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Title: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: recomer on December 14, 2011, 08:16:11 AM
Well, it's time to get started on the Eagle project here so figured I'd outline my plans and will start it moving along.

As most of you that have read my intro post, I acquired my 1983 Eagle Wagon via a raffle in Sept 2010. The Lions club that raffled it off had it gone through before and while it was given a clean bill of health (new brakes, shocks and possibly other parts) but when I started looking closer it needed some help.

As I planned on letting my daughter take the car to Montana with her, I needed to get it inspected. First thing was to replace the windshield. One corner of it was cracked and was hidden from view by an AAA sticker.  Shopping around, got quotes from 700+ to 250 for a new windshield. (One place even told me I'd have to procure a used windshield as they had no source for them. I ended up taking the $250.00 quote from the local safe-lite glass shop and after a couple hours, I was good to go.

Next, took it to my mechanic for inspection and sure enough it had some issues. 4wd didn't engage (he replaced all the vacuum hoses for that), radiator fins were mostly missing and it was leaking around the filler neck (he had it re-cored) and then the typical belts, hoses, etc.  $1100.00 later, the Eagle had a new lease on life.

Over the next year, not much was done to it as my daughter had it in Montana. We had to replace the alternator and battery on the way out and on the way back, belts, battery (again) and battery cables (along with a lost gas cap)

Now, its back in Virginia with me, it's time to get into cleaning it up and making this car last a long time.
Plans are as follows:

Body:

1. Touch up surface rust spots and clean up small dents/dings various places about the car. Going to preserve as much of the original paint as possible.

(COMPLETED) 2. Locate cross rails for luggage rack. (it looks naked up there without them)

(COMPLETED) 3. Clean up grill and possibly paint as its faded pretty bad. (Original grill was cracked and this one's a replacement I located on a 81 SX4 in the junkyard recently) - Slight change of plans. Located a grill off an 81 Spirit and replaced it with that one. I like the look better.

4. Replace driver's side mirror with one that the cable actually controls.

5. Repair inop rear wiper.

6. Clean up OEM fog light housings.

(COMPLETED) 7. Replace wheels with finned aluminum ones from early (84) Jeep Cherokee. (I have these, just in the process of cleaning them up). UPDATE 3/28/15 - Replaced Cherokee wheels with OEM Eagle Aluminum wheels.

(COMPLETED) 8. New tires.  Going to a 215/70-15 which is slightly shorter than the 205/75s on there now but slightly taller than the original 195/75 that was originally on the car

Electrical

(COMPLETED) 1. Track down reason only half the speakers inside work.

2. Repair rear window defogger.

3. Fix tachometer

4. Console gauges need looked at. (clock, oil pressure, ammeter and vacuum gauges work sometimes, don't work others)

Engine

(COMPLETED) 1. TFI ignition upgrade. Used Accel 140207 Coil.

2. Valve cover replacement.

3. Carburetor Upgrade.

(COMPLETED) 4. Cleanup/Paint air cleaner housing. Replaced with Air Cleaner from Nest/Den member.

(COMPLETED) 5. Replace missing air hose for air filter. (Square accordion looking hose out of air cleaner)

6. Replace most if not all hoses (vacuum and water) in engine compartment.

(COMPLETED) 7. Replace alternator after two NAPA Rebuilds failed in 2 years. New Alternator is PowerMaster 12SI, 100 Amp, PN 7294

Transmission

1. (COMPLETED) Rebuild. Wasn't on original plan but when it broke it got added.

Interior

1. Clean, clean and more cleaning. All original but needs a good thorough cleaning.

2. Fix passenger side sun visor from dropping down every bump.

3. Repair/Replace front seat belts. OEM ones the plastic is cracking on the latches.

(COMPLETED) 4. Replace Shifter Bezel

(COMPLETED) 5. Locate and Replace Emergency Flasher knob.

