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Title: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on June 09, 2011, 03:25:47 AM
*Keep in mind while reading this: I (clearly)knew practically nothing about cars when I got my Eagle, but I've learned a lot along the way and know most of this thing inside and out by now ;D. Please excuse the utterly naive posts!
OK, well I ended up buying my SX/4 today, just got it home a couple hours ago! Was an all day affair, but it went pretty smoothly. Will try to get pictures up tomorrow.

So there's a long list of things that need to be done to it. Mostly small things, but still a lot. Here they are:

-Exhaust needs to be installed, have it
-wheel cylinders for rear disc brakes are leaky and need to be replaced
-brakes should be gone over to make sure they are working, probably replace lines at least
-button on shifter doesn't work, so it won't move up and down into gear correctly
-emergency brake seems to be frozen or something, but still have to fiddle with it
-driver door handle outside doesn't open door
-I think fuse for trunk release is bad, needs replaced
-needs air filter
-needs battery(was replaced by the guy, but it didn't hold a charge til we got home)
-carb could probably use a tuning, but works as is
-needs cleaned up inside & out(will do tomorrow since I can't really start much else yet)
-driver mirror is hanging off and needs to be screwed in. Screw is there, but rusted tight. Could use WD-40
-paint could use some touch ups, possibly be redone in future
-right side of front bumper and left side of rear bumper are broken/missing
-tires might be ok tread-wise, but one or more seems to be flat after pumping up
-vacuum lines should be gone over
-does not have air-conditioning installed, was removed when the engine was replaced.
-wheels aren't too pretty, definitely need a scrubbing at least
-I need to figure out how to work the seats  ;)
-eventually will need registration, inspection, and emissions

On top of these things, it does have some rust underneath. Mainly the worst parts are the floorboards on both driver and passenger sides, which should be patched/welded. Other than that it seemed pretty solid including the frame and rocker panels. I still have to check it out in better light, but I believe it's manageable.

On the up side, the radio works and sounds great  ;D Haha, but seriously, we saw it run and it had an ok idle. Like I said it could probably use a carb tuning, but it sounded good for the most part. Was even running partially on 7 year old gas, so it could get better with new gas. Should most likely have the oil changed.

I got it for $900, but it came out to about $1150 after all other expenses- gas for the trip, tow, and title transfer. Got lucky with the tow since they gave us the 4 wheel dolly for the same price as the 2 wheel at U-Haul. I was an idiot and overpaid the gentleman for the car by $100, but he actually told me when i came back to pick up the car and left it in the glove box for me. I was astonished with and grateful for his honesty, not too many people would do that nowadays! It's gonna be a lot, but I'm totally willing and can't wait to get started tomorrow!

Here is my Eagle's Album on Photobucket:
http://s1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Draekon on June 09, 2011, 12:33:07 PM
Congratulation on the buy!  I'm excited to see some pictures
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on June 09, 2011, 02:43:00 PM
My baby!
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-06-09_11-49-08_970.jpg)

Other side
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-06-09_11-48-52_861.jpg)

Left side
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-06-09_11-49-24_704.jpg)

Rear end
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-06-09_11-49-39_344.jpg)

Hood w/scrape on front
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-06-09_11-49-59_749.jpg)

Rust bubbling on driver side SX/4 decal
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-06-09_11-50-13_368.jpg)
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: shaggimo on June 09, 2011, 03:15:02 PM
Looks fairly decent!
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Prafeston on June 09, 2011, 07:30:33 PM
I'll be watching this one! :)

Can't wait to see the progress!
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on June 09, 2011, 08:30:05 PM
Well today I did a few things. I figured out what was wrong with the shifter and moved it into park. I also vacuumed, cleaned out, and washed the car. Even found the original key underneath the driver side mat in a pile of insulation! I adjusted the transfer case from underneath to manually put it in 2wd since it was in neutral for moving, but I'm not sure how it turned out since I couldn't turn the car on.

The battery needs to be charged which is why it wouldn't start I think. The engine wasn't even turning over, and some of the lights barely turned on, so it must really be dead. Hopefully it will hold a charge, I don't want to have to get a battery for it already.

I could not figure out for the life of me how to get the hood open for some reason this afternoon. I opened it this morning, but it seemed stuck after that. There's no hood release inside the car (that I could find). What I was doing was trying to squeeze the 2 levers together in the front, but they wouldn't budge. It was also extremely difficult to get my fingers under there this time. Any info on this would be greatly appreciated.

Unfortunately, today was ridiculously hot, especially with the black leather interior, so I didn't get to work as much as i could've. It also started raining about an hour and a half ago, so i lost a couple hours of daylight there. I would've done some of the other jobs, but I currently don't have any tools, including a ratchet or wrench set. My brothers have tons of them, but I don't quite yet. I really wanted to go out and get tools and parts so I could do the bigger jobs, but I don't have another car and couldn't get anyone to take me. I'm home from college for the summer, so I have plenty of time to get this running, but I really want to do it as fast as possible. Can't wait til tomorrow, hope it doesn't rain!  :-X
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: thereverendbill on June 09, 2011, 11:31:52 PM
WOW! both rear end caps SCORE!  I have a few blue fronts sitting here if you need one
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on June 10, 2011, 12:31:02 AM
Actually Bill, I was mistaken about that. It does have them both, but only one is in good condition. The left one is pretty busted up unfortunately. I was looking at the two bumper pieces that stick out. It's also missing one in the front as well. Pretty disappointing, but oh well.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on June 10, 2011, 12:35:36 AM
I have a few blue fronts sitting here if you need one

Ah, just realized you said this. That would be great if you could hold one for me, I'm missing the front right endcap. Do you know if they're needed to pass inspection?
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: 83Eagle! on June 10, 2011, 12:50:17 AM
Looks to be a decent SX/4.  Glad that if it had to be missing an end cap it was a front one and not a rear.  Rear ones on  the SX/4s are a little scarce.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: shanebo on June 10, 2011, 01:14:34 AM
Ive been looking high and low for a descent SX4 for years....They dont pop up too much anymore. Thats one lucky find as well as a great save!!!
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on June 10, 2011, 01:41:24 AM
Ive been looking high and low for a descent SX4 for years....They dont pop up too much anymore. Thats one lucky find as well as a great save!!!

Yeah, it was tough getting to and getting home, plus there was some opposition from my family, but all went smoothly and hopefully will have it up and driveable in a few weeks!
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Draekon on June 10, 2011, 11:58:41 AM
There should be a hood release inside the car.  The handles commonly break on them though, so you may need pliers to pull it.  Its located on the bottom of the dash, to the right of the steering column
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on June 10, 2011, 03:42:45 PM
Yeah, I thought that was it... the cable must be seized up on that because I pulled pretty hard on it and nothing happened. Will try that again soon. Just spent most of the day out getting parts and tools, but I hope it doesn't rain.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on June 10, 2011, 08:17:00 PM
Ok, I got the hood open, and I also found out that the trunk release works, it just wasn't doing anything because the battery was dead. I also got the screw out of the mirror that was rusted and stripped so I could mount that on the post.

