: Re: filling her up
Post by: Prafeston on November 20, 2013, 11:09:39 PM
The wagons don't have the circular side marker lights in the rear like the SX/4. Must be even more confusing!
Title: Re: filling her up
Post by: IowaEagle on November 21, 2013, 11:26:28 AM
Kind of like Clark Griswold trying to find the cap on his Family Truckster and then the lady next to him with the Sportabout filling hers in the same spot we have ours.
Title: Re: filling her up
Post by: youngkyle on November 21, 2013, 11:56:41 AM
I've never put anything but unleaded in my lebaron, but this eagle I'm looking at says he's never put anything but premium in it! Now I'm stuck paying more (not that I mind) because there's no way he was that dedicated for me to just dump cheap gas in there.  I'm buying only premium gas for her!
Title: Re: filling her up
Post by: IowaEagle on November 21, 2013, 12:09:16 PM
You don't need premium.   Maybe he has the timing all wrong.
Title: Re: filling her up
Post by: carnuck on November 22, 2013, 03:22:13 AM
Quote from: IowaEagle on November 20, 2013, 04:40:59 PM
My Ambassador is worse.  I need to find out why it is not venting when I fill it.  Ambassadors with big engines need filling often. 

There should be a hose about the size of a heater hose coming off the tank to the top of the filler hose. If not, yours didn't get the retro-fit. You can add a line to the top of the tank and add a rollover valve at the end with a cap on it (I used to get them from boat stores) Unscrew the little cap while filling. LOTS of gas fumes though!
Title: Re: filling her up
Post by: IowaEagle on November 22, 2013, 09:27:16 AM
Thanks carnuck.  I will check that out.
Title: Re: filling her up
Post by: youngkyle on November 22, 2013, 03:07:28 PM
Quote from: IowaEagle on November 21, 2013, 12:09:16 PM
You don't need premium.   Maybe he has the timing all wrong.
Stopped at the cheap sx4 sport near me, says unleaded only.. Kinda worried now, Are they all only unleaded
Title: Re: filling her up
Post by: IowaEagle on November 22, 2013, 03:52:33 PM
All Eagles are unleaded.  All gas is unleaded these days.  Those stickers were for back in the day when leaded gas was still available.  The filler hole was decreased in size so the leaded nozzles would not fit.  Also, you can use Ethanol blends of up to 15%.  Most blends are around 10%.  I have used ethanol in all my vehicles for many, many years, with no problems.  My Ambassador was converted to use unleaded gas with the installation of new valves in the engine.  Its a high compression engine (10:1) and runs the 87 octane just fine.
Title: Re: filling her up
Post by: 1985amceagle on November 22, 2013, 11:10:53 PM
I've stumbled into a tsb where amc recomended not to use 10 percent ethanol mixes as it destroys the fuel system. I've been running the stuff lately as that is all that I can find, and the engine dosent seem to mind it at all. I would just watch carefully for signs of fuel system corrosion
Title: Re: filling her up
Post by: IowaEagle on November 23, 2013, 09:28:22 AM
I have had the Concord over 10 years and the Eagle nearly that long and the few fuel systems issues have been related to age.  I think our Carters really like Ethanol as I have never had any of the idle tube issues others complain about.
Title: Re: filling her up
Post by: carnuck on November 23, 2013, 03:35:56 PM
If you replace all the fuel lines with modern stuff (especially Marine) you won't have the issues in most cases. Adding some Marvel Mystery oil to the gas tends to cut down the attack on the fuel tank from the inside. There are 2 different alcohols used. Methyl and Ethyl (wood and corn/etc) which are not too bad in low doses. They tried mixing the 2 in Canada and car fires were rampant for the next 2 years from the tanks rotting out the bottom and lines bursting.
Title: Re: filling her up
Post by: Amc1320 on November 23, 2013, 06:34:06 PM
Interesting you mention your Ambassador Doug

Mine will spew everywhere I'd you don't watch it when filling up, and it's very very thirsty so you have to but gas a lot,.

Of course it's also very fast, so it's hard not to goose it alot too......

Glad to know its not just mine!
Title: Re: filling her up
Post by: IowaEagle on November 23, 2013, 06:46:10 PM
Quote from: Amc1320 on November 23, 2013, 06:34:06 PM
Interesting you mention your Ambassador Doug

Mine will spew everywhere I'd you don't watch it when filling up, and it's very very thirsty so you have to but gas a lot,.

Of course it's also very fast, so it's hard not to goose it alot too......

Glad to know its not just mine!
So we need to find a fix.  Mine also needs the frequent gasoline attention.  It too is very fast and very thirsty when you are not cruising on the highway.  Those secondarys like their gasoline.  They are great sleeper cars.  Hey, its only a Rambler!  How fast can it be?

Title: Re: filling her up
Post by: 1985amceagle on November 23, 2013, 09:14:47 PM
according to this song it can outrun another car, and still be in second gear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enqNl7tdLR4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enqNl7tdLR4)