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Offline Hawk258

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Oil Cooler
« on: November 06, 2011, 03:41:23 AM »
has anyone played around with the idea of running a remote Filter and oil cooler in their birds? I am curious as Someone recently posted considering a 3 core, I am debating on the same thing but am also curious if a 3 core with an engine oil cooler would add miles to the engine as well as lower the amount of work the water system has to deal with in the process. This is just a bit of brainstorming atm.


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Re: Oil Cooler
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2011, 07:24:35 AM »
If the cooling system is in good condition, they do a great job of cooling an Eagle. The only reason I could see for an oil cooler is if the vehicle is used in harsh conditions like racing, high compression  or if a turbo is added. Too cool of oil isn't good on an engine. If you were to do it, make sure you install a thermostatically controlled bypass valve to make sure the oil gets up to temp before heading to the cooler.
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Re: Oil Cooler
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2011, 12:58:39 PM »
Thanks for that E.F. I figured that would be an issue. I just considering "Long term" additions that could prolong the engine life and improve on the water cooling ability. Even though I am not looking to make a HP build or a dedicated "Rally Racer" I would like the idea of having better cooling for my whole system, I do realize that a slightly higher oil pump would also help to be added as well, to handle the change in demand.


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1981 AMC Eagle (Currently in need of a bellhousing OR the project to iron it's self out)

1982 Subaru Brat White (Daily driver inheritence from mom ((Don't worry mom I won't break it))
other prior vehicles include:
1985 Dodge (OMNI) charger
1979 Dodge Ram Charger
1985 Dodge Diplomate
1982 Subaru wagon
1980 AMC Spirit
1982 AMC Eagle wagon (Was going to be parts car)

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Re: Oil Cooler
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2011, 06:51:21 PM »
Here's a little info on oil cooling. It pertains to a Ford 2.3L but is some is somewhat universal. It is from this website: http://www.esslingeracing.com/catalog/tech-section.pdf

"The oil pressure we recommend for most racing engines is 50 to 70 pounds hot at racing speed.
@7000 RPM
Maximum Oil Pressure 70 psi - Engine at racing temperature, throttle wide open.
Minimum Oil Pressure 50 psi - Engine at racing temperature, throttle wide open
Excess oil pressure does three things:
1. It wastes power.
2. It raises the temperature of the oil.
3. It puts extra strain on the oil pump drive components.
Oil Temperature
180-190 Good
250-260 Danger
285-300 Big Problems - Oil breaks down very quickly and soon will become vapor.

We don't like to see the oil temperature exceed 250 degrees and prefer to have the oil temperature stabilize
around 220 degrees.  An oil temperature gauge is a very good investment because it will show if you need to do something extra to cool your oil or keep it at a reasonable temperature.  Also if the oil temperature raises or jumps up more
quickly than normal, it can indicate eminent bearing failure.  Another thing to consider is that you don't want to run the oil
too cold - under 150 degrees.  The oil doesn't lubricate very well and foams very quickly.  To minimize oil related failures
it's important to warm the oil before running the car at high RPM and high horsepower levels."
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1986 AMC Eagle Wagon 4.2L/4.0L head, AW4,NP242, Chrysler 8.25" rear.
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Re: Oil Cooler
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2011, 02:34:20 PM »
Thank you, I am sure this will help me make an informed decision when the time comes, and hopefully helps someone else


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1981 AMC Eagle (Currently in need of a bellhousing OR the project to iron it's self out)

1982 Subaru Brat White (Daily driver inheritence from mom ((Don't worry mom I won't break it))
other prior vehicles include:
1985 Dodge (OMNI) charger
1979 Dodge Ram Charger
1985 Dodge Diplomate
1982 Subaru wagon
1980 AMC Spirit
1982 AMC Eagle wagon (Was going to be parts car)

 

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