I actually got to drive the car today, just got back from taking it around the yard! Boy, was that a great, smooth, and fun ride. Even with flat tires it was better than my old car on the road! Also saw that there were a lot of hoses not connected to anything. The air filter wasn't on when I was driving, it still needs to be cleaned. Got a few more things to add to the table:
-needs oil change BADLY(along with new filter)
-needs engine mounts, the engine was moving too much at idle.
-need to figure out where all the hoses go, they are not all the same since it's a '95 Wrangler engine
-need to clean the cap off for the brake fluid, it's all rusted and dirty looking
-needs new battery cables, and probably battery
-will need spark plugs eventually
-not sure about the gauges, none of them seemed to move when I was driving

Going to take the wheels off now to check out the brakes...
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on June 10, 2011, 09:58:52 PM
Will need new drums for the rear wheels along with a hardware kit. Got the wheel cylinders today and brake pads for the front.

Also, the oxygen sensor was on the car but not connected to anything. Does anybody know if this Wrangler engine takes an oxygen sensor? If so, where does it connect to and should it use the part for the Wrangler or the Eagle?

My real question should be: What components need to be Jeep specific parts since I have a Wrangler engine?
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on June 10, 2011, 10:44:49 PM
Here is a video of the car driving: http://s1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/?action=view&current=4Driving.mp4

Didn't want to push it too hard since the exhaust isn't on, the air filter wasn't installed, and the brakes are bad. You can probably see the muffler hanging when I drove it. Still, it does well off-road!
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Prafeston on June 12, 2011, 11:51:43 PM
Well it drives! That's a start. Now to get it road worthy! :)
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Whuntmore on June 13, 2011, 12:13:22 AM
Awesome!  you're driving it already.  You work fast...  ;D
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on June 13, 2011, 12:49:34 AM
Haha, well I just wanted to see if it did drive. Still have lots to do, but I'm waiting on parts from RockAuto and some other sites. Ordered a Magnaflow catalytic converter and glasspack muffler as well  ;D I should have the brakes done by the end of the week, or as soon as the parts get here. I already disassembled and reassembled both rear drum brakes to inspect them and make sure I could do the job right when the new parts get here. Ordered all new assembly for the rear brakes: drums, hardware kit, adjuster kit, shoes, lines, left side parking break cable, and hose. Also got rotors and hoses for the front, as well as pads from Advance Auto. Got some other parts as well, all new lug nuts and studs, motor mounts, thermostat, pcv valve (all from RockAuto), Strong Arm struts for the rear hatch, and an air filter from advance auto.

I replaced the exterior driver door handle today and mounted the driver mirror up, then tightened both mirrors. Also thoroughly cleaned the cap for the brake master cylinder yesterday, it needed it badly. Still need to degrease the engine.

There are a couple things stumping me in the engine compartment ???. There are 2 thin hoses, black and green, that don't go to anything. One comes out of the dash area, the other I'm not sure of. There are also a bunch of other electrical cable connectors that don't match, but aren't connected to anything either. The only thing I can think of for these things is the gauges in the dash, which haven't seemed to be working.

Also, the O2 sensor isn't hooked up to anything and I have to check that out.
I will get pictures of the engine up soon.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Draekon on June 13, 2011, 12:44:20 PM
If your O2 sensor isn't hooked up, then there is a good chance that your computer was bypassed, meaning you now have a non-feedback carb on it (or the stepper motor has been disabled).  Some of the other disconnected wiring could be related to this.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on June 13, 2011, 01:01:40 PM
If your O2 sensor isn't hooked up, then there is a good chance that your computer was bypassed, meaning you now have a non-feedback carb on it (or the stepper motor has been disabled).  Some of the other disconnected wiring could be related to this.

Would this be a problem, or does it not matter?
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Draekon on June 13, 2011, 03:08:26 PM
If your O2 sensor isn't hooked up, then there is a good chance that your computer was bypassed, meaning you now have a non-feedback carb on it (or the stepper motor has been disabled).  Some of the other disconnected wiring could be related to this.

Would this be a problem, or does it not matter?

The only problem it could potentially cause is with emissions.  Technically you are required to keep the computer in the loop for emissions, but I've never heard of anyone getting in trouble for it.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on June 13, 2011, 07:57:16 PM
Hmm, I'll have to figure this out then. My county in PA requires emissions testing, and PA is strict about everything ::)
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: thereverendbill on June 13, 2011, 08:09:34 PM
I have a few blue fronts sitting here if you need one

Ah, just realized you said this. That would be great if you could hold one for me, I'm missing the front right endcap. Do you know if they're needed to pass inspection?
to be honest I don't know, I would think not but some of these inspection agents don't like older cars and look for a reason to fail anything older than 10 years.  I have a good friend of mine that does the inspections on MY cars and I take anything that my wife drives to my work where they look over everything with a fine tooth comb (norminaly costs me around 200 bucks in repairs)
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on June 13, 2011, 08:28:48 PM
I definitely have my work cut out for me. I'll have to try repairing my left rear endcap, since they're so rare and expensive. My parts should start coming tomorrow, so I can get started on other things. I replaced the fuel filter and battery cables today, and also put on a new gas cap. Also tried taking the dash apart to get to the gauges, took me like 4 hours to get it apart and back together and there was no point since everything seemed to be connected.

Anyone have any tips for troubleshooting the speedometer/gauges? None seem to be moving when they should be.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: philotomy on June 13, 2011, 09:40:26 PM
Was the speedo cable connected to the instument cluster when you inspected it? how about under where it attaches to the tailshaft/back of the transfer case
let me see if  ican load a pic of what to look for
(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g205/philotomy/IMG_61531.jpg)
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on June 13, 2011, 09:57:03 PM
I was just under there and there was a cable attached to the transfer case. I didn't check to see where it went to, but I'm pretty sure it was attached to the gauges since I couldn't pull them out of the dash. Thanks for the info though.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Draekon on June 13, 2011, 11:04:00 PM
Anyone have any tips for troubleshooting the speedometer/gauges? None seem to be moving when they should be.

The technical service manual has a chart with steps to troubleshoot different issues with the gauge cluster.  If you don't already have a TSM, you should consider buying one.  It'll be a good investment
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on June 14, 2011, 11:17:32 PM
I just checked Drive Clean Pennsylvania's website and found out that my car only requires a Visual Check and a Gas Cap Test in Montgomery County. The visual check is to make sure all emissions equipment is there and installed correctly. The gas cap test is to make sure the gas cap doesn't leak (shouldn't be a problem since I just got a new gas cap).
http://www.ahs2.dep.state.pa.us/aq_apps/emissions/testinfo.htm

Of course I'll have to check to make sure everything is connected properly, and I'll still have to figure out the O2 senor.

I ordered a manual from the "bay". I would've gotten the one from the Nest, but it costs about 3 times what this one did, and I'd like a paper copy anyway to have out when I'm working.

