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Title: My first insult
Post by: macdude443 on August 27, 2012, 08:13:52 PM
I was at the paint shop the other day matching up some weatherstripping and a regular came in to buy paint.  He was doing some work at the counter and must have overheard our intense conversation about cross sections and what not.  He says "What re you fixing up, an old Blazer?", to which I reply "Nah, an AMC Eagle."  He says "Oh. They stopped making those for a reason."  No one laughed or really payed any attention to him after that.

Not much of a story, but this is the place to tell it!
Title: Re: My first insult
Post by: eagleman on August 27, 2012, 08:57:11 PM
Yeah. They stopped making Olds and Pontiac too! Wonder if he feels the same about them? I believe I would have told him to kiss off! My tolerence for those kind of people is rather short!
Title: Re: My first insult
Post by: Prafeston on August 27, 2012, 10:21:05 PM
Several of my friends say that same thing. They just don't understand. All they know about AMC are the few bad characteristics they have had. No one seems to want to acknowledge the fact that pretty much the same 258 engine was used in the Cherokee up until 2000.
Title: Re: My first insult
Post by: eaglebeek on August 27, 2012, 11:22:24 PM
I can't wait to see today's cars matching our Eagle's 165k miles and 28 years with the same grace that our Eagle has.

I used to own an International pickup. The smart-aleck at the counter of what was then the friendly local house of parts derided the pickup as "Inter-trash-onal". When I sold the pickup it had 200k miles on its original engine and was being driven daily.

I don't know what became of the pickup, but the parts house is out of business. Would one suppose this attitude is why the parts house is out of business ???
Title: Re: My first insult
Post by: eaglefreek on August 27, 2012, 11:29:32 PM
Man, I never hear comments like that. I'm kind of hoping for one, so I can put them on the spot and make them feel like a moron.
Title: Re: My first insult
Post by: mach1mustang351 on August 27, 2012, 11:41:43 PM
I get this comment a lot.  I honestly catch quite a bit of crap for the AMC... go figure
Title: Re: My first insult
Post by: carnuck on August 28, 2012, 02:50:04 AM
I can't wait to see today's cars matching our Eagle's 165k miles and 28 years with the same grace that our Eagle has.

I used to own an International pickup. The smart-aleck at the counter of what was then the friendly local house of parts derided the pickup as "Inter-trash-onal". When I sold the pickup it had 200k miles on its original engine and was being driven daily.

I don't know what became of the pickup, but the parts house is out of business. Would one suppose this attitude is why the parts house is out of business ???
I call them Intersmashables and more, but I still have 2 1/2 of them! ;)
I'm driving one to the scrapyard soon (I'm hoping I get an Aircast for my upper arm tomorrow so I can get back to getting things DONE! The one on my forearm made life MUCH better! Wish I'd found it earlier today!)
   The '71 Loadstar 1800 would make a great Eagle hauler (18' tilt deck could handle 2 SX4s and a hitch could haul a big trailer too!)
Title: Re: My first insult
Post by: shanebo on August 28, 2012, 03:57:26 AM
I get that too from time to time and it always gets under my skin....I had a kid say basically the same to me at a parts store....you can only imagine how funny it was when I saw him pedaling to work one morning on a cheesy 10 speed. The next time I stopped in I made a point to compliment him on his sweet ride and how my 12 year old niece has one just like it.
Title: Re: My first insult
Post by: shaggimo on August 28, 2012, 09:19:01 AM
I had one parts guy say something negative when I said I needed something for the eagle. I politely aske him why the distaste, he really didn't know what to say, so he just blabbered "they're a pain to find stuff for".  I politely said to the lad, "well, maybe if you knew how to do your job properly, you wouldn't have such a hard time." He didn't like that very much  :rotfl: . I then proceeded to show him how to find what I wanted, and actually showed a little gratitude for doing so.
Title: Re: My first insult
Post by: mach1mustang351 on August 28, 2012, 10:37:52 PM
I had one parts guy say something negative when I said I needed something for the eagle. I politely aske him why the distaste, he really didn't know what to say, so he just blabbered "they're a pain to find stuff for".  I politely said to the lad, "well, maybe if you knew how to do your job properly, you wouldn't have such a hard time." He didn't like that very much  :rotfl: . I then proceeded to show him how to find what I wanted, and actually showed a little gratitude for doing so.

