AMC Eagle Den Forum
The Shop => Project Cars => Topic started by: truckboy13 on March 20, 2010, 02:34:31 PM
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Desert Eagle is the knick name that I and some friends gave my eagle lol. any way Im about to emabark on putting a "new" engine in and begin to fix things here and there. so I guess you could say that Im going to be restoring it slowly as I am In school. Me and 2 other friends will be pulling the Engine and replcing it. I will be documenting EVERYTHING lol, with pictures and a spiral notebook that will probably be filled up just from the engine R and R. this is my fist time ever attempting this so Im a little nervous but excited at the same time. hopefully this will begin in the next few weeks. so any advice/tips/do not do this that way/ any other input is great. thanks y'all check back from time to time.
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Good luck on your project. Folks here love pictures.
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You know, I don't think we have, at least I don't remember having, a really well documented engine removal/reinstall project thread. So if you can, that would be appreciated, by many, I am sure.
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@1OldFordMan: I plan on having pictures trust me.
@IE: Im going to try to document it as well as possible. It is going to be a slow going process. I have to rebuild the carb and just do general maintenece first. it will be april before I even get everything ready. im hoping to pick up the engine here in 2 weeks
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Here is a small update: i will hopefully get my engine here soon. i have got a place to store it but not my eagle. i found a 2 and 1/2 car garage on the south side of indy for rent that could serve as my work place. whether or not it is still available idk. i need to know what all i need as far as tools and supplies. and my big question is does the front diff have to come out in order to remove the engine? So far I got the ball rolling... slowly. but it will still be at least 3 weeks until I dive in. advice and " dont do this " things are greatly helpful.
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i need to know what all i need as far as tools and supplies. and my big question is does the front diff have to come out in order to remove the engine? ... advice and " dont do this " things are greatly helpful.
I did an engine swap last fall. I don't recall that there were many special tools required. Lots of wrenches, extensions, etc. I asked the same question about removing the front differential. My advice would be to take it out. Its not that difficult and opens up a lot of room for taking things out and putting them back in. Some of the engine mount bolts are difficult to get to and can only be turned a little bit at a time, and I think removing the differential helps that out. We pulled the engine only, and it wasn't that bad removing the upper bell housing bolts - they are 9/16" bolts, two 12" extensions, a universal joint, and maybe somebody up top to help hold the socket on. I believe we took the top passenger bolt off from up top. Are you putting in a rebuilt engine? Ours was used but not rebuilt so we replaced the timing chain and rear main seal while we were at it. Is the new engine from an Eagle? If not, you'll have to swap over the oil pan and oil pump. Let me know if you have any questions, I can probably recall more if asked. It really wasn't too hard of a job. Good luck!
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@ vangremlin: yes that is VERY helpful advice. the engine Im getting has 80,000 on it if I remember. I am going to replace somethings on iy before it goes in and rebuild the carb. trust any and all help is great. whatever makes this go as smoothly as possible.
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Here is the link to the thread for my engine replacement
http://forums.amceaglenest.com/index.php?topic=21586.30
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That was very helpful man. I want my engine to look that good.
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Im deciding on 2 garages. one is a 2 and 1/2 car garage and the other is a 550 sq ft garage. Im gonna need a decent amount of room to work and store tools plus a small radio cuz who wants to work on a classic car with out tunes lol? hope to hear something in the next few days. once i get a garage the project will start. I do have to get my other car road worthy and all tht so i can drive it. on another note I got out of class early today9 and i will tomoroww as well). it was decent out so i decided to try my AC. to my amazement it still works! from last july. ive never had a car with working AC so this is sort of new lol. i thought it all leaked out. guess not. anyway Im going to have to recover that in order to take the engine out. should i change anything out while the engine is on the stand? like timing chain, water pump ect. im already gonna do a tune up and carb rebuild and replace the valve cover and gasket.
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I would agree with the earlier comment about the rear main, might want to do the front one too while it's out. I'd suggest anything you can afford & that would be a big hassle with it in ( main seals, especially rear, check oil pump, etc. )
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Yeah, the engine out here could look like that... but it's pretty dirty. Going to need to be sand blasted and/or pressure washed with tsome heavy degreasing. The valve cover had been leaking for quite awhile.