I got a new catalytic converter, but this one is universal and doesn't have a hose. Will this be a problem?
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/84672633_photobucket_42433_.jpg)
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: shanebo on June 14, 2011, 11:40:35 PM
No, it should'nt be any problem as far as the car running as long as you cap off the rest of the pulse air system...As for emissions, I cant say for certain how much they will be effected.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on June 15, 2011, 12:24:39 AM
New Drums and Rotors ;D
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/84672633_photobucket_42389_.jpg)
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/84672633_photobucket_42388_.jpg)
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on June 15, 2011, 12:26:12 AM
No, it should'nt be any problem as far as the car running as long as you cap off the rest of the pulse air system...As for emissions, I cant say for certain how much they will be effected.

I'll have to check out the system then. Guess I'll proceed in installing this cat.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: shanebo on June 15, 2011, 12:47:00 AM
Im gonna need drums and rotors too....and probably calipers and hoses as well.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on June 15, 2011, 02:32:19 AM
DANG, sounds like your making good progress FAST. if your on your summer break from school, at the rate your going now, you just might have you a real nice dd by the time school starts again. keep it up as best you can. sounds like maybe this car isnt to terrible bad?? im LOVING this save. keep it up.

I'm hoping to have it ready for inspection within about 3 weeks. Needs a LOT of minor things, but nothing too big I can't handle. Trans only has 700 miles on it, and engine is about 30,000. I can't wait to be able to drive it, it was so much fun to go around the back yard in!

Only things that might slow me down are shipping times and $$$ :-\
Not to mention rusty bolts...

This is the worst part:
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/84672633_photobucket_42406_.jpg)
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/84672633_photobucket_42407_.jpg)

It will get welded up though, along with my floor pans. The other side is better:

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/84672633_photobucket_42404_.jpg)
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/84672633_photobucket_42403_.jpg)
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/84672633_photobucket_42402_.jpg)

The great part is that I've gained more automotive knowledge this past week than in my entire lifetime :)
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on June 15, 2011, 02:42:32 AM
Im gonna need drums and rotors too....and probably calipers and hoses as well.

I think I might need calipers too, but didn't get them yet. Got hoses and installed one, but couldn't break the other loose from the line. My drums and rotors came out to about $167 from RockAuto after shipping, but I got the hoses and a thermostat in the same shipment.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: juhap on June 15, 2011, 07:30:58 AM
I think that this is the worst place to repair, if you do it well.

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/84672633_photobucket_42406_.jpg)

There are several layers of metal. If you just clean outside and paint it, the rustproblem is still in there. It would be good to peel all outer sheet metal off and then use sandblasting or citric acid to take rust away.

Inside of that is "easy" to do. Just cut floorpan and do rustremoval job. Then weld new floorpan. Paint and rustprotection covers all jobs done. Voila´.

It looks like this inside of the frame.

(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l590/jpihkanen/eagle/013-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on June 16, 2011, 12:44:32 AM
Good info! I plan to take all of the rust off thoroughly before having to weld everything into place. Got plenty to do...

I finally got the other brake hose off and installed the new one today. The rest of my rear brakes come tomorrow, can't wait to do them. I may go buy calipers tomorrow as well, and get all the front brakes done.

The inside lever piece from my door handle (that I just replaced) has started coming loose already, so I'll have to have my brother weld a piece on to fix that. I got my new hatch struts on and they work great, but the trunk release stopped working again  :-[ I guess it wasn't the battery after all, but maybe I just did something to it when I took the dash off.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on June 17, 2011, 12:16:51 AM
Got the rear brakes on today, just need one of the parking brake cables and new brake lines still. I need to go get calipers for the front so I can finish them. Also put new lug nuts and studs on the rear wheels.

Anyone have any ideas on what I should do for the exhaust? My new universal cat has 2.5" ends, and the old one connected with bolts. I also have the 2" glasspack muffler. I need something to go from the cat to the muffler and I'm not sure what pipe to get. So basically the obstacles are:

- bolt plate end (from old pipes) to new 2.5" cat
-2.5" cat to unknown pipe (stock exhaust takes it from the right to the left side)
-unknown pipe to 2" glasspack muffler
-tailpipe (I have one which I think was stock, but I don't know if there will be room)
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on June 20, 2011, 12:29:47 AM
This is essentially my new exhaust put together (with same old tailpipe).

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/84672633_photobucket_43099_.jpg)

Just need a flange adapter for the new cat and then I can install it!
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: shanebo on June 20, 2011, 01:19:43 AM
Most exhaust shops will have a reduction coupling....looks like some good progress being made.....your going about this project very carefully and thoroughly...you'll have a car you can be really proud of.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on June 20, 2011, 12:00:45 PM
The glasspack is by Magnaflow, it was just as cheap as any other muffler, plus the straight design should be easier to work with and they do sound pretty sweet. I think NAPA has the part I need, so I'll probably go there and check it out.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on June 20, 2011, 11:59:51 PM
I replaced both front brakes this afternoon, calipers, pads, and rotors. Still need to clean them some more, but I don't have enough brake cleaner and it got too dark anyway. Also put in the new studs for the front wheels.

The pad you see here was supposed to be the inside pad on the other side. I had to go back and switch them to finish the right brakes :banghead:
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/84672633_photobucket_44166_.jpg)
It was dark by the time I finished the right brakes.
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/84672633_photobucket_44167_.jpg)

Bought an Edelbrock air cleaner and adapter from Advance Auto as well. Hope this will work with all the emissions stuff...
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/84672633_photobucket_44163_.jpg)
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/84672633_photobucket_44164_.jpg)
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: thereverendbill on June 21, 2011, 12:05:24 AM
heck yeah!!! I was just getting ready to message you about the adapter kit I had for my carter that I found out that I no longer need for my MC2150
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on June 21, 2011, 12:10:46 AM
Haha, it makes everything else look new ;D

Not sure though, this adapter is strictly just a size adapter. It doesn't have any holes for the vacuum tubes. There's one hole underneath the air cleaner, but no second one for leading back into the engine (which I assume it needs).

The Edelbrock was only like $8 more than the "Mr. Gasket" one, and looks a heck of a lot nicer.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Whuntmore on June 21, 2011, 12:21:42 AM
It's coming along really well.  Nice work.  Have an egg for all your hard work fixing up, saving an eagle
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on June 21, 2011, 12:35:38 AM
Thanks! Next comes brake lines, exhaust, and fluids so I can drive it around the yard some more :)

Then parking brake, motor mounts, spark plugs/wires, distributor cap/rotor, vacuum hoses, shifter button, door handle, fuses, gauges, and finally welding. Probably some other stuff I can't think of off the top of my head.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on June 23, 2011, 10:13:47 PM
So I think while I'm waiting to do other things, I'm going to attempt taking my valve cover off to clean up and replace the gasket. However, I have to make sure first which engine I actually have. I've been struggling to figure this out, and was told by the PO that it was a crate engine from a '95 Wrangler (which would make it a 4.0 242 I6, originally fuel injected). Don't know if anyone can tell anything from the pictures above, but the only number I found on the engine was on a plate around the #2 and #3 spark plugs I believe. It says "S 95600 80", and I couldn't find anything on the internet for it.