Always with the parts guy hate ;)
Title: Re: My first insult
Post by: dkoug on August 28, 2012, 10:57:05 PM
Chev Dealer

When I drove a 89 Buick La Sable not problem with the boy's out back to help keep it on the road.
 Replaced it with my 82 Eagle and just got ridiculed and no tech would help on the few occasions I could use some.

The funny/sad part they where dropping engines, transmissions and rear ends frequently on a few year old GMC cars still probably not paid for.

dkoug :amc:
Title: Re: My first insult
Post by: macdude443 on August 29, 2012, 01:02:42 AM
The common comment I get is "There is still an AMC Eagle on the road?"
Title: Re: My first insult
Post by: mach1mustang351 on August 29, 2012, 02:55:22 AM
The common comment I get is "There is still an AMC Eagle on the road?"

One of my favorites for me is "you have an AMC Eagle?" then I reply "I have two"
Title: Re: My first insult
Post by: maddog on August 29, 2012, 03:31:38 AM
the one i hear the most is "what kind of car is that?" and when i tell them it's an AMC Eagle i get "never heard of it, what company made it?" then when i tell them American Motors Company i get "who?" and then those that do know what it is either say how much they miss the one that they used to have or one a family member used to have or i get the "why would you want to own one of those?" to which i reply "because it's a cool car" which usually gets a confused look.
Title: Re: My first insult
Post by: TheWraith on August 29, 2012, 07:20:20 AM
...He says "What re you fixing up, an old Blazer?", to which I reply "Nah, an AMC Eagle."  He says "Oh. They stopped making those for a reason."...

Shame you didn't think to remind him that the Chevrolet Blazer is not longer in production either. ::)

I'd like to ask him how many vehicle models have been in production since the dawn of the automobile.  I can think of zero.  All models have their production run, some just longer then others.
Title: Re: My first insult
Post by: shaggimo on August 29, 2012, 08:27:47 AM
I had one parts guy say something negative when I said I needed something for the eagle. I politely aske him why the distaste, he really didn't know what to say, so he just blabbered "they're a pain to find stuff for".  I politely said to the lad, "well, maybe if you knew how to do your job properly, you wouldn't have such a hard time." He didn't like that very much  :rotfl: . I then proceeded to show him how to find what I wanted, and actually showed a little gratitude for doing so.

Always with the parts guy hate ;)

 :rotfl: I myself am a parts guy (gm dealer) so I have a very low tolerance for that sort of thing. I try my best to be civilized though ;D lol.
Title: Re: My first insult
Post by: mach1mustang351 on August 29, 2012, 10:00:07 PM
I had one parts guy say something negative when I said I needed something for the eagle. I politely aske him why the distaste, he really didn't know what to say, so he just blabbered "they're a pain to find stuff for".  I politely said to the lad, "well, maybe if you knew how to do your job properly, you wouldn't have such a hard time." He didn't like that very much  :rotfl: . I then proceeded to show him how to find what I wanted, and actually showed a little gratitude for doing so.

Always with the parts guy hate ;)

 :rotfl: I myself am a parts guy (gm dealer) so I have a very low tolerance for that sort of thing. I try my best to be civilized though ;D lol.

Yep Everyone knows more than the guy behind the counter. 
Title: Re: My first insult
Post by: Ohio AMX on August 29, 2012, 11:38:21 PM
I was at the paint shop the other day matching up some weatherstripping and a regular came in to buy paint.  He was doing some work at the counter and must have overheard our intense conversation about cross sections and what not.  He says "What re you fixing up, an old Blazer?", to which I reply "Nah, an AMC Eagle."  He says "Oh. They stopped making those for a reason."  No one laughed or really payed any attention to him after that.