I didn't even think about the rear main seal and timing chain... I mean, I didn't notice any leaking from the rear main before I pulled it (just the valve cover), and it ran fine... so my guess is they are both fine... but just like they said... if you really want to prevent a hassle later on down the road... replace the seal and the timing chain as well.
I mean, really, you can deal with the seal leak... it's just be dirty under there... and it doesn't look pretty when you're parked... not to mention all the oil you'll be using if the seal goes. But mechanically, it should function just fine. Now, the timing chain... if it goes bad - you HAVE to replace it.
So idk man... it's whatever you're willing to risk. And from there, it's what's more important. Then what's the biggest hassle.
The timing chain is a hassle if the engine is in, but you can get to it later if need be. The rear main seal... I've never replaced one, but I'd think you'd have to pull the engine to replace that one... and Eagles are notorius for it. Soooo... you do the math man.
And again, if there's anything you'd like me to have done to the engine before you pick it up - let me know. As long as it's not something that's going to take an entire day, you don't have to worry about labor... just cover whatever supplies I may need. (IE valve cover, seal, timing chain, sandblasting/painting)
Keep me posted man!
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@ Mavericke: Thanks ma, ya you might as well blast it and paint it man and do mabe do thetiming chain. if i rememebr correctly the timing chains had to be replaced at 80000 miles? I cant remember lol. as far as color Idk. would love to do that AMC symbol on the sides of it but that would take alot of time im guessing. Ill try to figure out a color today. As far as the valvecove go aheadand replace it man and just give me the final cost of it. Im gonna rebuild the carb and do a tune up. btw is it a holley or a carter? cuz napa has a rebuild kit for both kinds. Ill do the rear main seal and some other things. preventing thngs is my main goal right now. Can't wait to get started on it! Ill see bout getting you some SX4 parts here soon, like I said befre I owe you man. he still wants to ell the one.
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well I got out of class early today, was only there for like 25 mins! got home and called about that 2 and 1/2 garage. its not available and the 550 sqft garage that I emailed about since it had no number to call i still have not gotten an answer.so Im kinda running out of options. so where should I look? does anybody know anyone in Indianapolis with a garage I could rent? I put an ad on a certain list and I havent heard anything. some of my friends have a one car garage but thats too small for this kind of work.any suggestions?
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Hope for a few nice days in a row?? lol
I duno man. it sucks you have no place to work on your eagle. I've been spoiled always having either a heated garage to work in, or a big mechanics shop with a hoist.
Keep lookin man. If I was down your way I'd help you look or offer you my garage and my assistance.
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@mechanic: thanks man. Im gonna keep trying. somebody will have something here I hope. and being in the midwest what is a nice day lol? but seriously im gonna go around this weekend to some storage places and se if they will let me store and work on it for a month or 2. ya ive never been lucky enough to have extra garage space. the only space i would kind of have is my grandpas barn but its full of farm equipment, motorcycles, and who knows what else. and he's in the hospital for the next 4-6 weeks which sucks. thats a whole dfferent story. lotta family stuf going on right now. but I did however put a new ad on a certain list so hopefully ill hear some good news here in the next few days.
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Still no good news with the new ad. just a lot of spam, should've figured. well now what? does anyone think that a storage place will let you work on your car?
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Still no good news with the new ad. just a lot of spam, should've figured. well now what? does anyone think that a storage place will let you work on your car?
From what I heard, depends on the person running the place. I remember one guy in particular on here that did a full drivetrain swap in one of those big containers that are used on trains and ships(you know what I mean??) so It's possible, just not ideal.
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Ya your right but that is looking like what is going to happen. I was hoping for someone's privately owned garage but idt its going to happen that way. Ive been emailing and calling some placea today. though on a friday its hard to get to anybody.
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BIG UPDATE!!!::no sooner did i post that previous comment did i get an email. $50 a month through july for a 10x20 storage unit. I asked about working on my car there,he said yes we have several weekend mechanics. looks like Ive found my garage!!! its one step closer to getting this done i am freaking stoked y'all!!yea!!! and best part is its right down the street a few miles. Ill keep you posted!
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good news bro! congrats!