I know I'm gonna have trouble getting at the bolt by the firewall, it's too small of an area to get my socket wrench in, let alone the socket itself.

Another thing, does anybody know if stainless braided vacuum lines are any better, or if they're just for show? They'd look great in place of the normal hoses, but cost way too much for me to use just for looks. Something like these:
http://www.amazon.com/Spectre-19125-Stainless-Steel-Flex-Vacuum/dp/B00062ZQQK

Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: jim on June 23, 2011, 11:45:39 PM
About the back bolt - it has been suggested on here that you can drill a 1/2"hole in that overhanging lip of the firewall and get to the bolt that way.  Afterwards you can plug the hole with a rubber plug.
Another solution is to do what the so called mechanic did when he repleced the motor in my 83 - he used a torch and cut out a section of the firewall.  He had major health problems and hasn't been around since then.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on June 24, 2011, 01:07:09 AM
I'll take the drilling suggestion into consideration. I have yet to try getting to it with a universal joint on my socket wrench.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: shanebo on June 24, 2011, 01:13:57 AM
You got the right idea on this project. Ive been putting off My wagon project cuz I need alot of costly engine and tranny parts...I just got inspired to start tackling the brake system....a bit more affordable at this point in time.....Thanks for the inspiration!! Its the kick in the butt Ive been needing. ;D
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: mudkicker715 on June 24, 2011, 06:17:44 AM
That back bolt only needs a u joint to pop it off. No drilling or cutting required. Its off quick that way.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on June 24, 2011, 10:46:48 AM
that head looks like a 4.0 head to me. not a 4.2 thats for sure. atleast not like in my 83 and 82 sx4's. looks just like my 93 4.0.

Alright, I'll go with the jeep valve cover gasket and hold my breath. Thanks!

shanebo- glad I could inspire, I wouldn't even know where to start with engine/trans problems. I actually found doing the brakes sort of fun (once I actually got the rusty old ones off, which was a pain). Good luck on your project! I've found that selling things on the "list" helps for a little extra cash. Maybe even put up a wanted ad or two.

I'll use the u joint first and save the drilling as an absolute last resort. I wouldn't think you'd need to drill anything, since people work on these all the time.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on June 25, 2011, 09:35:12 PM
Spent the afternoon removing, cleaning, and replacing my valve cover and new cork gasket. I used a u joint to get at the back bolt. It was still a pain, but at least it worked. I did my best to keep all the dirt and gunk from the old gasket out of the valve area, but I had to scrape some of it off. Hopefully there's nothing real bad in there, I cleaned it up pretty well.

This is after I cleaned where the cover sits, couldn't get a before picture because my phone started freaking out.
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/84672633_photobucket_45678_.jpg)

Dirty valve cover with old cork gasket sealed on.
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/84672633_photobucket_45677_.jpg)

Top of dirty valve cover.
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/84672633_photobucket_45718_.jpg)

Valve cover after cleaning, scrubbing with wire brush, and install.
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/84672633_photobucket_45663_.jpg)
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/84672633_photobucket_45666_.jpg)

I'll probably paint it eventually, but I have many more important things to do first.

Also put on some new fuel line hoses with new clamps, and at least one vacuum line. Only about a hundred to go ;)
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Smitch on June 26, 2011, 05:28:09 AM
That looks a lot better!!  ;D
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on June 27, 2011, 06:20:15 PM
Question: My header has a hole on the left side, like the one in this picture below, which I assume is for the preheater hose that goes to the original air cleaner. Will I need to plug this hole for emissions/inspection to use my new air cleaner, and if so, what can I do to plug it? Thanks!

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/Header.jpg)
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: thereverendbill on June 27, 2011, 06:30:11 PM
I wouldn't think so, noting illegal about running an aftermarket air cleaner
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Eagleearl on June 27, 2011, 07:02:04 PM
The preheater is just a piece of sheet metal arround the manifold. There is no need to plug it.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on June 27, 2011, 10:22:36 PM
The reason I would think this needs to be plugged is because there's exhaust coming out of the hole that isn't going through the catalytic converter, so obviously it would look bad to someone inspecting it. I guess I'll wait and see, worst case I have to find some kind of cap...
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on June 27, 2011, 10:56:46 PM
The preheater is just a piece of sheet metal arround the manifold. There is no need to plug it.

Ah nevermind, I understand now. The reason I thought it was exhaust coming out was because it was smoking when I looked at it with the engine running today. Something must've gotten up in there when I pressure washed it yesterday(probably just water, duh) and then burned up to make smoke. I did feel it with my hand and found it odd that the manifold metal was so thin there.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on June 28, 2011, 04:31:29 PM
Installed new spark plugs and rear right parking brake cable today. Not sure how to install the front cable though, because it goes through two or three holes on the car that don't seem to open up for removal/installation. Plus, I'm not exactly sure how to take out the pedal, and that looked like a lot more work than I'm willing to do today.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: philotomy on June 29, 2011, 08:53:05 AM
There are some nice diagrams in the Eaglepedia in the factory parts catalog section that can show you what parts go where,or take pictures with a digital camera and refer to them if needed .I did that with my brake pedal when I replaced my master cylinder.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on June 29, 2011, 11:03:24 PM
Yeah, I have two manuals that I still have to look at. I'm not as worried about the parking brake yet, but I'll get to it soon.

Got most of the brake lines on today. Still have the front right line to change and then have to bleed them. Also put on a new fuel pump, but still have to start it up and see how it works.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: mudkicker715 on June 29, 2011, 11:25:54 PM
Post a pic of the man x member please.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on June 30, 2011, 12:10:46 AM
Post a pic of the man x member please.

The what?
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Smitch on June 30, 2011, 12:22:21 AM

The what?

That would be "manual cross member".
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on June 30, 2011, 01:15:26 AM
That's what I thought he meant, but I'm still not exactly positive what/where this is. Is it just the section of the frame underneath the engine? If so, I can get pictures tomorrow since it's jacked up in the front right now.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: maddog on June 30, 2011, 02:42:58 AM
i believe what they are talking about is the cross member that holds the transmission in place.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: mudkicker715 on June 30, 2011, 06:42:30 AM
Yes manual crossmember. Yes to what holds the transmission up. Just asking. For a reason or 2 I thought it was easy for you.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on June 30, 2011, 03:37:54 PM
Here are some pictures from the front, I'll get some from behind later. Hoping to finish my brakes today.

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-06-30_14-26-59_557.jpg)
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-06-30_14-27-13_871.jpg)
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-06-30_14-27-21_465.jpg)
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on June 30, 2011, 11:13:06 PM
Didn't get the pictures from behind yet. Had another set back with the brake lines because I went to pump the brakes and found the front left line leaking fluid. Of course it had to happen just after taking a trip to Advance Auto for the right line. That makes 4 trips in 2 days, and now I have to take another to get the new ones.

