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Eagle Gallery => Your Eagle(s) => Topic started by: thebanshee89 on April 28, 2012, 01:16:00 AM
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I just bought my first amc eagle, (named her the banshee) :hello2: and im quite happy with my find :) a 1984 wagon auto.
everything thing that's been done to it.
-truck bed liner and painted grey
-after market off roading lights in the front on the roof, grille guard and on the back for the roof for reverse
-all the vacuum tubes were removed from the carb and caped off runs awesome
let me know what you think. im slowly working out the kinks, (exhaust manifold is cracked, and clean the motor)
eventually i would like to put in a jeep motor and drive train.
I'm new to the amc community so anything i should do to it let me know! thanks!
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the interior is immaculate!
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not too bad, great score ...... the wheel covers are AMC eagle ;D
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Looks in good shape.
The one thing I'd do if it was mine, is I would rip off the fake hood scoop instantly.
I can't stand them.
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Looks like a great deal. Is that a Jeep Liberty light bar on the roof?
The one thing I'd do if it was mine, is I would rip off the fake hood scoop instantly.
I concur.
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Congrats on your purchase and joining the Eagle community. I had seen this car for sale on C-List in Greeley, CO. It looks like you have the exact same grille guard I do!
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Welcome and congrats on the Eagle. It is a very nice color combination. Can we get some close up picks of your roof lights? They look really nice like that. Don't think I've seen that on an Eagle before.
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No A/C and a tach... interesting! Looks very clean!
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I just bought my first amc eagle, (named her the banshee) :hello2: and im quite happy with my find :) a 1984 wagon auto. (paid 1,000 for this sweet ride!)
everything thing that's been done to it.
-truck bed liner and painted grey
-after market off roading lights in the front on the roof, grille guard and on the back for the roof for reverse
-all the vacuum tubes were removed from the carb and caped off runs awesome
-no name rims
let me know what you think. im slowly working out the kinks, (the transfer case pops into four wheel drive occasionally, exhaust manifold is cracked, and clean the motor)
eventually i would like to put in a jeep motor and drive train.
I'm new to the amc community so anything i should do to it let me know! thanks!
FYI: You already have a jeep motor in it.
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Those off road lights on the roof almost like the ones you could get on the Jeep Liberty Renegade...they look great! These do have the same motor as the jeeps of that era but many folks here have either completely swapped in a 4.0 engine or did the 4.0 head swap which can turn out pretty descent numbers and still keep within a budget....Congratulations on an awesome eagle and welcome!
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thanks for the tips. as for the hood scoop i actually like it haha so its staying. i know its the same motor as the jeeps but i would like an upgrade eventually to a efi set up and lift it for light off roading. ill be going to back school in a couple of years and this will be my project. yes i am in the general area of colorado im actually located in cheyenne wyoming. i got the luck of being stationed here ha. i gave the steering wheel cover and that ugly zebra print windshield cover to the previous owner. as for the valve cover i already saw first hand the ungodly leakage. i have the fortunate luck to have a junkyard with 4 of these beautiful cars put to rest and are just sitting there begging to be pilaged. as for the tach sadly it doesnt work :( going to work up the motivation to take apart the dash to figure out why its not.
things i worked on this week.
-fixed the old cracked valve cover with one taken out of the junk yard in great condition just had to clean all the crap off. so much built up grim on it.
-replaced to exhaust and intake manifold gaskets to start it up to only find out that my problem lies with in the manifold itself (a crack) :banghead: waste of four hours replacing gaskets and cleaning intake and exhaust manifolds.
-changed oil and oil filter. (stupid sales associate sold me an oil filter to the four cylinder model) :banghead:
Left to do next week
-pilage a used exhaust manifold and a new driver side arm rest from junkyard (the one in it now is purple... doesnt match ha)
-figure out tach issue
-do a transmission filter and fluid change
-replace two light bulbs on roof lighting so it will be even brighter ;D
-clean up engine and get all the grim build up off of the front undercarage.
so far im happy besides the occasional problem of car wont go into 2wd and i have to guzzle gas in 4wd. i keep having to go under the car and manually switch it back with a wrench anyone know if i replace the vacuum on the transfer case will this fix that problem?