As for the stuff you want me to do on the engine for ya, I don't mind doin it, but I can't front the costs of the parts... well, except the valve cover and gasket because I have a set sitting here for MY project that I can hijack for now. As for the paint... if you want it red, I have the paint... I may have some balck... I might be able to do the AMC logo... I do have the air brushes for it... but thats an all-day project... I'm not opposed to it - w can work something out later, but first and foremost I need the materials. You're 6 hours away, you could probably send an Autozone gift card to me (so you can see the transactions) or just buy it online and have it for pickup and my local AZ in my name.
I'll work with ya however my man!
Oh and the car is stock... so... whatever came on the 85 limited's.
You have my email... or you can PM me and let me know how you want to transfer the funds for the parts and stuff.
And hey.... you woudn't owe me if you could borrow a truck for the weekend and haul that Ohio SX4 for me!!!!!! LOL!!! FREEEEEE engine, FREEEEE labor, and FREEEE valve cover if you can pull it off, LOL!
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I could order the paint and stuff and pay for it and have it for you at the one closest to you. Still havent heard from my friend so it may be me and my roomate in his truck coming to get it. I may just do some of the work my self to save you you the trouble man also about those hub caps and sunvisors, u still have'em man. its all coming toghther just slowly. i hope to go look at he garage here this week and possibly rent it. its a 3 day school week for me 8) cuz of somethng going on thursday so everyone gets the day off. Im going to try to go home this weekend too. I havent been home in about 2 months and 1 week. BTW, i know im getting ahead of my self with this next comment but, with my original engine wonder what direction I should go with it when I rebuild it? stock/ original, mild build for a bit more power, heavy build, or OMG what was that tan blur that just flew by? Lots of ideas floating but more than likely just a stock rebuild. o and one other thing. Idk if anyone here is familer with these type of alternators but does anyone think a 200 A 28V leece neville alternator can fit on an eagle?
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Idk if anyone here is familer with these type of alternators but does anyone think a 200 A 28V leece neville alternator can fit on an eagle?
You could make it mount up but that is for a 24volt system not 12volt... Sell it and buy a CS130 or CS144 with the profits.
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Agree with wagonhauller.
As for engine stuff.... just go stock so you can have a good reliable engine in faster/cheaper.
As for whatever you want me to do... just let me know man. The engine will just be sitting till then. It's in the barn sitting on a slab of cement looking very lonely, lol!
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@ Wagoneerehauler: ya your right I wasnt thinking. they have heave tem for 12 volt systems. I want one so I can run all my cb stuff without killing my battery and charging system. what is a CS130 and CS144 alternator? and where to get one?
@ Mavericke: ya im planning on doing a stock rebuild cuz it is going to be alot cheaper and easier to build. ill talk to my roomate to see when we can come and get it. m going to shoot to get the garage this week. then mabe get the engine the following weekend. Im just speculating now this now. and mav ill let you kow with the whole replacing some parts and painting thing.
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@ Wagoneerehauler: ya your right I wasnt thinking. they have heave tem for 12 volt systems. I want one so I can run all my cb stuff without killing my battery and charging system. what is a CS130 and CS144 alternator? and where to get one?
@ Mavericke: ya im planning on doing a stock rebuild cuz it is going to be alot cheaper and easier to build. ill talk to my roomate to see when we can come and get it. m going to shoot to get the garage this week. then mabe get the engine the following weekend. Im just speculating now this now. and mav ill let you kow with the whole replacing some parts and painting thing.
That Leece-Neville alternator would be a tight fit in the usual place for an Eagle. And I question whether the 12V stud would provide the amps you need. The 12V stud was generally used in its original applications to turn on a relay which in turn turned off the no-charge light in front of the driver and also enabled some of the accessories like air-conditioning.
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I think I posted contact info on here for the OEM caravelle blue spray paint.
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Maybe not. I have the info somewhere if you want it
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Ya Ill take the info for that if you still hve it.
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As for the rebuild. I'd at least put in an aftermarket cam with a little better grind. Maybe an "RV" cam... little more low end torque which would never hurt an Eagle. :)
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Ya I was thinking that because of how much driving Ill be doing with it. I want to get better gas mileage a well.