Long term:

1. Replace all suspension rubber bushings and components. Below are part numbers of parts I've been acquiring:
Front Suspension
Part:                                              QTY: Part Number
Outer Tie Rod Ends                    2    ES2106RL  (MOOG)
Inner Tie Rod Ends                     2    ES2107RL  (MOOG)
Upper Ball Joint                          2    K3082  (MOOG)
Lower Ball Joint                           2    K3153   (MOOG)
Lower Control Arm Bushings    2    K3113  (MOOG)
Upper Control Arm Bushings    2    K3096   (MOOG)
Control Arm Bumper                  2    K3180   (MOOG)
Sway Bar Endlinks                  2    K3124  (MOOG)
Sway Bar Frame Bushings          1    K3110  (MOOG)
Strut Rod Bushings                     1    K3090  (MOOG)
Inner Tie Rod Ends                     2    ES2107RL  (MOOG)
Adjusting Sleeves                       2    ES2032S  (MOOG)
Idler Arm                                      1         K3109 (MOOG) - Still need to order
Pitman Arm                                  1        K3055 (MOOG) - Still need to order

Rear Suspension:
Will fill in as I get parts

2. New Springs

3. Replace shocks with higher quality gas shocks. (ones on there now appear to be low dollar cheapies)

4. New exhaust. (current one is ok, but want to replace it completely.

(COMPLETED) 5. Replace CV Axles. Used Tough One Brand (Made by GSP) from Advanced Auto. PN NCV82001

I think that's it for now. If anyone can think of any typical Eagle trouble spots I should add to this list, please let me know. Over next few days will post before photos of everything mentioned here for comparison once repaired/replaced/etc. Wish me luck.
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: eagleman on December 14, 2011, 09:26:02 AM
Sounds like a nice fun winter project to me. Intrested in what you find with only half of the speakers working. Mine has the same problem.Good luck with your projects.
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: shaggimo on December 14, 2011, 01:13:34 PM
Does the car have an aftermarket radio by chance? Reason I ask, the eagles used a common ground source which worked fine for the factory radio, raises hob with newer units though, I ran into this on my jeep too.
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: GRONK on December 14, 2011, 01:21:19 PM
I second that on the common ground radios.  If aftermarket, just run new speaker wire/etc.  Probably a good tome to upgrade speakers too.

On another note:  Did somebody say carb and TFI upgrade??? ::)  I will keep the package deal through the end of the year (at least)  Everything is costing more and I'm expecting my costs to go up even more in early Spring.
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: recomer on December 14, 2011, 01:45:03 PM
Quote from: shaggimo on December 14, 2011, 01:13:34 PM
Does the car have an aftermarket radio by chance? Reason I ask, the eagles used a common ground source which worked fine for the factory radio, raises hob with newer units though, I ran into this on my jeep too.

OEM Radio still installed. All speakers worked when I first got the car, just started acting up while driving back from Montana in Oct.
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: shaggimo on December 14, 2011, 01:51:37 PM
ah, gotcha, still could be just a ground issue.
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: recomer on December 14, 2011, 02:15:14 PM
Quote from: GRONK on December 14, 2011, 01:21:19 PM
I second that on the common ground radios.  If aftermarket, just run new speaker wire/etc.  Probably a good tome to upgrade speakers too.

On another note:  Did somebody say carb and TFI upgrade??? ::)  I will keep the package deal through the end of the year (at least)  Everything is costing more and I'm expecting my costs to go up even more in early Spring.

Yes GRONK, I've been reading everything I can here (and other sites) about the TFI and Carb upgrades.  Your set up has peaked my interest and I'm working the numbers on my end before I leap. I think I have a question or two for you concerning the Carb set up and will get those to you shortly.
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: GRONK on December 14, 2011, 02:20:39 PM
No rush friend.  I have 3500 cores in stock and the only package that might go up in $$$ is the brand ne 2150 kit.  I have plenty of the ones I build and in my opinion, they are my best ones.
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: recomer on December 16, 2011, 07:46:33 PM
Posting some pics here of the before:

Rust on the tailgate

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff375/recomer/83%20AMC%20Eagle/AMCEagleTailgateRust-16Dec2011.jpg)

Stuck Tach

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff375/recomer/83%20AMC%20Eagle/AMCEagleStuckTach-16Dec2011.jpg)

Inside

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff375/recomer/83%20AMC%20Eagle/AMCEagleInterion-16Dec2011.jpg)

Engine

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff375/recomer/83%20AMC%20Eagle/AMCEagleEngine-16Dec2011.jpg)

Door Rust

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff375/recomer/83%20AMC%20Eagle/AMCEagleDoorRust-16Dec2011.jpg)

Air Cleaner Rust

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff375/recomer/83%20AMC%20Eagle/AMCEagleAirCleaner-16Dec2011.jpg)

THere are a few small surface rust spots elsewhere but you get the ideal.

