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Title: Crazy guy with crazy dreams
Post by: shanebo on August 21, 2011, 12:58:32 AM
I really want to convert one of my eagles to a 304 v8. Is there any hardware out there..motor mounts etc available for a job like this
Title: Re: Crazy guy with crazy dreams
Post by: Gil-SX4 on August 21, 2011, 01:09:30 AM
Most likely you will need to use the engine mounts out of a FSJ (Full Size Jeep).
Title: Re: Crazy guy with crazy dreams
Post by: thereverendbill on August 21, 2011, 01:26:10 AM
I believe hyperegale made a kit for putting a V8 in an eagle that holds the front diff
Title: Re: Crazy guy with crazy dreams
Post by: txjeeptx on August 21, 2011, 02:09:49 PM
Yes, search for hypereagle's engine mounts. One thing about the AMC V8, in stock form, it isn't much of a performer. With an edelbrock aluminum intake and a healthier cam, and some headers, it can be more fun. If you're looking for easier V8-like power, buying a salvage XJ with a 4.o and swapping it and the fuel injection is probably better than swapping in a stock AMC V8.

There is a SX/4 for sale in my area with a stock 304 already swapped into it. I passed it up because it was poorly wired, and the rear axle was blown doing a burnout, so the seller had a Jeep TJ D35 cobbled under there for rolling stock. The car had too many needs for the asking price, so I didn't get it, and picked up the blue SX/4 I'm currently restoring. After I finish the blue car and sell it, I might consider the V8 car, if its still available by then.
Title: Re: Crazy guy with crazy dreams
Post by: eaglefreek on August 21, 2011, 06:22:08 PM
There is a member here, who installed a 304 in his SX4 and was disappointed. He now has a 4.0L and is very happy with it. More power and better MPG.
Title: Re: Crazy guy with crazy dreams
Post by: thereverendbill on August 21, 2011, 06:30:14 PM
a 304 would make a great conversation piece that is for sure, but like everyone else says a 4.0 is the better way (or maybe a stroker)
Title: Re: Crazy guy with crazy dreams
Post by: mudkicker715 on August 21, 2011, 06:41:10 PM
I have both a stroker and a 304. No substitution for cubes or a 4 v carb also running true duals on both. Lots of work left on the v8. Also the v8 benefits from ca.3.50 gears. Versus 2.73 on the stroker.
Title: Re: Crazy guy with crazy dreams
Post by: hypereagle on August 21, 2011, 11:40:35 PM
I really want to convert one of my eagles to a 304 v8. Is there any hardware out there..motor mounts etc available for a job like this
You can see my mounts in member products along with some pics of a 360 that I had in my SX4 which I no longer have. It was all fun.
Title: Re: Crazy guy with crazy dreams
Post by: mick on August 22, 2011, 10:12:34 AM
I have a 360 in my Green car with a Q-Jet.  It does not disappoint.  The power over the six is greatly increased.  4.0L are great as well, but nothing beats the sound of a V-8.  PEROID!

 http://youtu.be/c7hR8TP1mC0
Title: Re: Crazy guy with crazy dreams
Post by: txjeeptx on August 22, 2011, 05:07:30 PM
I'll give you that, nothin sounds like a V8. I was gonna suggest at least the 360 since its more common/more available with all the FSJs out there. Just a lot of work to swap one, so make it worth while. No stock intakes allowed.
Title: Re: Crazy guy with crazy dreams
Post by: mick on August 22, 2011, 07:23:05 PM
I'll give you that, nothin sounds like a V8. I was gonna suggest at least the 360 since its more common/more available with all the FSJs out there. Just a lot of work to swap one, so make it worth while. No stock intakes allowed.

I hear ya man.  Mine has a V-8 because it was already setup with a new xmember.  I wouldn't waste my time with a 304 either.  360 or 401
Title: Re: Crazy guy with crazy dreams
Post by: mick on August 22, 2011, 07:24:08 PM
I had a stock '74 Javelin with a 304 2v that would put down three feet of rubber when it hit second gear. It was an automatic. No lack of power, I thought.

Sounds pretty healthy to me.
Title: Re: Crazy guy with crazy dreams
Post by: maddog on August 22, 2011, 09:43:15 PM
hey shanebo your not crazy your "diseased". >:D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Crazy guy with crazy dreams
Post by: eaglefreek on August 22, 2011, 09:47:20 PM
I'll give you that, nothin sounds like a V8. I was gonna suggest at least the 360 since its more common/more available with all the FSJs out there. Just a lot of work to swap one, so make it worth while. No stock intakes allowed.

I hear ya man.  Mine has a V-8 because it was already setup with a new xmember.  I wouldn't waste my time with a 304 either.  360 or 401
There is a 401 for sale for $600 locally. I AM SO TEMPTED!
Title: Re: Crazy guy with crazy dreams
Post by: shanebo on August 23, 2011, 01:02:39 AM
Im already in the works converting the 83 to a 4.0 efi head swap....but....there is just somthing about the sound a v8 that no other engine can match...impracticle...yes...expensive...yes....awesom.... :censored: YES!!!

And youre right maddog...I have full blown bird flu...of the Eagle variety that is ;D...No cure for this disease Im affraid. 8)
Title: Re: Crazy guy with crazy dreams
Post by: shanebo on August 23, 2011, 01:05:01 AM
Hey Hypereagle...what kind of drive train did you stick behind that motor...Im like a year off from getting this EFI build done so Ill have all winter to pour over the details for my next project.
Title: Re: Crazy guy with crazy dreams
Post by: maddog on August 23, 2011, 02:29:31 AM
And youre right maddog...I have full blown bird flu...of the Eagle variety that is ;D...No cure for this disease Im affraid. 8)
the problem is i think i have it to because i want a field as far as the eye can see full of Eagles. :P :help:
Title: Re: Crazy guy with crazy dreams
Post by: hypereagle on August 23, 2011, 08:55:47 PM
Hey Hypereagle...what kind of drive train did you stick behind that motor...Im like a year off from getting this EFI build done so Ill have all winter to pour over the details for my next project.
T5 trans and 207 transfer case from a S10 blazer. it did stand up to my surprise. Even the clutch which was smaller.
Had the largest clutch which believe it or not was from the 1.9L Isuzu. Think it was 9 11/16". The V6 were smaller. Price was right at the time. 2 transmissions and atransfer case for $200.00.  Had to modify release/throught out bearing support. The Eagle bell housing needed 2 other holes drilled and tapped for different bolt pattern of trans. Again ironicly there were boses on the bell housing exactly where the new holes needed to be.
The 207 is a part time dual range transfer case. Unfortunely with only power to the rear axles on dry pavement under hard take offs I broke 3 axles.
 The other flukey part of all this with the SX4 was I was able to use the rear drive shaft for the front. Great because it's some what bigger than the original front drive shaft. The fit was perfect.  Just pure luck.