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I found the contact info. Don's Auto parts, (262) 658-3737, Caravelle blue, WR-1 amc engine paint, $9.99 a can. When I bought 6 cans I got a few bucks off per can and they take credit cards over the phone. Maybe the moderaters would want to archive this info or maybe even establish a discount vendor status. Could even take a poll and see who wants some and get a bulk discount. If we don't collectively buy stuff then no one will continue to stock stuff we need. Especially since this color was used on all of the less popular AMC cars. Not like the metallic color on the late 60's and early 70's Javs and amx's
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ok Ill order it here in a few days. toda I got rotors and pads for my 97 cutlass supreme SL. I will be driving this while fixing up my eagle. I need to go to the salvage yard thursday to get some bod parts and lights. My yonger brother rearended his friend so now stuff needs fixed. i just got front rotors and pads so itll beable to stop decently. Does anyone happen to know what the torque spec is on Aluminum rims for a 97 cutlass supreme SL? They are the factory rims.
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One of the mech's I work with used to be a by the book kind of guy until a customers car lost an aluminum wheel, due to him using GM's recomended torque spec. I also have lost a factory alloy wheel due to using recomended torque specs......Now, I use the german torque wrench..... 1/2" Breaker bar tighten until my elbow clicks, then I know it's GUTENTITE......
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One of the mech's I work with used to be a by the book kind of guy until a customers car lost an aluminum wheel, due to him using GM's recomended torque spec. I also have lost a factory alloy wheel due to using recomended torque specs......Now, I use the german torque wrench..... 1/2" Breaker bar tighten until my elbow clicks, then I know it's GUTENTITE......
LOL! That's awesome man!
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I guess the german way is the way to go.I do stuff by the books for right now cuz im in school to work on cars. Ill have to look through some books here to find out what the recomended torque is just to be safe and then go from there. Im going to be going to the salvage yard today( its 3:52 AM and i just got off work sleep is lookin pretty good right now) to get those body parts. ill have to load up the eagle with them ad yes i will take pictures because I will hopefully have most of a front clip for a cutlass in and on top of it. It was either use the eagle or my friends 80 something Dodge Omni. i still have not gotten a garage yet cuz of time and school. i may try to get it this week before I go home but I doubt it. this is taking longer than I thought it would but some things will take a while but will be worth it n the end.
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Nothing new so far. turns out the caliper pistons were extended too far out and have to be replaced. I couldnt get those this past weekend and I didnt have the torx bit i needed to take off this one bolt that was pretty much holding it all togther. thanks GM for torx bolts lol! I did however price out new brake stuff for the eagle. I will be getting that here soon. Hopefully i caan get this engine soon aswell.
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Nothing new so far. turns out the caliper pistons were extended too far out and have to be replaced. I couldnt get those this past weekend and I didnt have the torx bit i needed to take off this one bolt that was pretty much holding it all togther. thanks GM for torx bolts lol! I did however price out new brake stuff for the eagle. I will be getting that here soon. Hopefully i caan get this engine soon aswell.
That was going to be my next question for ya! I have to keep "sticky fingers" off of it out here!! LOL! Nah it's not that bad... had stop my brother the day though when when out there and started pulling out the tools to steal the air compressor, LOL! It'll be here man! I may even just bring it to you if you can cover gas... and maybe some burger king too... been craving some burger king for like two months now. The closest one is like 20 miles from here and I NEVER go out that way... I've been tempted to go there just for the burger... but cant get myself to waste the gas on a 5 minute pleasure....
...oh but all the things in life we men give up for 5 minute pleasures. We'll turn around when we're late for work to check out a passing by Eagle. We'll eat ramen noodles for a week just to afford to fund the projects... and then of course there's marriage.... LOL! J/k J/k
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ya man Ive been trying to figure out how to get it here. My one friend said tonight he could drive out there to pick it up but it wouldn't be for at least 2-4 weeks due to the set back with his brand new engine. he swapped an LM3 into his 72 Chevy C10, he has all the stuff for it it was all done nice and neat right? well goes to start it nearly locks it up. stupid oil pump has something with it. everything is falling in line but a lot slower tHan I wanted. heck, i could meet you at the border-of Indiana and Illinois. Ya I would cover burger king man. funny that you mention that cuz we almost went there tonight for dinner cuz it was within walking distance, but due to the rain wind and INSANE amount of lightning( which almost ended my eagle when a bolt struck not far away. i have that 8 and 1/2 foot antenna on it) we went to Culver's instead. I also considered putting a hitch on the eagle but it doesn't have the tow package and with that engine knocking, even though I know it would tow it no problem, i could tow a small trailer with it on it. I'm also getting my other car going as well. only thing that was stopping me was that " brillant'' invention of torx bolts ::). but what ever works best for your and mine schedule .