I really didn't want to have to install new lines here because these ones are in the hardest to get to spot. The left line comes from the brake hose (in the wheel hub) to a 3-way adapter, one side going to the master cylinder and the other going across the firewall to the combination valve (which sends fluid to both the front right and back lines). The problem is they're underneath the brake booster and a whole bunch of electrical connections and hoses. I can't get any of the fittings off of the 3-way adapter with my flarenut wrench, especially without bending the good line that I don't want to replace. I couldn't get a pair of locking pliers down there to clamp them, so that won't work, and I tried using some liquid wrench. I was going to try using a torch to loosen it, but I'm worried about burning anything around there and causing way more problems. I'll figure something out tomorrow...

I'll also need a new section of metal fuel line that goes from the fuel pump to the filter because the fitting was rusted and apparently the line twisted when I had to take it off. I don't know if this is really a big problem, but it should probably be done anyway. Does anyone know if this can be replaced with a rubber line and fitting, or does it have to be metal?
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on July 01, 2011, 10:26:51 PM
Ugh, ANOTHER setback. I got all the brake lines attached and tightened up, then tried bleeding the brakes. Something seemed wrong because I could hear air around the lines at the master cylinder, even though all the lines were tightened up. Went through about a bottle and a half of fluid until I found out there was air leaking from the power brake booster. Have to check it more thoroughly, but I think it may be rusted through. There goes another hundred something dollars...
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: philotomy on July 02, 2011, 10:38:40 AM
I did mine a while ago.you'll have to undo the brake pedal too,just take a pic before you disassemble or draw a diagram.it can be frustrating but just take your time .there's plenty of help here
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on July 03, 2011, 10:03:33 PM
Well I got a little more wiggle room, sold a laptop online for a couple hundred dollars. I requested a quote online from a salvage place for the booster, but they have yet to respond (probably due to the holiday weekend). They were around $40 at the cheapest on the salvage search website. Although, I may even just get it new and return the old one for the core charge. It's about $80 after all that, and then at least I'd probably never have to worry about it again. Will see in a couple days.

By the way, to all members- never watch season 7 episode 2 of Mythbusters. It was very sad  :'(...
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: maddog on July 04, 2011, 01:45:23 AM
yeah we know about the snowplow split the did with two good eagles.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on July 04, 2011, 02:41:42 AM
yeah we know about the snowplow split the did with two good eagles.

That was very unfortunate  :-\
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: maddog on July 04, 2011, 11:17:16 AM
yes it was and sadly other than that episode and a few others they are fun to watch until they destroy classic cars or rare items. i just want to know one thing when they did the snowplow episode why didn't they use a fullsize pickup with a solid front axle or a awd subaru insted of an eagle?
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on July 04, 2011, 02:33:58 PM
Beats me... They could've even used something like a 90's Ford Taurus, I can't stand those cars and see way too many of them.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: thereverendbill on July 04, 2011, 03:54:27 PM
sadly, what's done is done.  We all have to take a deep breath and think "we can't save them all"
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on July 04, 2011, 05:12:42 PM
sadly, what's done is done.  We all have to take a deep breath and think "we can't save them all"

Well at least I can save mine! (or try to). Put on a new license plate bracket from the "bay". Looks a lot better than the old rusty one that was falling apart. Don't worry, the rear windshield is just reflecting the tent it's under.

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/84672633_photobucket_48087_.jpg)
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Whuntmore on July 04, 2011, 07:59:31 PM
omg, does that ever look like a crack,  LOLOL, that's funny that you mentioned it...
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Smitch on July 04, 2011, 08:18:21 PM
the rear windshield is just reflecting the tent it's under.

Boy, that tent sure has a bad crack in it!  ;D
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: maddog on July 04, 2011, 10:17:03 PM
i saw the pic before i read the bit above it and was trying to figure out how you broke the back window like that. :rotfl:
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on July 05, 2011, 12:21:59 AM
Haha, I saw it as soon as I took the picture and knew that's exactly what people would think. The windshield is just fine, no cracks whatsoever.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on July 05, 2011, 01:19:20 AM
I tried taking pictures from behind the crossmember earlier today, but they didn't turn out so great.

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-07-04_17-29-01_673.jpg)
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-07-04_17-29-23_720.jpg)
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-07-04_17-28-44_923.jpg)
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-07-04_17-28-02_109.jpg)
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: philotomy on July 06, 2011, 09:22:34 AM
I usually take one with a flash and 1 without ,usually end up using the flash picture(clearer) and shows all the bits hidden in the shadows.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Prafeston on July 06, 2011, 03:27:32 PM
Wow man...I disappeared for awhile and came back to you really making some progress. Keep up the good work. I sent you an egg! :)
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on July 06, 2011, 03:31:11 PM
I usually take one with a flash and 1 without ,usually end up using the flash picture(clearer) and shows all the bits hidden in the shadows.

Oh, duh, that's what I was missing! My phone always shuts it off for no reason and won't let me change it. I was kind of in a hurry too I believe. And thanks Prafeston ;D
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on July 06, 2011, 07:48:37 PM
My differential cover gasket replacement and paint job:

Before
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-06-11_00-49-48_691.jpg)
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-07-05_15-07-53_790.jpg)

After
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-07-06_15-25-20_214.jpg)

Not the best paint job, but it should work. I used a rubber gasket and sealed it up with RTV.

Also painted my grille. It's still cracked, but looks better.
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-07-06_18-50-16_2.jpg)

If you'd like to view my Photobucket album, here is the link:
http://s1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: philotomy on July 06, 2011, 09:39:47 PM
Looks good.I painted my bolts gold but the paint eventually wore off.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on July 06, 2011, 09:49:32 PM
I haven't really thought about the lights yet, but my brother just got me some new ones so I'll be looking into that soon. Thanks for noticing.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Draekon on July 06, 2011, 11:20:16 PM
You might want to get the oil pan cleaned up before it rusts through giving you a major oil leak  :o
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on July 07, 2011, 02:26:56 AM
Yeah I know it looks bad, but it's not nearly at that point yet. I have plenty of rust removal to do underneath the car, and seeing as I'll be changing the oil soon, I'll probably get that sanded down and sprayed with something pronto. I wish I could just drop the oil pan, but I don't have the means to pull the engine, or remove all the things to get to it without pulling the engine.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: thereverendbill on July 07, 2011, 05:50:50 PM
You might want to get the oil pan cleaned up before it rusts through giving you a major oil leak  :o
and from my experence JB weld is only a band aid once it starts leaking
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on July 07, 2011, 11:33:44 PM
Discovered some new goodies when removing the front left bumper endcap today ::)

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-07-07_21-04-53_883.jpg)
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Draekon on July 07, 2011, 11:47:17 PM
 :o You're finding all kinds of surprises!  Its good to see you pursuing this project and not just dumping it due to the rust  :hello2:  I'll be eager to see how the repairs go.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on July 08, 2011, 12:56:35 AM
Well, I guess it's easier not to dump it since I'm not actually doing the welding myself :P But I don't mind doing the rust removal, I kind of equate it to washing a car. It's rewarding to see it all smooth and clean when finished. I'm moving onto that next.