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Those off road lights on the roof almost like the ones you could get on the Jeep Liberty Renegade...they look great! These do have the same motor as the jeeps of that era but many folks here have either completely swapped in a 4.0 engine or did the 4.0 head swap which can turn out pretty descent numbers and still keep within a budget....Congratulations on an awesome eagle and welcome!
thats awesome do you know if i could just do a direct swap or is there any modification needed to be done? i would love to do this. the junkyard in town has plenty of inline 6 jeep cherokees! id obviously do a rebuild of the donor head but is there any modifications? id love to know!
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Tougeagle did a very in depth write up of his head swap but Ill be darned if I can find it right now. Theres only 2 major things that need mods, your new exhaust and the water ports on the head. Here is a pretty descent write up on this conversion i have stashed in my favorites. http://www.monsterslayer.com/pages/jeep/40Head/40Head.htm
P.S. make sure you put in a 4.0 cam to get the most out of the head swap. The 4.0 cam has much beefier lobes than the 4.2 and will allow the heads to perform at their full potential.
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When you're off-roading remember that tree branches and roof lights don't mix.
I don't think that's a problem in Chyenne.
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Left to do next week
-figure out tach issue
I haven't heard of anyone that has successfully fixed a tach that wasn't working. I recently discovered that a Ford F-150 tach makes a nice replacement and is an easy swap. Pick one up while you're at the local junkyard. Here is my How-To on doing the swap.
http://forums.amceaglenest.com/index.php?topic=38475.0
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Tougeagle did a very in depth write up of his head swap but Ill be darned if I can find it right now.
http://www.amceaglenest.com/~iowaeagl/guide/index.php?title=Converting_to_4.0L_cylinder_head%2C_EFI_and_cam_-_manual_transmission (http://www.amceaglenest.com/~iowaeagl/guide/index.php?title=Converting_to_4.0L_cylinder_head%2C_EFI_and_cam_-_manual_transmission)
found ;D
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http://dandavidson.net/wp-content/uploads/p27673-Cheyenne_Wyoming-Wyoming_Untouched.jpg When you're off-roading remember that tree branches and roof lights don't mix.
I don't think that's a problem in Chyenne.
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I take it all your off-roading is done in your home state? ;D
haha this gave me some laughter. actually cheyenne is nothing like the picture depicts. we have a park allot of off roaders go to and none of my buddies think the ol' eagle could keep up with their rigs ha.
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I haven't heard of anyone that has successfully fixed a tach that wasn't working. I recently discovered that a Ford F-150 tach makes a nice replacement and is an easy swap. Pick one up while you're at the local junkyard. Here is my How-To on doing the swap.
http://forums.amceaglenest.com/index.php?topic=38475.0
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thanks for the info! the tach actually moves just doesnt read right. if that makes sense? ha thoughts?
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http://dandavidson.net/wp-content/uploads/p27673-Cheyenne_Wyoming-Wyoming_Untouched.jpg When you're off-roading remember that tree branches and roof lights don't mix.
I don't think that's a problem in Chyenne.
I take it all your off-roading is done in your home state? ;D
Good point. I've taken mine to GA, AL, CO and I'll be taking it to NV in a week or so.
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thanks for the info! the tach actually moves just doesnt read right. if that makes sense? ha thoughts?
I picked up one like that in the junkyard yesterday - it moves but definitely not right. It seems to have a mind of its own.
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Looks like you got a nice deal on the Eagle. The PO did a nice job with the lights and the push bar. Looks real good!
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Looks like you got a nice deal on the Eagle. The PO did a nice job with the lights and the push bar. Looks real good!
thanks man! plan is two batteries and more lights! and of course a bigger alternator haha. its gonna be the zombie survival car
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-do a transmission filter and fluid change
You might not want to do that, if it's never been done, all of that crud in there might be holding your transmission together hah. You might change it and your transmission fails not too long after. Unless you have the service records, it's better off not to touch it in my opinion. I've seen way too many transmissions fail after a flush or fluid change.
My grandfather was a transmission mechanic for 45+ years and really tried to talk a lot of customers out of doing it on old cars with no service records, or high mileage cars. If you aren't having any problems with it, don't try to fix what isint broken. If you are having problems, there's a chance it'll just make it worse.
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-do a transmission filter and fluid change
You might not want to do that, if it's never been done, all of that crud in there might be holding your transmission together hah. You might change it and your transmission fails not too long after. Unless you have the service records, it's better off not to touch it in my opinion. I've seen way too many transmissions fail after a flush or fluid change.