Rich
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: recomer on December 24, 2011, 04:10:33 PM
Not much to update on this. Got my new tires on order today. Ended up going with the 205/75's vice 215/70's. Everything I found in the 215 size was plain old street tires. I wanted something a little more agressive. Ended up finding a place that has the Kelly Safari Trex tires for a great price and shipping was good too. Once I get them, I'll take them on base to the hobby shop and get them mounted (Im retired Navy and the hobby shop makes for a great place to work on cars with lifts and all the tools one can want). Mounting and balancing there will be about half the cost of taking it anywhere else. Soon as I get them in and on, will post pic.

Also, I scored at the local pick & pull a set of factory caps for the Jeep wheels I got. Lucked out when I looked in the back of a Commanche truck and saw all 4 of the center caps there. $12.00 and a little cleaning and was good to go.
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: shanebo on December 24, 2011, 09:43:28 PM
Ive never seen one with that interior color...I like it.
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: recomer on December 28, 2011, 10:13:43 AM
Quote from: GRONK on December 14, 2011, 01:21:19 PM
I second that on the common ground radios.  If aftermarket, just run new speaker wire/etc.  Probably a good tome to upgrade speakers too.

On another note:  Did somebody say carb and TFI upgrade??? ::)  I will keep the package deal through the end of the year (at least)  Everything is costing more and I'm expecting my costs to go up even more in early Spring.

Gronk (or any others that want to chime in on this),

Question concerning the TFI upgrades. Reading what I have concerning the size of the distributor cap and the possibility of arcing inside the smaller OEM cap, which is one of the reasons for using the bigger caps, would there be any benifits gained without replacing the coil and only adding the cap adapter, cap, rotor with 8MM wires? Or are the gains only seen with coil replacement also?

Thanks,

Rich
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: GRONK on December 28, 2011, 10:16:42 AM
Yes, there are still benefits to just replacing the cap/rotor and adding the adapter.  Can I ask why you wouldn't replace the coil too though?  It's better all around that way, but the "lite" version will cure the arching issues.
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: recomer on December 28, 2011, 12:36:01 PM
Quote from: GRONK on December 28, 2011, 10:16:42 AM
Yes, there are still benefits to just replacing the cap/rotor and adding the adapter.  Can I ask why you wouldn't replace the coil too though?  It's better all around that way, but the "lite" version will cure the arching issues.

No specific reason not wanting to replace the coil but my being a long time electronic and computer tech, I tend to dig deeper into things and want to know the whys of everything I'm adding/replacing/upgrading.

I appreciate the reply.

Rich
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: recomer on January 01, 2012, 05:31:15 PM
Had an idea this weekend inspired by a thread here on the Eagles Nest concerning the rear hatch weather stripping. For some reason the weather stripping on my hatch just didnt match any pictures I've seen. here's a cross section:

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff375/recomer/83%20AMC%20Eagle/AMCEagleOldWeatherstripping-01Jan2012.jpg)

It was glued on under the lip around the hatch opening and just didnt look factory. So based on the pictures I've seen, I headed to pick & pull yesterday. Checked out quite a few rear hatch weather strips from various vehicle. Ones from Cherokees and Grand Cherokees seemed like the part that would clip around the lip was too big. Then I ran across the weather stripping from a early 90's Dodge Caravan. Looked like a better fit. Only cost me $5.00 so worth giving it a try.

The Cavavan weather stripping looks like this on the cross section:

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff375/recomer/83%20AMC%20Eagle/AMCEagleNewWeatherstrippingfrom93Caravan-01Jan2012.jpg)

Ripped out the old, replaced with the new (used) and ended up trimming about a foot or two off when I finished. Had to trim around the liftgate hatch plate:

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff375/recomer/83%20AMC%20Eagle/AMCEagleNewWeatherstrippingAroundLatch-01Jan2012.jpg)

But fits well. Well after doing this, closing the tailgate was a little hard. Guessing it is a little thicker than whats needed. I did get it closed and its sealed very well. Hoping it'll squash the weather stripping down a little with the tailgate closed. Will update more on that later.