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Harbor freight... has plenty of torx sets for a decent price... can get you through all your torx headaches.
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O I forgot to put that i had already gotten my torx bits. they are T60's. Im going to buy a set of them from Craftsman. I cant afford Snap on stuff right now even thugh Im going to have to break down and buy a torque wrench from them.
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Harbor Freight also has torque wrenches.
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Snap on is nice, but everything I own is Craftsman... you get what you pay for and I got tired of buying the same tools over and over. Craftsman may not be the best, but every Craftsman tool I own has outperformed my expectations.
Hey man, I'd bring it all the way if you can cover expenses... and actually I know someone that will be coming through Indy with a flatbed this weekend... hmm... if you can swing it... we may be able to have your engine there by like Sunday... let me talk it over with him before I go volunteering someone elses services, LOL!
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that works. I dont have a place to store it right now or an engine stand just let me know. i got n email coming your way
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sounds good man. I sent him an email earlier... he's a cool guy to work with... as long as he's going through there on the way back, I'm sure he'll drop it off for ya pretty cheap. Just gott amake sure you have some way to get it off the trailer, lol! I could see about strapping it to a wood pallet if he can fit in on his flat bed. Then, if you have to.... get a guy on each corner and lift it off... and plan on some straining, LOL!
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UPADTE: Finally getting my new engine this coming saturday, I cant wait. After i found the guy with 20 Eagles I think this project is going to be in full swing very shortly. I cant wait to go back there either.
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Can't wait to meet ya in person bro! Bring the camera! I wish you were making a trip out there again before you come this way..... make you bring me some parts, lol!
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same here man can't wait either man! I'll bring the camera. I my beable to get some parts. late for check back later
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Small Update: Will try to get he engine...again lol may 8th. Got some much needed parts from the guy with 20 Eagles( Im going back there may 1st if anyone wants to come let me know). founda 2 car garage that i WILL be calling about. got another cb that has a little more power than my old one. and thats about it right now. I had finals today and thursday so cant do much thos 2 days. this weekend I can though. O and also got m new hubcaps on.
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Nice! Your engine is still sitting safely waiting for ya! Take your time bro!
Hey, I'll tell ya some parts I need... I need the parts for a hatch on the Kammback. I have the glass, but nothing else. I need the hinges, latch and all that good stuf. I also need the tail lights and trim.
And lastly... a Sprit grill... the cross style. If you find one of those... you'll not only be my best friend, but my hero. Especially if the prices aren't whack.
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I can get you the kammback stuff i think itll be off the rusted out one. its still in good shape the hatch is anyway. I can get lights and stuff too. and for the spirit grille ill have to make some calls and some emails there bud. I can get one but it may be a while.
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Oh yeah and on that Kammback... I need a rear piece of glass... the driver's side back window.
If I get those things from you... then I'll have everything I need to totally restore the rarest Spirit there is! Woot!
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So mav if everything goes the way we want it to then we shouldnt run into any "surprises" when putting in the engine. Once this engine is in i can actually sleep better knowing that there isnt a rod knock going on. and people will quit giving me crap about the rod knock lol.
as far as Kammy parts go you need: the rear hatch hinges,the drivers side back glass,Tail lights, and trim. By trim do you mean the trim around the tail lights and do you just want the entire kammback hatch. Either way itll be a trick getting that in/on top of the eagle.
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Ill take the entire hatch glass if it's a decent price... but I really only need all the pieces attached to it including the latch and hinges.
About the trim... yes, I need the lights and the trim that surround them.
And don't forget about fog lights! :)
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friday is my last day of internet so if i dont update for a while that is why. if you need to send me an email, my email is [email protected]. Hopefully the next post will be about my new engine being installed.
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sorry lol, already own the original desert eagle, has the tan tank paint and everything
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sorry lol, already own the original desert eagle, has the tan tank paint and everything
LOL!!!!!!!
Hey, one of you can just add an "s" and have a "Dessert Eagle"... yummy!