Not much of a story, but this is the place to tell it!
Let people think that. More Eagles for the rest of us!  :occasion14:
Title: Re: My first insult
Post by: Whuntmore on August 30, 2012, 01:53:35 AM
I don't get alot of haters, I'm lucky in the fact that quite a few people in this province had these cars at one time or another.  Another good thing is this is 'Redneck' province and city.  Anything 4x4 is good here.

Now, I will run into the odd idiot, who thinks it's a pacer, but so far, most of it has been pretty good encounters.
Title: Re: My first insult
Post by: DaemonForce on August 30, 2012, 05:22:50 AM
Now, I will run into the odd idiot, who thinks it's a pacer, but so far, most of it has been pretty good encounters.
I encounter this more than anything around here. The worst part is the horrible problems with this car STILL aren't over. I really need to redo the whole vehicle. It's seriously becoming scrap-worthy.
Title: Re: My first insult
Post by: mach1mustang351 on September 01, 2012, 10:33:38 PM
One of my employees had a part sitting on the counter I immediately identified it as a Subaru part (I'm a long time parts guy).  He asked if I knew so much about Subaru's because of working on my Subaru... I paused... thought a minute... and asked if he thought my Big Wagon was a Subaru.  In his defense in his world the only 4x4 car he has heard of is a Subaru.  I will always take an opportunity to teach.
Title: Re: My first insult
Post by: shaggimo on September 04, 2012, 09:46:37 AM
I will always take an opportunity to teach.

That's all it takes, many stores (and dealerships) around here do not do that anymore. Back when I first started in the parts world, I was told not to even think about using the computer, books only until I completely understood how to use them. Everyone was trained that way, there wasn't a bad parts person in the store. Times changed, computer system changed, management changed, of course then training changed, it then consisted of "play around with the computer, if you can't find it, it's not available". Dealerships can be even worse, especially commission based ones, they throw you to the wolves and tell you to figure it out on your own. Guys above you, want you to be dumb so they can make more (just like flat rate techs). Anyway, lol, good to hear you're willing to train your employees.
Title: Re: My first insult
Post by: carnuck on September 04, 2012, 11:51:38 AM


That's all it takes, many stores (and dealerships) around here do not do that anymore. Back when I first started in the parts world, I was told not to even think about using the computer, books only until I completely understood how to use them. Everyone was trained that way, there wasn't a bad parts person in the store. Times changed, computer system changed, management changed, of course then training changed, it then consisted of "play around with the computer, if you can't find it, it's not available". Dealerships can be even worse, especially commission based ones, they throw you to the wolves and tell you to figure it out on your own. Guys above you, want you to be dumb so they can make more (just like flat rate techs). Anyway, lol, good to hear you're willing to train your employees.

Happened to me when I worked at the Ford dealership. The mechanics started coming to me at the walk-in customer desk because the back counter guy kept getting them the wrong parts (3 wrong, then the right) to pad his sales. He walked into the main office and demanded I be fired.
Title: Re: My first insult
Post by: jim on September 04, 2012, 01:15:22 PM
I was at the paint shop the other day matching up some weatherstripping and a regular came in to buy paint.  He was doing some work at the counter and must have overheard our intense conversation about cross sections and what not.  He says "What re you fixing up, an old Blazer?", to which I reply "Nah, an AMC Eagle."  He says "Oh. They stopped making those for a reason."  No one laughed or really payed any attention to him after that.

Not much of a story, but this is the place to tell it!
Where I come from insulting a man's car is not quite but almost as bad as insulting a man's wife, mother, dog or gun.
Title: Re: My first insult
Post by: maddog on September 04, 2012, 08:27:30 PM
i got a new one today concerning Eagle Eyes a new girl at work told me she's surprised my car runs at all considering how it looks. she looked surprised when i told her looks ain't everything because i don't care how it looks as long as runs and drives.
Title: Re: My first insult
Post by: TheWraith on September 05, 2012, 06:50:03 AM
i got a new one today concerning Eagle Eyes a new girl at work told me she's surprised my car runs at all considering how it looks. she looked surprised when i told her looks ain't everything because i don't care how it looks as long as runs and drives.