While I was there, I pulled the rear wiper motor to get some part numbers off it and start figuring out why it doesnt work. Also, noticed something I hadnt seen before. Some paint missing on the side of the hatch that appears to show this isnt the orginal hatch. See next pic:

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff375/recomer/83%20AMC%20Eagle/AMCEagleHatchPaint-01Jan2012.jpg)

Guess as time goes on, I'll find out more history on this car.
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: recomer on January 07, 2012, 03:24:46 PM
Couple updates. Weatherstripping on rear hatch seems to be adjusting and gate is easier to close now. Got my new tires in Friday. The Kelly Safari Trex's were out of stock and they had no clue as to when they'd be able to get them so I opted to go with some General Altimax RT's sized 215/70-15. Still got a good price on them and they are a good looking tire with good specs. Had them and the Cherokee Wheels installed today (Picture below). Only had one issue. When pulling the car out of the bay, it made a thumping noise. It went right back up on the lift and we figured out the weights on the drivers front tire were scraping against the caliper. Not sure how that happened (passenger side was no problem. So weights were pull, tire rebalanced and no issues second time around. There is some flare scraping going on on the passenger side when turning wheel all the way to left, so I see I might have to trim slightly up there. While I still need to do a good scrubbing on the wheels, definitely makes an improvement over the stock wheels and hubcaps

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff375/recomer/83%20AMC%20Eagle/AMCEagleNewWheelsTires-07Jan2012.jpg)
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: shanebo on January 07, 2012, 10:55:57 PM
Those rims look good...I really like those old style cherokee rims...You should have your cross bars for the roof rack in a week or so  ;)
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: recomer on January 09, 2012, 08:32:23 AM
Quote from: shanebo on January 07, 2012, 10:55:57 PM
Those rims look good...I really like those old style cherokee rims...You should have your cross bars for the roof rack in a week or so  ;)

Thanks on both. I screened a lot of Eagle photos looking for just the right look with the wheels. These gave me the look I wanted.
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: recomer on January 14, 2012, 01:20:29 PM
A big thanks and an Egg to Shanebo for the luggage rack cross bars. Just got them in and installed. The roof just looked naked having the rack without the bars.

Before:

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff375/recomer/83%20AMC%20Eagle/AMCEagleNoCrossRails-14Jan2012.jpg)


After:

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff375/recomer/83%20AMC%20Eagle/AMCEagleWithCrossRails-14Jan2012.jpg)
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: eaglefreek on January 14, 2012, 03:44:59 PM
Looking good! I'm on the lookout locally for a set of those wheels. I think they look perfect on an Eagle.
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: shanebo on January 14, 2012, 06:48:25 PM
I'm glad they got to you...they almost didn't cuz I was dyslexic and wrote the address backwards...luckily they were on the right street at least.
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: Prafeston on March 07, 2012, 02:32:09 AM
Quote from: eaglefreek on January 14, 2012, 03:44:59 PM
Looking good! I'm on the lookout locally for a set of those wheels. I think they look perfect on an Eagle.

Looking for those rims too! :) Guess they are a hot item for the Eagle!

Good looking car man. You're back looks like it may be sagging a bit. Those tires seem to barely fit back there.
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: recomer on May 19, 2012, 08:55:59 PM
Unexpected addition over the last few weeks to the list of items needing repaired. Transmission. Went out to dinner one night and had to be towed back. I could say the car ran like a top as it just stayed in one place and the engine spinned. Reverse worked, none of the forward gears did. Was about to give up on this as no transmission place locally knew anything about AMCs (Yeah they weren't smart enough to look it up) so I ended up talking to a local Jeep restorer and they told me where they farm thier transmission work out to.

Ended up with a total rebuild of the transmission and its back on the road again. Yeah it cost me a pretty penny but was worth it in the long run for all the other stuff I've done to it.
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: recomer on June 02, 2012, 11:09:55 AM
Had transmission shop do a check out of transmission (been 2 weeks since rebuild) and alls looking good. No leaks, nothing loose, shifts are crisp and all working great. Nice to have that out of way. Now back to regularly scheduled repairs... :)
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: recomer on June 02, 2012, 11:12:39 AM
Quote from: Prafeston on March 07, 2012, 02:32:09 AM

Looking for those rims too! :) Guess they are a hot item for the Eagle!

Good looking car man. You're back looks like it may be sagging a bit. Those tires seem to barely fit back there.