If I knew how to weld and had the equipment, I would certainly do it myself. However, my brother has the equipment and the know-how already and offered to do it as long as I get the areas cleaned up. I've also been talking to thereverendbill and he was very kind to extend his welding ability for the price of gas and some food/beverage when he's here. I may just have to take him up on it ;D

I bought this car knowing it would need work, and I've put way too much money into it to just dump it. I wanted to put myself into this position so I would be forced to stay motivated and gain a lot more automotive knowledge. My excitement to finish this project is just snowballing every day. It's a lot easier to get work done without being tied down with a job at the moment. The only problem is $$$, which I've been making selling things on the "bay" and the "list".
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: philotomy on July 08, 2011, 08:17:56 PM
Be thankful you have a brother who will help with his skills.Then it's one less thing you'll have to think about later.You've made good progress so far.Even a day you can fix something on your car for free is a good day 8)
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on July 08, 2011, 10:16:48 PM
This evening's work with the grinder. Was away most of the day and it poured here, so I didn't get much done.

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-07-08_21-44-10_50.jpg)

Oh yeah, I also put in the new headlights. Though rusty, the adjuster screws still seemed to work fine. I just don't know exactly how to adjust them, and can't start the car at the moment because the battery died again. Will probably be getting a new one soon. Any suggestions? I was looking at a $50 Plus Start from Sears, reviews seem decent.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on July 11, 2011, 12:55:34 AM
I didn't realize I never posted pictures of the interior. Here are a few:

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-07-10_14-59-51_870.jpg)
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-07-10_15-00-05_798.jpg)
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-07-10_15-00-31_94.jpg)
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-07-10_15-01-27_407.jpg)
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-07-10_15-02-00_213.jpg)
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on July 12, 2011, 01:28:24 AM
Painted my trans oil pan and replaced it along with a new gasket, filter, and fluid yesterday and today. The old fluid was pretty gunked up and nasty, it almost looked like a thick white paint in the pan.

I decided to practice with clear coat since the pan's not in a visible spot anyway. It didn't turn out so great, especially being outside where all kinds of moths could get in it, and the clear is matte so it just gave it a white haze.

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-07-10_19-48-31_812.jpg)
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-07-11_16-58-23_492.jpg)
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: philotomy on July 12, 2011, 06:44:42 AM
nice paint job.mine was painted orange with black bolts,chipped now but I'll prob repaint the whole thing eventually,I like your seats they look comfortable unlike mine.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on July 12, 2011, 01:02:16 PM
Thanks. Yeah, the seats are surprisingly comfortable. There are a couple small tears in the driver seat you can see on the far side in the pictures. I've also had trouble adjusting them, they won't sit even because they both lock in different places. The tracks underneath are very rusted, so I'm not sure what I'll have to do about that.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: thereverendbill on July 12, 2011, 05:22:49 PM
Thanks. Yeah, the seats are surprisingly comfortable. There are a couple small tears in the driver seat you can see on the far side in the pictures. I've also had trouble adjusting them, they won't sit even because they both lock in different places. The tracks underneath are very rusted, so I'm not sure what I'll have to do about that.
you could take the seats out, remove the tracks and media blast them 
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on July 12, 2011, 06:30:02 PM
you could take the seats out, remove the tracks and media blast them 

That's a good idea. Not that I have the means to do that right now, but I'll probably end up doing it at some point. I may even have to take the seats out to do rust repair anyway.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Prafeston on July 12, 2011, 07:48:29 PM
That interior is looking pretty sharp man.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on July 12, 2011, 09:07:33 PM
That interior is looking pretty sharp man.

Actually, the interior is the only thing that's gotten worse since I bought the car :P I tore up the passenger carpet to grind away the rusty floor, and the driver door panel was taken off to repair the outside handle. I also still need a new shifter because the button on mine is broken, and the seat tracks are very rusty.

I bought a new battery today, as well as the new steel fuel line coming from the fuel pump, and installed both. The new battery is much larger than the old one, which I could tell before was clearly the wrong battery. It feels much better knowing I have the correct battery. I even know now that my trunk popper is working for sure!

The old battery is on the right, it didn't even fit in the battery tray.
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-07-12_16-07-04_902.jpg)

Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on July 13, 2011, 03:15:57 AM
I saw the Optimas online, but they're about 3 or more times as much as the one I bought. I could barely afford to buy this one, which I chose over the PlusStart from Sears. It should be fine for daily driving, I'm not doing any serious offroading anytime soon. It was definitely cranking better than before, and started right up. Has a 2 year full replacement warranty, so I'm not worried.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: shaggimo on July 13, 2011, 08:52:43 AM
eh you'll be fine, I put one in the eagle a couple years ago (wallyworld battery), never a glitch. Honestly *most* batteries all come from the same producer anyways, I found that out from my old boss. He worked next to a battery wholesaler, you could walk in, ask for your series, and then they'd ask what brand do you want? Say, mopar, they'd grab a blank battery, grab a mopar sticker, punch the date and slap the sticker on, lol. I'm not as picky about my batteries anymore  ;).
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: thereverendbill on July 13, 2011, 07:48:06 PM
I norminally just swap batteries with cars that come to my work that are totaled.  Right now I have a cobalt factory battery in my property jeep cause the old one got a hole in it somehow ;D
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: maximus7001 on July 13, 2011, 08:15:03 PM
Painted my trans oil pan and replaced it along with a new gasket, filter, and fluid yesterday and today. The old fluid was pretty gunked up and nasty, it almost looked like a thick white paint in the pan.

I decided to practice with clear coat since the pan's not in a visible spot anyway. It didn't turn out so great, especially being outside where all kinds of moths could get in it, and the clear is matte so it just gave it a white haze.

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-07-10_19-48-31_812.jpg)
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-07-11_16-58-23_492.jpg)

From the look of what was in the trans pan I would suspect that the cooler in the rad has a leak.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on July 13, 2011, 09:42:25 PM
From the look of what was in the trans pan I would suspect that the cooler in the rad has a leak.

Is this fixable, or does it require a replacement?
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: maddog on July 14, 2011, 02:17:19 AM
just to be on the safe side i would replace it.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on July 14, 2011, 03:39:12 AM
just to be on the safe side i would replace it.

Wait, do you mean the cooler or the entire radiator? I know the hard trans lines going to the radiator are pretty rusty, which may be another culprit, but I sure hope it's not the radiator. That's way out of my price range :-[
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: maddog on July 14, 2011, 07:37:52 PM
sadly i mean the whole thing and while your at it i would replace the cooler lines as well.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on July 15, 2011, 12:26:00 AM
I was planning on replacing the lines soon anyway. I drained the coolant today and I'm afraid you may be right. It was a dark green color and it looked as though there may be some kind of oil in it (ATF in this case). I guess I'll search the junkyards for one, and hopefully I can get an ok deal. Or does anybody know where to find a new one for around $100 or less?