My grandfather was a transmission mechanic for 45+ years and really tried to talk a lot of customers out of doing it on old cars with no service records, or high mileage cars. If you aren't having any problems with it, don't try to fix what isint broken. If you are having problems, there's a chance it'll just make it worse.
That happened to me with an Ford van I bought. It drove great. I decided to do the "right" thing and replace all fluids and filters. A mechanic friend told me not to touch the transmission for the same reason Sunny stated. I didn't listen and the transmission slipped after the filter change. I wound up selling it shortly after.
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i have heard LOTS of these stories about the trans messing up after fluid/filter change. i have done 2 eagles, and my wifes mountaineer. i guess i got lucky. mine all shifted TONS better and ended up getting a little better mpg. my wifes mountaineer (picture ford exploder with better suspension and ALL the fancy stuff ford could throw at it including 5.0 v8, and the aode) it had 153xxx miles on it, and od was crap. shuddered, in and out in and out constantly. the ASSEMBLY LINE trans dipstick tube plug was still in the trans pan. when i pulled the pan, i didnt know WHERE that came from. asked the transmission shop around the corner from my house, they told me thats a plug ford put in the dipstick tube on the assembly line. it had NEVER been changed. after the filter/fluid change, everything works perfect and went from 17.5 hwy mpg to 22 hwy mpg. thats with a 5.0 v8 and AWD. my 83 sx4, i dont know what it did for mpg as i did gronks 2150 carb on it along with the tfi and trans filter/fluid change. it went from 14 hwy mpg to 20 or 22. i forget now.
Idk ive only worked on older 80's cars and i have always done a tranny flush. never had any problems. plus this beauty only has 104,000 miles. ill think about your advice but i think im gonna go ahead with it. I am a firm believer in preventative maintenance.
on a different note has anyone successfully replaced the transfer case with a different one? that doesnt have these problematic vacuum issues? i keep having to go under my car and manually switch it back to 2wd and i dont even touch the 4wd switch...? any ideas on replacing with a different one or anyone know if napa sells new ones?
i guess my point is, its maybe a hit or miss. the crud may be holding it together, or holding it back. do you feel like your in vegas and want to play the rulet?? if it shifts fine, and feels fine, i probably wouldnt mess with it. if its slugish, or slipping, it will only get worse no matter what. i see a fluid/filter change as a resort that wont make it any worse, but MAY speed up the time for repair??
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oh! and please stay tuned for more close up pictures and what not tomorrow evening im going to go through and take lots. let me know if theres anything in particular anyone wants to see :)
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good news i did a tranny flush and filter change and everything works 10x's better! cleaned up the engine and washed the Banshee today. i got so many compliments today and everyone still stares because of the exhaust manifold crack. :( gonna fix that sometime soon. thinking of just switching over to the 4.0 head along with a new manifold.
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how dirty the old filter was forgot to take a picture of the new one in comparison lol
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No vac advance on the carb? ???
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No vac advance on the carb? ???
no :) i removed all the vac lines runs so much better :P
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So where did you set your timing if there is no advance? Seems like it would be missing at speed or idling too high.
Sorry for the questions, just interested in your set up. Nice looking car by the way, except for the hood scoop, I never really cared for those things too much anyway.
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its set with a screw like a carb should lol. my buddy set it all up. ill get back with you on all the details.
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and yeah i like the way it looks. im actually going to modify the hood so it will be a working hood scoop and going to use a different filter.
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the vac advance to the dizzy is quite important at cruising speed. it makes it to burn more efficiently, and have better power and respond to throttle input better. there are only 3 vacume lines you NEED on an eagle. manifold vac for power brake booster and 4x4 engage/disengagement. then the vac advance for the dizzy. if your car is not running very well with the vac advance hooked up and under cruise, you have to much initial timing and need to dial it back just a little. just my $.02.
thanks ill go over everything again. he did it on his suzuki samurai. everything seems to be working fine. we capped off everything i dont know the specifics on everything he did. but everything seems to work great.
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Possible to have converted to mechanical advance? Just asking, don't know enough about distributors to say.
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all i know is that when i put the carb back on it worked thats all i cared about lol. i only have an issue occasionally when the steering wheel is turned to far it stalls.
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car is now for sale!!!!!!!!!!!