Actually, back of car was sagging cause of having the 4 old wheels and tires still in the cargo area.
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: recomer on July 05, 2012, 04:35:26 PM
Ordered parts today for the TFI (or whatever its being called today) upgrade today via Advance Auto (nice that they had a 15% discount and free shipping).

Only deviatation from the norm/suggested/etc was the coil. After all the reading here (and many other Jeep sites talking about this) I ordered an Accel 140207 Coil. According to the specs, its nearly identical to the original except it puts out up to 45K and it uses the factory horseshoe connector. I wanted to go that route with stock mounting vice putting holes in the inner fender to mount the TFI coils mentioned. Will see how it does when I get it.
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: ammachine390 on July 05, 2012, 05:04:37 PM
Since you bought the Accel coil, you are not really "upgrading" to a higher voltage coil. Pretty much just staying stock. So I would not gap the plugs too much more than what the factory spec is. You will not be putting out 45,000 Volts with this coil, you will only put on around 22,500 Volts. Stock is 18,000 Volts. The Pertronix 3.0 ohm 40,000 Volt coil fits in the original mounting location, only difference is that there is no horseshoe connector.
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: shanebo on July 06, 2012, 01:05:21 AM
Glad to hear the new transmission is in and running....that's the thing with these older transmissions, its not a matter of if but when they go out...some go for 200,000 miles while others go only 60,000...being as most of us are not the original owners its hard to say what kind of maintnance our cars had through the years...I've seen so many folks change oil religiouly but never even pull the dipstick on the tranny,...mine is a manual but I have a sneaking suspicion mine may be needing some attention in the very near future.... :banghead:
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: recomer on July 06, 2012, 07:13:55 AM
Quote from: shanebo on July 06, 2012, 01:05:21 AM
Glad to hear the new transmission is in and running....that's the thing with these older transmissions, its not a matter of if but when they go out...some go for 200,000 miles while others go only 60,000...being as most of us are not the original owners its hard to say what kind of maintnance our cars had through the years...I've seen so many folks change oil religiouly but never even pull the dipstick on the tranny,...mine is a manual but I have a sneaking suspicion mine may be needing some attention in the very near future.... :banghead:

Thanks Shanebo. When I asked the trasnmission shop what caused it to go out, the guys reply was "It was old". Even though milage was only 92k, he said he assumed the car sat unused for a bit which can cause issues. Its running like a champ now.
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: rollguy on July 06, 2012, 10:31:21 AM
Quote from: ammachine390 on July 05, 2012, 05:04:37 PM
The Pertronix 3.0 ohm 40,000 Volt coil fits in the original mounting location, only difference is that there is no horseshoe connector.
I tried the Pertronix coil, and it was not good.  I must have got a bad one, because it had a misfire after the car got warmed up.  I put the E-Core coil back on, and it runs great now.  Also, you can make a bracket to install the E-Core coil in the stock location.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k13/rollguy/TFI%20Upgrade/100_0770.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k13/rollguy/TFI%20Upgrade/100_0763.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k13/rollguy/TFI%20Upgrade/100_0767.jpg)
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: Baskinator on July 07, 2012, 08:30:13 PM
@Rollguy- if you have anymore of these photos, I would very much like to see them. I'm sure it wouldn't be too difficult to make a bracket (after all the floorboard fabrication I've had to do), but I just installed the TFI upgrade with the E-Core coil and it's currently sitting on top of the old bracket awaiting cable ties. It doesn't help that one of those star bolts is stripped  >:(

I feel the E-Core coil is a much better option. I've heard of the canister style failing much more often, and I've already had one fail myself. The Eaglepedia version of the TFI upgrade needs to be updated a little bit with this option, and this style coil is also less expensive. In fact for future reference, you can actually save a lot more money with Advance Auto by searching the web for coupon codes. My whole TFI upgrade cost only about $60.
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: rollguy on July 07, 2012, 08:37:23 PM
Quote from: Baskinator on July 07, 2012, 08:30:13 PM
@Rollguy- if you have anymore of these photos, I would very much like to see them.
I think those are all the photos I have.  I slotted the hole so I did not have to screw both bolts in all the way (much easier to only have to take one totally out).  If one of yours is stripped, you can twist the entire bracket with the bolt, and it should turn.
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: recomer on July 15, 2012, 08:57:04 PM
Finally a cool evening here in VA so I had time to work the new ignition parts into the Eagle tonight. Got all the parts at Advanced Auto including the Accel 140207 Coil. Gapped all the plugs to .045 and when I fired it up the first time, the throttle response was a huge improvement. Just took it for a short drive, but a definite improvement. Will take it out tomorrow evening for more testing :)