I was going to do a total flush, clean, fill, and seal to day, but the rtv on my thermostat housing wouldn't cure fast enough (also replaced thermo, old one seemed seized or something). Probably a good thing, because after reading online about the Liquid Aluminum Stop Leak I bought, I no longer think it would be a good idea to use. I bet some of you guys have good things to say about it, too ;) Looks like just a temp fix and could possibly cause engine problems, clogs in the water pump, and other fun stuff.

Old coolant, yuck  :-X One on the right I diluted with water through the radiator.
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-07-14_19-15-17_261.jpg)

My line up, minus the stop leak now.
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-07-14_18-36-17_400.jpg)

Also made a little money this morning and stopped at Harbor Freight Tools to pick up some things. Got a new angle grinder for cheap + a bunch of cutting, grinding, sanding discs and a couple wire wheels. Maybe I'll try to get the rest of the rust grinded away tomorrow instead of worrying about the cooling system or brakes, which I can't do anything to now anyway since I need parts :(.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Whuntmore on July 15, 2011, 02:09:06 AM
Looks like it's moving right along.  Keep up the great work, and keep on posting.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on July 15, 2011, 08:06:37 PM
 :help: Well, it seems I've come to the point where I just don't know what to do. The trans lines look much more difficult to remove than I thought, and I don't know how or if I can even get a wrench in there to remove them from the trans. They will almost definitely need replacing, especially if I put in another radiator, because the fittings are rusted fast to the lines at the bottom of the radiator and one line looks leaky at the other end.

I know removing the transmission would be the best way to do it, but I just can't do that with the tools I have and wouldn't know how to do it if I had them. Even if I was going to do that, my best bet would be to put in a whole different trans. I guess I've really got a predicament here :-\

If I could get the lines off the radiator without damaging them further, do you think I could just get an external trans cooler and mount it in front of the radiator where the condenser is (since I don't have a/c anyway) then plug the connections on the radiator?


Also, my thermostat housing cracked when reinstalling it, that's why it wouldn't seal. I didn't realize they were so easy to break. I'll have to get a new one then to replace it.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: jim on July 15, 2011, 08:09:26 PM
You can definitely mount an external trans cooler, whether or not you have ac.  I have one on the 83 with ac.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on July 15, 2011, 08:23:31 PM
Ok, I might just do that. It's a lot cheaper than replacing the radiator right now. I would take out my condenser because it does nothing right now and put it there since it's the best, coolest place for it. Thanks Jim.

Still, does anyone have any tips for the cooler lines?
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on July 16, 2011, 12:39:03 AM
Ok, I believe I'm just going to buy an external transmission cooler which should mostly solve my problem and won't cost nearly as much as a radiator. I think I'm going to clamp the cooler hoses to the old rusty lines to use temporarily and worry about them later. They should be fine for a little while.

I did, however, remove the cooler line fittings from the radiator. This was the result:

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-07-15_23-00-31_721.jpg)

Even after drenching them with liquid wrench, waiting at least an hour, and using some more liquid wrench, both of the elbows busted off while still screwed in the radiator and tore off the ends of the lines. I didn't bother trying to take the other threads out, I'm going to flush the trans fluid out of the old cooler and use epoxy to seal up the holes so no coolant leaks out.

I also removed the a/c condenser to prep for installing a cooler.

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-07-15_23-07-25_405.jpg)
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: shanebo on July 16, 2011, 12:51:27 AM
Just another one of those agrivating set backs..Its so frustrating when your moving right along and somthing like this happens...Dont feel bad though I busted mine off too...A new radiator is a always good investment anyway on cars this old.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on July 16, 2011, 02:47:24 AM
Thanks for the inspiration guys. Looks like a radiator from Advance Auto would be about $145 after -$50 coupon code online. It has a brass core. I don't know if I'll go with this yet, but it's good to know they have big discounts like this. I really would like an external cooler anyway, I'm looking at a B&M 70268 from there. I also realized they sell the thermostat housing(water outlet) too, so hopefully I'll go get one at the store tomorrow.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on July 16, 2011, 11:02:29 PM
Got a trans cooler and installed it today ;D It's an Imperial Maxi XL from Advance.

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-07-16_18-37-15_186.jpg)

Still have to flush the old cooler and epoxy the holes, didn't get a chance to do anything else. Also bought a new thermostat housing, and a universal drain plug to put on the trans pan so I don't have to drop it every time I change the fluid. I'll get these installed soon so hopefully I can totally finish the cooling system and trans stuff.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: 83Eagle! on July 17, 2011, 01:52:03 AM
I have have not been on the nest much recently.  I missed a lot on this build.  I am impressed with the progress you have made.  Keep up the good work.  wish I could make progress like that on mine.  Right now I only know how to do 2 out of the 5 things my poor Eagle needs.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on July 18, 2011, 03:54:50 AM
Got most of the driver floor pan cut out.

Part way through when I remembered to take a picture:
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-07-17_21-35-58_32.jpg)

How it looks now:
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-07-17_21-52-08_752.jpg)

Cut out and sanded the rusty rocker panels (inner and outer) and sanded down a few rust spots on the driver side door:
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-07-17_22-21-56_127.jpg)
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-07-17_22-22-03_47.jpg)

Sanded down a lot of the frame on this section:
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-07-17_22-21-36_49.jpg)
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-07-17_22-21-29_151.jpg)
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-07-17_22-20-54_247.jpg)

I tried putting on the t-stat housing as well, but it still leaked when I filled the radiator with water. Don't think it cracked, but it was probably because I used RTV. I'll test again tomorrow and remove the RTV if it hasn't sealed yet.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on July 18, 2011, 02:14:35 PM
Hmm, I think I might check that out today, thanks. Couldn't hurt.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on July 19, 2011, 10:34:03 PM
Just finished my brakes!!! (for the most part). Installed the new loaded brake booster today because it finally arrived, and also ended up putting on that one last brake line that I was hoping not to have to change. Oh well, at least they're all done now!

Old booster
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-07-19_21-59-28_604.jpg)

New booster
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-07-19_21-56-29_971.jpg)

Installed that last high beam as well, so the headlights are all good.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: philotomy on July 19, 2011, 10:37:33 PM
Isn't that soo satisfying to have a new one installed?no worries
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on July 19, 2011, 10:48:34 PM
I know, I can't wait to bleed the brakes and get them tightened up and working! Too dark to start anything right now though, will hopefully do that tomorrow. My front parking brake cable is on the way, so that will be finished soon too. I already removed the old one and it won't be a problem like I thought. Call me butter, 'cause I'm on a roll!!! ;D
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on July 20, 2011, 03:05:25 AM
 :rotfl: LOL, I'm good with cheesy jokes I guess haha.

I'm really excited to have the brakes done (as you can tell, since I've said it a billion times). I'd hate to have to do that booster a second time, I was scraping up my elbow on the cut up floorboard in 90-something degree weather trying to lean under there to remove the bolts. Let's just say I was out of breath by the time I was done straining to get them off.

EVERYTHING is new for the brakes now, except for the combination valve and actually one very small steel line coming off of that (which I may replace just for kicks). These should last for a very long time!