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lol. well i guess there is nothingwrong with 2 desert eagles. although mine is called that because Ive always wanted to go to the desert out west. its the first place im going to when I graduate college. Ive wanted to since i was a kid and I dont know why lol. I did see pics of yours and i gotta say you have given me some ideas not to mention its just plain cool. Mav would like it.
so I got my new CB antennas. they are 12 feet tall but by the time tuning and all that is done they will be between 9 and 11 feet tall. new radio goes in sunday. new engine next saturday. going t be a good week. I will ahve pics of the antennas and engine install and probably a write up on the engine install as well as for any other CB Eaglers on the radio and what/ how I did everything. I may have a pic of my antennas just a sec.....(http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww251/truckboy13/antennas.jpg) cool it worked. ok the one on the left is my 102 inch whip. the 2 on the right are my new ones. 12 feet long, 1/4 inch outside diameter, stainless steel.
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Nice... Im looking forward to you setting my truck up with a bad@ss CB setup!
PS - make your bed and clean up your dang room! LOL!
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Ill set you up with an awsome cb set up trust me. It may not be when i come out thisweekend but deffinately will. i will have to pick up my other engine that we pull out. My new radio is in but the new coax isnt run yet and there is not power to it yet. it startd to rain yesterday on andoff so thas about all the farthest we got with it. My friend knows alot more than me about CB's so ill ask him whats the right antenna,radio, coax ect. for the job. chances are you probably dont want an amp.
and yes my bed is theone against the wall and i did make it shortly after the pic was taken lol.
Im getting new plugs,wires,fuel flter,PCV valve, cap, and rotor today. If you can try to get my the numbers on the engine block. It may help with the timing chain. I still cant figure out which one. Im going to go ask again.
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Ordered the parts I needed today. will be here tuesday/ wednesday depending on were the are coming from. total was $177 and some change. definately spent alot LESS than I as intending, which is always good. I know im looking a lil far ahead but I think the next thing after the engine is either going to be suspension or weather seals. Obviously both will be expensive. suspension more than weather seals. But if I do weather seals next I dont know how to do those nor do I really want to do them mysel. im not a body guy lol. they are both important.
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weather seals are easy... they're like legos... they snap right in man.
Do them first. Cheaper and easier and your suspension isn't going to rot out your door jams.... get the seals done first. :)
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yea the seals is wht im going to do frst then. Im in need of a rear hatch seal desprately. I think one day im going to go get in my car and ducks are going to be swimming on the cargo cover. I think i can get everything as far as seals, but I dont know where. i had sent a email once but have since lost it to a guy that has the seals.
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Have you checked the Whitney book for something comparable? If its listed for any hatchback it should work but you can match up the shape for something close
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Have you checked the Whitney book for something comparable? If its listed for any hatchback it should work but you can match up the shape for something close
Thats what im looking at right now. Im thinking a concorde wagon from the 70's would be similar if not a hornet. I would get the seals for the newest one possible.
I got ALL the parts for the new engine this afternoon. It was like christamas all over again ;D
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Congrats man! You can buy rolls of universal seals really cheap at auto stores. They have an adhesive on the back and they work really well. Just a thought!
We still on for this weekend?
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Yea as far as I know this weekend is still good. I got friday off. Besides the parts wht else should I bring ? I got 2 OEM manuals plus an original chilton from the 80's for AMC Eagle's.
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Im sure you will think of this when you buy ther oil like we talked about in texts on the phone... but get an oil filter and fuel filter too. They're cheap. And air filter.
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ok Ill get those today. Im Going to my current teachers s performance shop today so ill probably go frm there to get some oil and stuff. BTW the carb thts on the new engine probably uses the round air filter right? The webber I have on there needs a rebuild andbecause of tht the airfilter is bad but I cant find a new one for it ANYWHERE. So i just anted to put a stock one back on.
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Yup it's stock.
And you may be very happy because you may get to take alot of that stuff back... AND you may get my best engine out here. Of course, you'll owe me the tiny price of YOUR SOUL, but regardless... you will be extatic. It's all going to boil down to time. But... I'm about to paint my wagon and I want to pull the engine out of it to paint the engine well... if I pull the current engine, I'll install my stroker... and the engine that's in it now is the best I6 I have ever driven. I swear dude. It idles a little high, but she purrs like a kitten! I'm still contemplating if we'd have the time to pull that one and put it in yours... but it's a sure fire way to KNOW you get a GREAT engine. I'd really like to keep my 80' engine for my next stroker build and the one I pulled out of the Millenium Eagle worries me. I mean, I'm 90% sure it just needs a timing chain... and it ran fantastic... but I'd hate for that small chance of us installing it and it not firing up.
