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Offline captspillane

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Re: Shift on the fly switch on 81 sx4
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2012, 02:28:54 PM »
The plug in the back of the shift lever is interchangeable, so it could have been replaced without modifying anything else in the system. The difference between on the fly and not on the fly is the collar of the front axle. If your wheel is spinning and the driveshaft isn't, you won't be able to slide the collar over. That's the only reason you have to stop to shift. The first two pictures show the collar that has to slide over. The transfer case itself did not change at all because that has the capability of meshing and sliding into gear while its spinning. This doesn't happen immediately since it takes several revolutions to line up, but the vacuum motor puts steady pressure on the gear until it happens. The vacuum motor then continues to put a slight pressure to keep it engaged.

If you have a front axle disconnect, you can put a hose clamp on the shift fork and then eliminate the vacuum lines to it. The last picture shows the hose clamp I installed on mine. As long as the collar is in place your axle is ready to go and essentially the same as the solid axle in the "shift on the fly" models.

I also eliminate the shift function on all of my Eagles. The 119 and 129 are both capable of being true all wheel drive. Some people quote a difference in wear and tear and fuel mileage, but realistically there just isn't a noticeable difference. The whole reason I drive an Eagle instead of a Jeep Cherokee is because they are designed to stay in four wheel drive without any adverse effects on the car. It has saved me from serious injury several times. To eliminate the 2WD function remove the vaccum motor and use rope to put a constant and steady pressure on the shift lever. It will pop into neutral and the car won't move if you do not have that steady pressure.





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Re: Shift on the fly switch on 81 sx4
« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2012, 03:19:03 PM »
Thanks, ya that's what I was thinking. I was kinda hoping that there was no way that you could change the switch without changing everything else but whatayagonnado.

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Re: Shift on the fly switch on 81 sx4
« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2012, 09:06:59 PM »
Advantages to changing to shift on the fly:
-you don't have to stop to shift, though like you stopping doesn't bother me;
-locking in the front axle eliminates the possibility of it jumping out when you need it;
-you can eliminate several sources of vacuum leak;
-you are more assured of shifting into 4x4 when you need it because now it is just up to the transfer case.
Disadvantages:
-having gear oil run down your arm when making the change. ???
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Re: Shift on the fly switch on 81 sx4
« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2012, 11:43:28 PM »
I want to put a cable shifter on mine (since it's already a vacuum axle in it) like Posi-lok. But if it's not 3.08 (or close) ratio, then it's coming out for the non-vacuum one I have anyways.
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Re: Shift on the fly switch on 81 sx4
« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2012, 11:11:38 PM »
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Re: Shift on the fly switch on 81 sx4
« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2012, 11:44:21 PM »
Thanks man!

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Re: Shift on the fly switch on 81 sx4
« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2012, 11:50:59 PM »
no prob! Got sidetracked trying to upgrade my computer this week and forgot to post them. (curse my Dain Bramage!)
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