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The Mighty 258 => The Engine => Topic started by: mihunter on April 13, 2011, 03:44:51 PM

Title: cylinder compression?
Post by: mihunter on April 13, 2011, 03:44:51 PM
does anyone know what the cylinder compression should be on the 258? thanks
Title: Re: cylinder compression?
Post by: mudkicker715 on April 13, 2011, 03:55:41 PM
Assuming stock 160 to165 psi.
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Post by: ammachine390 on April 13, 2011, 06:38:14 PM
For an 81 258, the compression should 120-150 psi with 30 psi max variation between cylinders.
Title: Re: cylinder compression?
Post by: BenM on April 14, 2011, 08:25:21 AM
The earlier engines will be less, they went to higher compression heads it 82. Very early AMC engines were about 8.0:1, by the early Eagles it was 8.2:1, and the post-81 Eagles were 8.6:1.
Title: Re: cylinder compression?
Post by: Jurjen on April 14, 2011, 12:07:12 PM
So considering that both inlet and exhaust valves are already closed in BDC, you can multiply the ratio by the ambient air pressure: 15psi.
Ratio 1:8 should give you 120psi.
Note that ambient is much lower when your living in the hills.
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Post by: tougeagle on April 14, 2011, 08:17:44 PM
I'm running 127-135 in mine, at 5000 ft... I wonder what that works out to compressionwise....
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Post by: Jurjen on April 16, 2011, 06:53:59 AM
That 's easy enough:

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/air-altitude-density-volume-d_195.html

Scroll down a bit to the table and you will find ambient pressure at 5000ft is 12.23 psi.
So your compression is well above 10:1 (130/12.23).
That is very well possible with the 4.0 head and EFI with knock sensor.

Title: Re: cylinder compression?
Post by: tougeagle on April 16, 2011, 04:06:07 PM
Quote from: Jurjen on April 16, 2011, 06:53:59 AM
That 's easy enough:

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/air-altitude-density-volume-d_195.html

Scroll down a bit to the table and you will find ambient pressure at 5000ft is 12.23 psi.
So your compression is well above 10:1 (130/12.23).
That is very well possible with the 4.0 head and EFI with knock sensor.



I'm actually kind of surprised that it's above 10... I wonder if they zeroed the deck on the block when they rebuilt the motor. Though, the 4.0 harness up until at least 1996 did not include a knock sensor...
Title: Re: cylinder compression?
Post by: mudkicker715 on April 16, 2011, 04:15:03 PM
Jurjen I would never doubt math.   But I have seenon a couple old motors 150psi tops.lowest cyl on them was iirc 120psi.

Gotta go with my 160 to 165psi.
Title: Re: cylinder compression?
Post by: Jurjen on April 16, 2011, 06:15:50 PM
There can be other factors too, like doing a compression test on a warm engine.
Title: Re: cylinder compression?
Post by: mudkicker715 on April 16, 2011, 06:35:47 PM
It was cold.  carbon?
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Post by: BenM on April 17, 2011, 10:14:58 PM
Perhaps dynamic vs static compression figures. Air can only move so fast, so a cam can bleed pressure off or help build pressure up. That may be affecting readings.