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff375/recomer/83%20AMC%20Eagle/AMCEagle-NewDistributorWires-15Jul2012.jpg)
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: recomer on July 17, 2012, 08:13:33 AM
Drove the Eagle in this morning to work and what a difference. Accelleration was much better, smoother idle. What a difference. Next step, to get a hold of GRONK to discuss carb replacement :)
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: GRONK on July 17, 2012, 04:00:25 PM
Somebody say my name?
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: recomer on September 28, 2012, 07:25:25 AM
One more item off the to be fixed list. Radio isssues with only one speaker working. Sitting at drive through for McD's this morning, I took out the manual and learned how to operate the radio. What I thought was the balance adjust was the tone adjust. Found balance and fader and guess what? All 4 speakers now working again. I feel like an idiot BUT at least its working now :)
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: EAGLER on September 28, 2012, 11:53:58 AM
the tfi upgrade looks very good, but the spark wires would look better like this,this is on my 1980 vam rally amx
(http://i789.photobucket.com/albums/yy180/markin132/579177_388230711217785_100000925786489_1137641_47999451_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: recomer on October 02, 2012, 07:57:12 PM
Snagged a 81 Spirit grill tonight. Needs cleaned up a little before install. Even has the AMC Logo still and in great shape. Guy that had it has quite a collection of AMC and Jeep parts (and a neighbor that has a Eagle parked in thier back yard)... :D
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: recomer on January 01, 2013, 11:50:37 AM
Where's the appropriate place to say Happy Birthday to my Eagle. Mine has a Jan 1983 Build date on it, so its now 30 years old :)  :occasion14:
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: recomer on November 28, 2013, 09:27:11 AM
Starting to gather all the parts for a suspension rebuild. I looked over the kits at ESPO and while a good price and decent quality (according to them the balls joints and parts are made by McQuay) I'm going to go with all MOOG parts if I can find them. Rockauto has great prices but the overall cost goes up with shipping from 5 different places. Last night I started with new Ball Joints (MOOG K3082 Uppers and K3153 Lowers) and strut rod bushings (MOOG K3090) from Amazon for $110.00 (free shipping too) Rockauto would have been $145.00 cause f all those shipping charges. Spreading out the parts acquisition over a little time.
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: IowaEagle on November 28, 2013, 12:21:41 PM
WOW!  Those bushings sure have went up in price.  Check the strut mounts for cupping related to age and corrosion.  Mine were beefed up using large washers with the correct hole diameter, securely welded into the mounts.  Apparently the guy who did it said this was a common fix for Fords which had a similar setup.
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: recomer on November 28, 2013, 12:54:54 PM
Quote from: IowaEagle on November 28, 2013, 12:21:41 PM
WOW!  Those bushings sure have went up in price.  Check the strut mounts for cupping related to age and corrosion.  Mine were beefed up using large washers with the correct hole diameter, securely welded into the mounts.  Apparently the guy who did it said this was a common fix for Fords which had a similar setup.

Appreciate the advice. Will check that out when I'm pulling parts.
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: recomer on November 29, 2013, 02:05:14 PM
Eagle Passed inspection today. I get nervous when I take it in as I'm always afraid what they'll find.
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: IowaEagle on November 29, 2013, 03:37:30 PM
Great News!
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: recomer on December 20, 2013, 07:58:06 PM
Well two years later after I replaced the tires, ended up running the edges of the front tires bald Suspension/Front end components appear solid so taking it in tomorrow for front end alignment and tire replacement. Going a different route on the tires this time. Same size though. More on that tomorrow with some pictures after I give the thing a bath. Supposed to be a warm weekend.
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: recomer on December 21, 2013, 02:47:00 PM
TIres on this morning, have to go back Thursday/Friday for alignment as alignment guy took the day off.  Tires I got came from here ( http://www.neweratires.com/index.html ). They sell on Ebay too. I've been researching remolded tires for a few years and decided to give them a try. While I'm not an "save the environment" type, I'm a thrifty type. Paid $225.00 shipped for a set of 4. Tires look well made and the remolding process appears from everything I've read to be a much needed improvement to the retreading process. Will post a few pictures later this evening.
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: eaglefreek on December 21, 2013, 03:17:19 PM
Interesting. let us know how they perform. Unfortunately, they don't have any tires that I would use, since I have A/T's one one eagle and M/T's on another.
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: recomer on December 21, 2013, 04:08:48 PM
According to their website they make a 235/75-15 and a 225/75-16 All Terrain. Tread pattern looks like early Wrangler Radial. (see http://www.amazon.com/New-Era-Remolded-Light-Tire/dp/B00GI312D2/ref=sr_1_8?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1387659890&sr=1-8 for the pattern). Try Treadwright too ( https://www.treadwright.com/ ) they make 235/75-15 and larger off road tires in various treads. They've been reviewed quite a bit with favorable results. Here's pictures taken of the car and a close up of the tire:

