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Title: what to do about leaky roof trim strip holes?
Post by: tougeagle on May 12, 2011, 10:40:36 PM
My headliner continues to sag worse and worse, and every time it rains hard it's soaked. I discovered today when I pulled back a section in the cargo area where it was the worst, that I could see daylight through the holes in the roof where the trim strip clips go. I want to go ahead and pull the strips, and plug the holes completely, and cheaply. Autozone didn't have any christmas tree clips that worked, and I don't want this to look ghetto, but I'm tired of my cargo area taking on water... any cheap suggestions that DO NOT involve altering my paint?
Title: Re: what to do about leaky roof trim strip holes?
Post by: 83Eagle! on May 13, 2011, 12:28:13 AM
I sent some clips to Duane2171 not long ago that worked well.  They were from Napa.  He couldn't get them in Canada.  They were a part that Autumnglenn found.  Let me see if I can find the info.
Title: Re: what to do about leaky roof trim strip holes?
Post by: tougeagle on May 13, 2011, 12:31:16 AM
I sent some clips to Duane2171 not long ago that worked well.  They were from Napa.  He couldn't get them in Canada.  They were a part that Mojobean found.  Let me see if I can find the info.

And they will provide a water-tight seal?
Title: Re: what to do about leaky roof trim strip holes?
Post by: 83Eagle! on May 13, 2011, 12:38:53 AM
Here's the part number.  In this quote from Autumnglen

I just re-installed two roof strips on my daughter's wagon. I used NAPA retainers #665-1436. The holes in the roof were 3/16 of an inch and these retainer pushed right in without having to make the holes bigger. The heads are round, unlike the originals, but they slid into the strips with just minimal filing on two sides, about 7/16.
Title: Re: what to do about leaky roof trim strip holes?
Post by: 83Eagle! on May 13, 2011, 12:43:03 AM
Yes they will create a tight seal. 

IIRC these ones from Napa that Autumnglen talks about are the ones my body guy used on my roof.  They worked well.  We did decide to use some sealant on the inside portion of the roof.  Duane used them and messaged me that they worked great. 

I am sure he'd answer any questions you might have on how they worked for him.  I used the clips, but my body guy installed them.  That was back in 07 (IIRC) and I have no leaks yet.
Title: Re: what to do about leaky roof trim strip holes?
Post by: 83Eagle! on May 13, 2011, 12:44:20 AM
My body guy installed the clips after he repainted the roof.  I do not see any damage to my paint.
Title: Re: what to do about leaky roof trim strip holes?
Post by: tougeagle on May 13, 2011, 01:03:11 AM
Thanks so much! Have an egg ...

Also... My front passenger floorboard is soaked. As in, water pooled in carpet soaked, and I haven't been able to find any interior leaks other than the roof, from where it could be coming from. It's like this most when I'm driving. The door seems to seal fine, but I can't locate the origin of the leak. No rust through, no major holes in firewall (well there is one I need to seal up but the carpet wasn't wet underneath it so that wasn't it).. any common place it could seep past?
Title: Re: what to do about leaky roof trim strip holes?
Post by: 83Eagle! on May 13, 2011, 01:13:27 AM
Are there any water spots in the headliner?  for water in the floorboards I  would be more likely to suspect a bad door seal or the bottom seal on the windshield.  My Eagle had the windshield issue (it filled up the glove box and floor board) and I remember my old Bronco II had the door seal issue.  But the door seal would be pretty prominent.  And as you say they seem to close tightly.  My Bronco II door seals were pretty hacked up on the bottom.
Title: Re: what to do about leaky roof trim strip holes?
Post by: JayRamb on May 13, 2011, 02:44:41 AM
I used 3M weatherseal (black) and filled around the white clips.
Title: Re: what to do about leaky roof trim strip holes?
Post by: 83Eagle! on May 13, 2011, 08:15:17 AM
I used 3M weatherseal (black) and filled around the white clips.

Yeah that is what was used on the clips on my Eagle.  We put it on rather liberally.
Title: Re: what to do about leaky roof trim strip holes?
Post by: tougeagle on May 13, 2011, 09:20:59 PM
Are there any water spots in the headliner?  for water in the floorboards I  would be more likely to suspect a bad door seal or the bottom seal on the windshield.  My Eagle had the windshield issue (it filled up the glove box and floor board) and I remember my old Bronco II had the door seal issue.  But the door seal would be pretty prominent.  And as you say they seem to close tightly.  My Bronco II door seals were pretty hacked up on the bottom.
I may have to double check the way the door closes.... The seals are not ripped up but if the doors aren't adjusted on the hinges right they won't seal at all because they're very compacted..
Title: Re: what to do about leaky roof trim strip holes?
Post by: thereverendbill on May 13, 2011, 09:42:56 PM
if your never going back to the cargo rack strips I'd go with some of that "putty Steel" stuff, I've had good luck with that stuff 
Title: Re: what to do about leaky roof trim strip holes?
Post by: shanebo on May 16, 2011, 01:31:31 AM
Ya know its funny, Ginger just decided to start leaking too. Im gonna remove those roof strips and clips fill the holes with some body puddy then reattach the strips with 2 sided tape.
Title: Re: what to do about leaky roof trim strip holes?
Post by: 83Eagle! on May 16, 2011, 02:13:26 AM
Ya know its funny, Ginger just decided to start leaking too. Im gonna remove those roof strips and clips fill the holes with some body puddy then reattach the strips with 2 sided tape.

That should work well.  You'll have to grind off the tabs on the trim pieces inorder for that double sided tape to work.  I found that 3M double sided tape works really well.
Title: Re: what to do about leaky roof trim strip holes?
Post by: philotomy on May 16, 2011, 10:35:36 AM
mine had the same issues,I remedied it on a warm dry day and a few dabs of silicone on top of the mount bolts and underneath( I have the headliner delete option though).
Title: Re: what to do about wet carpet?
Post by: Tennessee_Farmer on July 13, 2011, 10:42:53 PM
Concerning the wet carpet, does your AC work?  If it does, the water may be coming from a plugged drain hose from your condenser.  The condenser is under the dash and drains to the outside.  This is the water that drains from a car that is parked after the AC has been used.  Go underneath the car at about the location of the dash and look for a flat rubber tube.  Pinch it to get the trash out and water will start to flow. 
Title: Re: what to do about leaky roof trim strip holes?
Post by: Sunny on July 13, 2011, 10:50:41 PM
Get someone to stand outside your car with a hose, while you were inside. It's helped me find leaks on friends cars.

Also if your carpet has been getting wet for a while, pull it back and let it dry out or you will get mold/rust issues under the carpet.

You might even find you have to replace the carpet if it's been a while.

Basically, pull it back though and get a carpet shampoo'r and do both sides of the carpet, and let it dry out before you put it back.
Title: Re: what to do about leaky roof trim strip holes?
Post by: mudkicker715 on July 13, 2011, 11:02:21 PM
 Why not check the obvious ifits a waggy. It might be the well nuts on the luggage rack