I'm afraid we live in a throw-away society now.  That's why all the i-somethings come with a sealed case, so you can't change the battery when it won't hold a charge anymore.  All of my wife's friends are dumbfounded because I repair the house and the cars myself.  They've tried to borrow me as their husbands are fairly worthless.  I tried to help a couple of them out but 'kids' these days do not want to learn, they just want someone to do it for them.  After a couple of those experiences I gave up as I have my own to-do lists at home.

My wife's car wouldn't start after work one Friday.  I picked her up and hauled the car home with the truck and trailer.  Before I arrived her weasel of a boss was trying to tease her and asked what I was going to do with the car, fix it?  She told him flatly that she would be driving it to work Monday...and she did.  Her boss was astonished and had a hard time understanding that I repaired it at home.  What an idiot.
Title: Re: My first insult
Post by: drock87 on September 05, 2012, 11:28:35 AM
The common comment I get is "There is still an AMC Eagle on the road?"

ALL THE TIME!! Or..."I haven't seen one of those in 20 years!" Yeah, ok......
Title: Re: My first insult
Post by: Whuntmore on September 05, 2012, 01:16:56 PM
Here's one:

I was 'talked' into bringing my eagle to a 'Show n' Shine' last year (more like told to by my car club), and someone took a picture of it, posted it on Flicker, and started a 'does this belong at a car show' topic.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/daveseven/6190114959/

Now I'm sure it was more of "is this car in showroom shape" kind of comment, and not "does an eagle belong at a car show" but it did get some good replies from other people - Including me.  I also posted (under the user name Whuntmore) and I got some others defending that it should be there.

Title: Re: My first insult
Post by: drock87 on September 05, 2012, 01:34:52 PM
it did get some good replies from other people - Including me. 

Good for you! First of all, our cars are worth defending. Besides our Jeep friends, there really is not another borderline-classic car that drivers use both for collectability and utilitarian uses. Great article from the NY Times a few years ago stating this....I think the article is in the archives; if not, I will provide a link.
Title: Re: My first insult
Post by: George Mann on September 05, 2012, 04:00:50 PM

I encounter this more than anything around here. The worst part is the horrible problems with this car STILL aren't over. I really need to redo the whole vehicle. It's seriously becoming scrap-worthy.

Perhaps you should find another in better condition, and use the one you have now as a parts-car.
Title: Re: My first insult
Post by: maddog on September 07, 2012, 03:00:09 AM
well that girl at work found out just how well Eagle Eyes runs today when she couldn't get a ride to the closest gas station from anyone else.
Title: Re: My first insult
Post by: macdude443 on September 07, 2012, 08:43:53 PM
Throw away society is right.  Being 24 I see it all the time with my generation.  On weekends I work at a small record store repairing turntables and stereos for people.  Since it's in a college town we get a lot of customers (the kids are into LPs, as am I).  I see those :censored: USB turntables all the time.  They're built terribly and sound mediocre at best.  I can't fix them because they don't offer parts or service manuals and everything is press-on plastic.  The sad part is, I see older guys throw away their nice older Technics, Denons, Duals, JVCs all the time because they wanted to buy a new turntable (typically the $10 belt just needs replacing, or it needs a $20 stylus).  What do they buy?  They buy this disposable POS USB thing with a plastic platter, bushings instead of bearings and a $15 cartridge while their nice, better sounding, better built Technics rots in a landfill.  "But this one is new.  Newer is better." they say.   :banghead:
Title: Re: My first insult
Post by: macdude443 on September 07, 2012, 08:45:03 PM
And don't get me started on those old timey-looking ones.   ::)
Title: Re: My first insult
Post by: macdude443 on September 07, 2012, 08:54:07 PM
There used to be something called "brand loyalty".  Everyone knew that if you wanted a nice TV, you bought a Sony.  Even their tagline was "It's a Sony." for years.  If you wanted a good blank tape, you bought Maxell or TDK.  You knew that Pioneer, Marantz, Nakamichi and Sansui were top names in audio and you saved and saved to invest in a nice system.  You also bought them in stores that specialized in audio and would let you test what you wanted to buy.  Now it seems no one cares.  The majority buys their headphones from whatever Wal-Mart offers at the lowest price.  The headphones break in a month and they go right back and buy the same no-name brand again.  After three pairs they could have spent that amount once on a name brand pair that would not only be built betterand last, but most likely sound better, too.  I've seen those USB turntables at Staples.. an office supply store.  How does that make any sense?