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff375/recomer/83%20AMC%20Eagle/AMCEaglewithnewtires12-22-13_zps7e45a31f.jpg) (http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/recomer/media/83%20AMC%20Eagle/AMCEaglewithnewtires12-22-13_zps7e45a31f.jpg.html)

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff375/recomer/83%20AMC%20Eagle/NewEraTire_zps5bbe5b2d.jpg) (http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/recomer/media/83%20AMC%20Eagle/NewEraTire_zps5bbe5b2d.jpg.html)




Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: recomer on December 24, 2013, 08:49:41 PM
Had to add this. Found some pictures on my hard drive here of the Eagle taken the day I picked up the car in 2010.

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff375/recomer/83%20AMC%20Eagle/0919001516.jpg) (http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/recomer/media/83%20AMC%20Eagle/0919001516.jpg.html)

Still looks good :)
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: recomer on December 26, 2013, 10:12:32 AM
Front end alignment on the Eagle completed. Had toe in issues with both wheels and negative camber on drivers front.
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: Amc1320 on December 26, 2013, 08:01:57 PM
Those wheels really make a big difference,
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: recomer on December 27, 2013, 07:06:35 PM
Quote from: Amc1320 on December 26, 2013, 08:01:57 PM
Those wheels really make a big difference,

Thanks. I looked at a lot of pictures of Eagles before I decided on those. Also, the blackwalls look better than the whitewalls too :)
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: recomer on January 12, 2014, 03:24:42 PM
I always feel stupid when I look at something I've done many times before (and not just on the Eagle) and for the life of me can't figure out how I did it last time. Was replacing belts today. Alternator, no issue, two bolts and its loose, pull the belt. I swear I stared at the power steering pump for 15 minutes trying to remember which bolts to loosen. FINALLY remembered and was loose if a couple minutes. Alternator belt was getting squeaky so went ahead and replaced them both (keeping the old belts as ready service spares just in case). Finally stopped raining here in Va Beach and its not too cold out so was good time to catch up.
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: IowaEagle on January 12, 2014, 06:26:14 PM
Yeah, I always have to pause with the PS one, remembering that hidden one on the backside.
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: Monkeyjoe on January 13, 2014, 07:23:28 AM
I had pulled my engine and stripped everything down fro the rebuild.   When I got back to it a couple of years later, I was surprised at how much I remembered where everything was.  But there were a few things that had me stumped but I love puzzles so eventually I figured everything out and didn't have any nut or bolts left over.
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: recomer on February 09, 2014, 03:28:09 PM
Latest Photos taken today after a good wash

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff375/recomer/83%20AMC%20Eagle/8dbb889c-6fe8-4602-8938-6678cbe14873_zpsbb1e733b.jpg) (http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/recomer/media/83%20AMC%20Eagle/8dbb889c-6fe8-4602-8938-6678cbe14873_zpsbb1e733b.jpg.html)

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff375/recomer/83%20AMC%20Eagle/2014-02-09_12-26-07_500_zps9883e361.jpg) (http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/recomer/media/83%20AMC%20Eagle/2014-02-09_12-26-07_500_zps9883e361.jpg.html)

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff375/recomer/83%20AMC%20Eagle/2014-02-09_12-25-47_585_zps184f1604.jpg) (http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/recomer/media/83%20AMC%20Eagle/2014-02-09_12-25-47_585_zps184f1604.jpg.html)