However... my brother and I think we can start the engine on the big engine stand... if so, then we'll try that if you want. Whatever. We have options when you get here.
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Awsome tht its stock man! Just let me know man. Im going to bed. Ill call u 2maro.
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new engine has been in for 2 weeks now. runs great. there is a LONG story behind it. there is also alot of dont do's. and do this things. I have limited acess to computer so I dont really have time right now to do a big write up but will do as soon as I get the chance. Also a BIG thanks to MAV and his Brotherfor everything!! you guys rule!!
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LOL yeah.... LONG story... trying to forget as much of it as I can, LMAO! Still haven't posted a write up on it... haven't been on much myself since it's been so nice out. Just been working on the ENS and the house.
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Yea I'm trying to forget it myself lol. BTW the final I had the next week. I ACED it lol. but any way yea Im going to try to do a write mabe tomoroww. I can say right now top of the list of don't do's is DO NOT HAVE A DATE SET TO HAVE IT DONE BY WHEN REPLACEING AN ENGINE!!!!!!!!!! have something else to drive and a back up plan in order because YOU WILL have unexpected things happen, you will become angry at your eagle( for a short time), and you become stressed lol. so take my advice if you think it may be a weekend project, so say 3-4 days at most. plan for at least a week or more. and also know your torque specs on stuff( Mav I know your going to make fun of me on the torque spec thing lol) and take note of vacuum line routing carb linkages, TRANSMISSION LINKAGE.and also replace as many parts as you can while the engine is out. it will save you the headache later. ok Im rambling. Mav I think you have the pics right? could you upload some of them mabe if you get the chance please?
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Alright well I still havent had time to do a full write up and like I said before probably wont for a little while. Im in the process of fixing up my Eagle and my Olds Cutlass so I have little time to do that right now. well I do have some bad news about my wagon, it appears that it may have a bad front main seal as from where its leaking and getting on the belts thats what it appears to be so I need to get that fixed. but any way some good news. Im putting in a new half-shaft on Tuesday and am going to order a new trans mount as this one is bad again because it swelled from all of the oil getting on it. the valve cover does not leak any more. Theres always something to fix and luckily my Eagle has taught me an important skill... patience.
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well I do have some bad news about my wagon, it appears that it may have a bad front main seal as from where its leaking and getting on the belts thats what it appears to be so I need to get that fixed.
Its much easier to fix a bad front main seal than a bad rear main seal! Its good being an optimist!
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BIG UPDATE AND BAD NEWS: front seal stopped the leak up front.. now the back is leaking REALLY BAD. The damage has been done though. I need a new harmonic balancer and trans mount. along with that list is a new half shaft that needs put in, new blets, a carb rebuild and tune the carb. seeing how my cutlass will be driving this weekend im going to end up driving it... and probably sell the eagle. NOW before people start telling me not to sell it, heres my situation: Im going to school 4 days a week from 2:15 PM-10:15PM. I cant fix the rear main while in school cuz it will take more than 4 hours. I could move it and park it out side but I need a car to get back and forth to work and this would be at least a 2 day project. so I cant do it. next comes the storage issue. I would need to store here in ohio or at my grandpas barn in Michigan. well the barn is full and I cant store it here in ohio because I wont be around often enough to work on it. I cant park it in the street at my parents place cuz the neighbors are already complaining about my cutlass sitting there for 8 months and my dad doesn't want it sitting around for that reason. plus I work 5 days a week and make enough to pay for rent, gas, and car insurance. So you now see my situation. So I really have no option but to sell it, I REALLY want to keep it but its not gonna happen.
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DRAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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yup its a bummer i know. but this doesnt mean that i wont get another one. I plan on that.
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ill buy it, only a few hundred bucks tho, if you interested let me know
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I pretty much have it sold right now to a guy who used to have an eagle but sold it a long time ago. Like I said before I AM Forcing myself to sell it against my own will( if that makes any sense at all) in order to save me money and a headache in the long run and get me to finish and graduate automotive school without having to worry everyday about whats gonna happen next. Now I knew it was showing its age but I wasnt expecting it this soon. Now this DOES NOT mean I'm done with eagles forever, actually I would consider it my beginning with them. I learned alot with this one, and learned some valuable lessons along the way. so now once I graduate in september Im going to get another one so im just kinda taking a break to get my stuff straightened out.