With so many "green" young people, they should really think about were their cell phones end up when they ditch them in a month for the next new piece of crap that only has slightly better features than their last one.  The companies plan it that way to appeal to the least common denominator.  Sadly, most consumers now fall into this category.

I'm done ranting.  I could go on for hours on this topic.  My apologies if I offended anyone.  I just tells it like I sees it.
Title: Re: My first insult
Post by: maddog on September 07, 2012, 10:53:18 PM
i'm 29 and i don't get why people do this i have a Panasonic record player from the 80's that i was given four years ago because they said it was obsolete and no one uses records anymore. i still play 33's on it and it still sounds good, heck i still have a working VCR which is from the late 90's (also a Panasonic). unfortunately most things these days are designed to brake or quit working after a year or two so that you will go out and buy a new one just to do it all over again.
Title: Re: My first insult
Post by: captspillane on September 07, 2012, 11:16:50 PM
I think brand loyalty died when every brand name decided to start selling the exact same junk as the no-name companies. It's the way of the world. Benchmade used to be a top of the line, US made $300 to $800 knife brand. Now they have the Benchmade butterfly on a $100 overseas made knife. It's still the best you can get for the price, but there isn't much difference between that and any other junk name. "Remington" is written on the worst knife I ever owned. It's the cheapest most unsafe terrible knife ever made and they stuck a familiar name brand on it. The best part is that not a single Remington employee is probably involved in the knife. The firearms company probably just sold the rights to the name to a Chinese company and forgot about it. It is getting harder and harder to find any company selling stuff designed to be maintained and repaired.

I'm 25 years old. It's interesting how different we are than the typical people our age, but that's exactly why we love AMC Eagles.
Title: Re: My first insult
Post by: macdude443 on September 08, 2012, 06:48:51 AM
...but that's exactly why we love AMC Eagles.

Amen
Title: Re: My first insult
Post by: Zoro on October 09, 2012, 05:54:15 PM
Had a guy insult mine in the parking lot awhile back. Can't remember exactly what he said but it was somewhere along the lines of "I hate those AMC's they are junk!" I noticed that he got out of a KIA of all things and replied "Well I'd like to see hour your KIA holds up after 30 years and 250k miles." After that he was speechless 8)  ;D
Title: Re: My first insult
Post by: TheWraith on October 10, 2012, 07:20:41 AM
i work at an automotive repair shop...one guy who thinks anything with wheels and an engine is junk...

I've known people like this.  People who choose a job and then hate it are just unhappy people.  Wish they would quit and go away.  They are the kind of people that could win a huge lottery and still be unhappy.  Go figure.

I just have to laugh. :P
Title: Re: My first insult
Post by: shaggimo on October 10, 2012, 09:30:47 AM
i work at an automotive repair shop...one guy who thinks anything with wheels and an engine is junk...

Guilty  :-[ Can't stand new cars, they're all throw away junk, love to see anything old roaming the streets though, amc, gm, ford, chryco,  even imports.  8)   

On the other hand, pretty much everyone I work with (between two shops) agrees with this theory, if they weren't junk, none of us would have jobs, so we're happy and greatful they're all junk  :rotfl: .
Title: Re: My first insult
Post by: DaemonForce on October 10, 2012, 11:26:18 PM
^^^^ thats his thoughts!!! he hates ANY cars now days. lol. not ALL cars really. he is just hiarious to listen to. nothing but a cuss fest, and the craziest things come out of him. he basically has no preferance. all vehicles have their own issues.
From what I've learned, the news cars are engineered to be throwaway. The older cars usually outlast their owners. I know my Eagle has outlived at least 3 owners now. The issues aren't really the vehicles themselves. They just suffer the wrong owner or driver.