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The Mighty 258 => The Engine => Topic started by: brownbear on October 22, 2011, 01:01:53 PM

Title: timing marks
Post by: brownbear on October 22, 2011, 01:01:53 PM
I bought a timing light and I'm trying to set my timing.  I don't remember how many slashes or marks up equals 9 degrees.  I read it should be set between 9-11 and It was around 8 marks up and that might be why I have so much pinging. I unplugged the hose from the dist. and plugged the hose.  I checked and set it around 6 marks up on the scale, is that correct?????
Title: Re: timing marks
Post by: Draekon on October 22, 2011, 01:04:53 PM
I believe 1 mark is 2 degrees.
Title: Re: timing marks
Post by: brownbear on October 22, 2011, 03:08:55 PM
if true, i have it set between the 5th and 6th.  the pinging is almost gone and i can peel out pretty easy, so i didn't lose any power.  it only does in 2nd gear, when you start off nothing, but then the next gear it will ping.  i am going to run some seafoam in it now......
Title: Re: timing marks
Post by: Whuntmore on October 22, 2011, 04:53:16 PM
Quote from: Draekon on October 22, 2011, 01:04:53 PM
I believe 1 mark is 2 degrees.

You are correct.  

there are slightly longer marks (4 degrees), but each mark is 2 degrees.  In between each mark will be 1 degree.  

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b350/cantwait_forviolence/timing_marks/0900823d801d6950.gif)
Title: Re: timing marks
Post by: doc65 on February 22, 2012, 05:02:06 PM
This is how I figured what marks were what on mine, might help someone...

(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j412/drbauer65/IMAG0140.jpg)
Title: Re: timing marks
Post by: mr.mindless on February 22, 2012, 05:13:08 PM
Good egg to Doc, I was just going to post the same picture that I took when I was timing mine last week.
Title: Re: timing marks
Post by: Prafeston on February 22, 2012, 05:25:02 PM
Where is this located on the car? I still have to set my timing...and my car seems like it bogs pretty back...I couldn't peel out if I tried and I have the GRONK carb/dissy upgrade.
Title: Re: timing marks
Post by: doc65 on February 22, 2012, 05:34:46 PM
the very front of the engine on the drivers side, look down at an angle between the engine and the fan.  You may have to do some serious wiping as it gets covered with oil/grunge.  I used some extra carb cleaner that I had along with a fine wire brush(tooth brush style).
Title: Re: timing marks
Post by: mr.mindless on February 22, 2012, 05:36:25 PM
Pulling the PS belt should also get you better viewing. Shame the main belt is in front so it's a four step process to R&R it.
Title: Re: timing marks
Post by: doc65 on February 22, 2012, 05:40:53 PM
Couple more pics for perspective:

(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j412/drbauer65/IMAG0145.jpg)
(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j412/drbauer65/IMAG0146.jpg)
Title: Re: timing marks
Post by: Prafeston on February 22, 2012, 05:44:13 PM
Oh wow...it's way down there! That helps a lot. Thanks.
Title: Re: timing marks
Post by: doc65 on February 22, 2012, 05:59:08 PM
There should be a notch on you balancer as well that you reference against those marks, it's helpful though not required to use something like chalk on that notch to make it stand out
Title: Re: timing marks
Post by: Prafeston on February 22, 2012, 06:12:58 PM
Thanks for the tip. I still don't understand how the timing light works, but I'm guessing my new one came with instructions.
Title: Re: timing marks
Post by: doc65 on February 22, 2012, 06:27:32 PM
Timing is pretty basic, most all the newer lights have an inductive clamp(older ones plugged inline between the plug & wire) that clamps over the number 1 plug wire, and also has two power clamps for the battery, or in this case I clamp to the starter solenoid, and my AC bracket as my battery has covers on the terminals.  You then shine the light down toward this are, and everytime number 1 plug fires the timing light fires it's strobe light so that you can see where the mark on the balancer is with regards to the marks on that scale.  You then slightly loosen the distributor clamp bolt and twist the distributor to move the timing advance or retard as required.

One final thought, that inductive clamp has an arrow or a towards engine side, this is important as not all of them work well backwards.  My favorite old Craftsman light is 30ish years old, and works better than the two newer ones that I have, BUT I HAVE to put the clamp on the right direction, the newer ones aren't picky, but they also aren't as accurate.