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I thought you were going to sell the wagon a while ago but then I found new links where you were working on it. Main seals are no simple project either. It almost always ends up being a rebuild from what I have heard. You know those," while I'm at it", deals
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i got a rear main seal replaced, 500 for everything, it became a rebuild
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yea its pretty much at a stand still. Im home this weekend to get my other car. Im going to TRY to break even on the eagle. I bought it for $2000( I know I over paid don't remind me lol) so thats wht im selling it for. ALL the parts i need are sitting at napa right now i just have NO money to buy them. so I guess for a little extra i could include those parts. I fear I may have to take a loss on this. I dont want to sell it but i graduate tech school in september and just need the money and possibly a newer vehicle. idk yet anyone have any ideas at all?
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whats up everyone? well I've got good news first is first I still have the Eagle and its still at a stand still...for right now. I have to remove the engine again to replace the rear main seal and do a few other things. second thing is I graduated automotive school and am now applying for jobs. anyway I'm going to be starting to get parts next week. it's been crazy the last month and a half and shows no sign of slowing down in the near future lol. so here is a pic of what it looks like now. still the same as before dent and all. I have all the hub caps for it but they are inside.(http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww251/truckboy13/AMC2.jpg)
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Note all the oil under it. thats how bad it leaks oil lol.
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Congratulations on finishing school. Now you can put your new skills to use for fun and profit.
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exactly what i'm going to do IE.
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Well I have some good news after a 2 months. I started a new job at a shop and am making money so because of this I have started to buy parts again, what I have so far is: 2 emblems, 1 rear washer nozzle, 1 half shaft, 1 valve cover gasket, and 5 feet of vacuum line( It was all they had tonight. I'm buying 10 more feet saturday)What I still need to buy: manual transmission mount, harmonic Balancer, harmonic balancer repair sleeve, Carb. rebuild. This is for starters so I can drive it daily again. More good news is that the oil leak IS NOT a rear main seal.I also need to figure out why there is no vacuum to the 4x4 switch and why my reverse lights don't work. they worked before Me and Mav. took the engine and transmission out but they havent worked since so I think we forgot to hook something up. any ideas on where to start?
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1 rear washer nozzle
Where did you get it?!!!!!!
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1 rear washer nozzle
Where did you get it?!!!!!!
I have a friend that has 23 eagles and he let me have one. I think you can get them new but they are like $30
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Ok time for an update: Im actually moving here soon and will have a place to store it and work on it out of the weather. I have already bought the following new parts but have not installed them yet to to the whole moving thing. New cork valve cover gasket, 5 feet of vacuum line, speedi sleeve set( will be a life saver later on lol).I'm getting a transmission mount next week and I may order a new harmonic balancer. Napa does not have a harmonic balancer for the eagle specifically but they have one for the cherokees with the 258 but Idk if it will work cuz its balanced for a cherokee not an eagle. I also have to go out to mavs and get my old engine soon. and btw my wagon didnt come with factory fog lights but im looking at installing some that look like factory. Idk what brand to go with? i like alot of Hella, and KC stuff any Ideas?
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I have some updated photos as well im going to try to find them and up load them within the day....
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Rust In Peace. It was hauled to the junkyard. there was little to nothing i could have done. The story is in Pit stop
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I have been reading your progress since you joined the nest and I am sorry to see it all come to such a sad end. It's too bad more people don't know about the fatal rust areas before they buy. I'm positive given your initial enthusiasm that were it not for the rust you would be the proud owner of a mint Eagle by now. Even if this experience causes you to give up on Eagles I'm sure you are a car guy for life. Best of luck to you.
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I meant to rest in peace lol. it had NO RUST what so ever. I TRIED to find some but i never could. This has not made me give up on Eagles or AMC's It has actually made me want one even more believe it or not. I now have a lot of knowledge on what to do and what not to do. It was all made possible by everyone here on the nest and I am in fact looking for another one to have as a daily driver but due to how wide spread everyone is and the availibility of AMC's here in central ohio it may be a little bit of time and the price of gas has factored into it as well so I think i may have a honda in my future but another eagle is definately in my future.
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Back from the dead with you, there wasn't any story I could find in the Pitstop. Does anyone know what happened?