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The Shop => Suspension, Steering, Brakes, Wheels & Tires => Topic started by: Speedy Eagles on January 20, 2013, 04:10:02 PM

Title: Replacing Ball Joints on 83 SX/4
Post by: Speedy Eagles on January 20, 2013, 04:10:02 PM
I found out my wheel was bent that's why the car shook at highway speed.  My drivers side upper ball joint creeks when I go over any bump.  I got the car a year ago and have been just working on it. I don't know how long it was driven by the previous owner with a bent front rim. What else could cause the shake/what other common parts to wear from this issue?

I have been reading up on balljoint replacement is it best to replace all four at once? 
When doing this repair is there a way to avoid needing to realign my car?  The car doesn't pull to either side and rides straight down the road.
Title: Re: Replacing Ball Joints on 83 SX/4
Post by: TLC87Eagle on January 20, 2013, 07:05:56 PM
Ball Joints should fix your problem, it's good practice to just change them all while you're in there, so you won't have to worry about them. The factory ones are riveted in, but they've probably been changed before using bolts, so that shouldn't be an issue.

It shouldn't need realigned if you just change ball joints, but outer tie rods and the pitman arm are also common parts that wear out. Replacing the tie rods will usually require realignment even with careful marking of original position. Changing the steering stabilizer and strut rod bushings can also help driveability issues, and won't need realignment (except maybe for caster, which is a non tread-wearing adjustment)

Hope this helps.  
Title: Re: Replacing Ball Joints on 83 SX/4
Post by: carnuck on January 20, 2013, 11:50:56 PM
I'd get another rim or switch the front tire to the back
Title: Re: Replacing Ball Joints on 83 SX/4
Post by: maddog on January 21, 2013, 03:38:45 AM
i need to replace the ball joints on Eagle Eyes myself and i was wondering if a carpenters hammer would work instead of a sledge hammer as that is all i have. :-\
Title: Re: Replacing Ball Joints on 83 SX/4
Post by: TLC87Eagle on January 21, 2013, 05:45:39 PM
Quote from: maddog on January 21, 2013, 03:38:45 AM
i need to replace the ball joints on Eagle Eyes myself and i was wondering if a carpenters hammer would work instead of a sledge hammer as that is all i have. :-\

I'd invest in a pickle fork, they come in handy a lot to change steering and suspension parts.

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Title: Re: Replacing Ball Joints on 83 SX/4
Post by: maddog on January 21, 2013, 07:34:51 PM
i already have one ;D but i was told i needed a sledge to pound it in to place that's why i asked whether a carpenters hammer would work or not.
Title: Re: Replacing Ball Joints on 83 SX/4
Post by: TLC87Eagle on January 21, 2013, 08:17:09 PM
Quote from: maddog on January 21, 2013, 07:34:51 PM
i already have one ;D but i was told i needed a sledge to pound it in to place that's why i asked whether a carpenters hammer would work or not.

Oh gotcha, you could use a carpenters hammer if you're really careful and it's heavy enough.
I usually use a 32 oz. Ball Peen myself.
Never had to break out the 10 lb sledge for any work on my Eagle yet.  ;D
Title: Re: Replacing Ball Joints on 83 SX/4
Post by: maddog on January 22, 2013, 02:59:44 AM
it's about a ten pound hammer so i think it might work as for being careful then i'm in trouble as i am somewhat clumsy.
Title: Re: Replacing Ball Joints on 83 SX/4
Post by: TLC87Eagle on January 22, 2013, 01:57:59 PM
Yeah, safety is key when popping ball joints.
Sometimes they don't take a lot, and sometimes they really need smacked.  ;D
Title: Re: Replacing Ball Joints on 83 SX/4
Post by: jim on January 22, 2013, 08:02:26 PM
Wear goggles.  Carpenter hammers are made for hitting milder steel (nails) and may chip when used for mechanical work.  It can make them less than perfect for pounding in nails, also.  That having been said, I've gotten by with it many times.  I'm not a good enough carpenter to worry about my hammer being perfect, though I have known carpenters who would hurt you if you used their hammer for hitting anything other than nails and boards.
Title: Re: Replacing Ball Joints on 83 SX/4
Post by: maddog on January 23, 2013, 01:32:34 AM
my carpenters hammer has a lifetime warranty on it so i'm not to worried about damaging it. also it has already been used to pound out my racecars body panels as well as flattening much harder metals without damaging it so i think it will hold up.
Title: Re: Replacing Ball Joints on 83 SX/4
Post by: txjeeptx on January 24, 2013, 11:41:57 AM
You can use a pair of vise grip pliers as a handle for the pickle fork so you wont smack yer hand with the hammer when you miss(notice I didn't say "if").
Title: Re: Replacing Ball Joints on 83 SX/4
Post by: BenM on January 24, 2013, 11:47:42 AM
After a couple of stubborn ones I've moved to a puller style tool. I've found it much easier, and it allows you to reuse ball joints if your only pulling things apart for some other task.
Title: Re: Replacing Ball Joints on 83 SX/4
Post by: maddog on January 24, 2013, 08:04:07 PM
txjeepetx i like the idea of using the vice-grips because i'm pretty sure the first couple of attempts would end with a trip to the emergency room for a broken bone.
BenM that ain't a bad idea but since they are shot and i don't have the money for a puller i think i'll just use the pickle fork for now.
Title: Re: Replacing Ball Joints on 83 SX/4
Post by: carguy87 on January 26, 2013, 10:24:39 AM
Better than puller and pickle fork, at least cheaper, take a hammer and give a few well placed wacks to the knuckle right where the ball joint goes in.  It will usually pop out within 5 or so.  If it's a particularly stubborn one, it helps to have a little load on it to help release it, like using the 2x4 under the arm and a prybar on the lower control arm.