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff375/recomer/83%20AMC%20Eagle/2014-02-09_12-25-34_929_zps7be26b11.jpg) (http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/recomer/media/83%20AMC%20Eagle/2014-02-09_12-25-34_929_zps7be26b11.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: recomer on April 10, 2014, 07:13:25 PM
If you're interested in using the same graphic for the center caps as I'm using, here they are

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff375/recomer/83%20AMC%20Eagle/4x4finalcolor_zps1c84ec43.jpg) (http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/recomer/media/83%20AMC%20Eagle/4x4finalcolor_zps1c84ec43.jpg.html)

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff375/recomer/83%20AMC%20Eagle/Eagle44hubcaplogo_zps140d24a0.jpg) (http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/recomer/media/83%20AMC%20Eagle/Eagle44hubcaplogo_zps140d24a0.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: maddog on April 10, 2014, 09:42:21 PM
Quote from: recomer on April 10, 2014, 07:13:25 PM
If you're interested in using the same graphic for the center caps as I'm using, here they are

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff375/recomer/83%20AMC%20Eagle/4x4finalcolor_zps1c84ec43.jpg) (http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/recomer/media/83%20AMC%20Eagle/4x4finalcolor_zps1c84ec43.jpg.html)

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff375/recomer/83%20AMC%20Eagle/Eagle44hubcaplogo_zps140d24a0.jpg) (http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/recomer/media/83%20AMC%20Eagle/Eagle44hubcaplogo_zps140d24a0.jpg.html)
and here I thought I was being original by doing that to my center caps. :-\
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: trout on April 11, 2014, 10:46:47 PM
Looks good, I just got those same wheels for mine.

What did you do as far as printing the graphic and having it be weather resistant?
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: recomer on April 12, 2014, 08:55:09 PM
Quote from: trout on April 11, 2014, 10:46:47 PM
Looks good, I just got those same wheels for mine.

What did you do as far as printing the graphic and having it be weather resistant?

I had them made overseas and they have a clear plastic (urethane maybe) covering. See http://3dcarstickers.com/
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: vangremlin on April 13, 2014, 10:51:16 AM
Thanks for the link.  Those 3D decals look like they would be perfect for the little center piece on the horn buttons.  I see that you are able to submit a custom design and size, which could be an  :eagle: or  :amc:

I suppose they'll want me to buy 4, perhaps others would be interested.

Sorry to hijack your thread   ;D
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: trout on April 13, 2014, 11:38:04 AM
very nice, and the prices seem reasonable. Did the customs cost much more than the premade ones?
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: recomer on April 13, 2014, 03:09:09 PM
No issues with the hijack. I posted them here for others to see and if the want the graphics, they could use them. MIne of course were custom. A normal set through them is 8/9 dollars. Suspect they make them in bulk so they can sell cheaper. Custom one off would of course cost more (15 + 3 dollars for shipping. They sell in sets of 4 as they are typically made for center caps.
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: vangremlin on April 14, 2014, 11:32:51 PM
Quote from: recomer on April 13, 2014, 03:09:09 PM
Custom one off would of course cost more (15 + 3 dollars for shipping. They sell in sets of 4 as they are typically made for center caps.

Thats a great price!  I sent them an email, but no word back yet.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: recomer on March 15, 2015, 12:50:55 PM
New plugs today (Champions vice the Autolites that were in there) along with new air filter and tightened the squealing alternator belt. Here's what the plugs look like after 2 years

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff375/recomer/83%20AMC%20Eagle/plugs%203-15-15_zpspwu1t8tf.jpg) (http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/recomer/media/83%20AMC%20Eagle/plugs%203-15-15_zpspwu1t8tf.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: carnuck on March 21, 2015, 01:28:12 PM
I never cared for Champions in my AMCs. The old racer's joke used to be the reason Champions were sold in boxes of 10 was to improve your chances of getting 8 good ones.
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: recomer on March 28, 2015, 09:02:53 PM
Change to my plans. Swapped out the Cherokee wheels with OEM Eagle wheels. I like this look better

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff375/recomer/83%20AMC%20Eagle/AMC%20Eagle%20Mar%202015_zpsgnzw4f3o.jpg) (http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/recomer/media/83%20AMC%20Eagle/AMC%20Eagle%20Mar%202015_zpsgnzw4f3o.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Rich's 83 Eagle Wagon Project
Post by: Amc1320 on March 28, 2015, 10:50:32 PM
I like those wheels