I get to check all that alignment junk out when I can finally test drive the car. None of it looks pretty right now, I just hope it can hold up for inspection until I have a chance to make more money. As far as I know, it's all stable. None of the wheels have any play either.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on July 25, 2011, 03:18:46 AM
So finally after a couple days of vacation from the outrageous heat, I got to do a little bit of work on my Eagle. Well actually, all I did was seal up those holes on the radiator (for the old trans cooler) with some marine grade epoxy paste after flushing it. Other than that, I only got to inspect my fuel lines a little more.

I am going to replace the return fuel lines at least, and probably the sending lines as well. The return lines are way worse, and have been replaced before, with what I think is the wrong size.

The return lines on there are 3/16", but I believe they're supposed to be 1/4". This is the only thing I've found about them: http://forums.amceaglenest.com/index.php?topic=35817.0
Any info on this would be great. Also, does anybody know what size the sending lines are?

Finally, I found this old rusty piece (bottom of picture)by the gas tank which connects between the return lines. Is this just an in-line fuel filter of some sort?
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-07-25_00-05-21_762.jpg)
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on July 25, 2011, 03:42:25 AM
AHHHH, that makes a lot of sense now!!! I saw there was a line coming from the charcoal canister, so that must be the one. I don't think I'll even bother replacing those lines since they probably won't look for that during inspection and it can't really hurt it being rusty. Thanks!

I would really like to try doing these lines tomorrow, and also finish up the cooling system. Anyone know the size of the return fuel lines or the fuel sending lines?
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: shaggimo on July 25, 2011, 09:45:37 AM
5/16 feed
1/4 return
3/16 evap

gettin there!! :occasion14:
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on July 25, 2011, 11:03:15 AM
5/16 feed
1/4 return
3/16 evap

gettin there!! :occasion14:

Perfect!
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on July 25, 2011, 10:31:43 PM
Installed a new 5/16" feed line today which is secured along with the brake line by nice new clamps, but I only got to unbolt the old return line when after an hour into it raining and getting dark I decided to quit for the day. I actually plan on replacing the evap line anyway since I have an extra 25 ft coil of 3/16" steel line that won't be used otherwise.

I also attempted to do the cooling system today. The thermostat housing still leaked from the gasket I made before, so I removed it and made a new gasket. However, upon reinstalling it, the new one ALSO cracked. Boy this is a pain, I'll have to take it back to Advance and get another. I hope I can get the next one to work quickly, I want that part DONE.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on July 26, 2011, 11:24:11 PM
Return line is (pretty much) done, probably the hardest part was getting the old junk off. Now to do the evap line and finish it all up.

The new thermostat housing is on snug now and I'm letting it cure overnight just to be sure. Once that's finally sealed, I can flush, clean, and fill the radiator. Then I'll do the trans fluid again and Seafoam/change the oil.

To do list for inspection:

-(More) Rust removal and welding

-Coolant change
-Trans fluid change and universal drain plug installation
-Seafoam the engine
-Change the oil/filter
-Bleed brakes

-Fix or replace shifter
-Replace speedo cable
-Install exhaust (Cat to tailpipe)

-Reinstall trim and bumper(s)
-Fix and install driver door handle
-Replace left tail light assembly
-Replace windshield wipers
-Replace tires and get alignment

Everything but the welding will be simple for me to do, but I'm really cutting it down to the wire here since school starts in about a month. I'm also volunteering at the Philadelphia Folk Festival, so that's about a week less to work on it. A friend of mine from high school just agreed to help with the welding, which is great because he's a sheet metal worker and lives right down the road from me. Time to get my butt in gear!

Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Prafeston on July 26, 2011, 11:45:38 PM
Good luck making your deadline. Hope you don't run into any issues along the way.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on July 26, 2011, 11:48:29 PM
Hope you don't run into any issues along the way.

You and me both. Thanks, I'll need it!
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on July 29, 2011, 12:56:09 AM
The flange is welded to my catalytic converter!

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-07-28_19-10-33_430.jpg)

I'm gonna try installing the exhaust tomorrow since it's all ready to go on.

I also totally finished the fuel lines and evap line. But whaddya know, the "triple gasket seal" that I put on the water outlet didn't hold in the water, despite letting the "no wait" gasket maker cure overnight. I'm gonna try putting on a really thick coat of the red rtv I have when I do it next. Third time's the charm.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on July 30, 2011, 01:02:17 AM
Boy, I got a lot done today (at least it feels like I did)! My exhaust is installed, aside from the hanger(s), and it sounds good. I popped the cover off the shifter too, I pretty much busted it off the screws that I tried drilling out, but it already had a big crack in it. I still don't know how I'm supposed to take the shifter handle off though.

I also put the new drain plug on my trans pan (lower left corner):

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-07-29_19-02-24_367.jpg)

It's not green, that's just the flash reflection. My previous paint job is kind of messed up though, but I didn't bother doing it again. The pan is now reinstalled and holding fluid, I'm gonna drain it once or twice to flush out some of the old, coolant-contaminated fluid probably tomorrow.

When I ran the car, I don't know that the water outlet was leaking anymore. Maybe it actually sealed up then, but the tank was still full afterward.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: philotomy on July 30, 2011, 07:23:47 AM
My shifter handle had a allen head set screw holding it in,some cars you have to shift to 1st gear then pull it off.My shifter screws(the 4 phillips screws that hold it down) seem seized and I will prob have to drill mine out as well
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on July 30, 2011, 04:56:48 PM
I tried your suggestion and shifting to 1st(automatic) seemed to help a little. I just finished taking the whole thing apart and it needs a new cable since the old one snapped. I'm just glad I could get it apart, it took forever to figure out. The thing was dirty as heck, and I'm going to repaint the handle part before reinstalling it.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: philotomy on July 30, 2011, 06:54:19 PM
A cable huh? Usually we had steel rod linkage from the shifters to the trans in the Eagles unless someone had put one (cable)in afterwards,like an aftermarket B&M model.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: maddog on July 30, 2011, 08:16:28 PM
when Survivor's shifter broke it to had a cable but there was no screw holding it together so i had to get one from a local yard.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on July 30, 2011, 08:49:24 PM
No, it's just the cable that the button (in the handle) pulls up on to lift the tab, allowing you to move the shifter. I just bought one from home depot for $0.26 that I'm going to try rigging.

This is the newly painted shifter rod, and the L piece is what the cable attaches to inside of the rod. The cable lifts the L so it can move along the slots. The old cable must've broken from wear, and that's the new cable I got to fix it. I'll have to figure out how to attach the cable to the L.

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-07-30_20-36-03_744.jpg)

I adjusted the carb slightly today so it wouldn't stall anymore. It seems to be idling okay for now, and I still didn't see the water outlet leaking.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on July 30, 2011, 09:54:35 PM
I just got done draining and filling the radiator again and nothing leaked at all this time, so I will do a flush and fill tomorrow and possibly get to change the oil. Yay, it's all coming together now ;D!
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Alcology on July 31, 2011, 02:23:10 PM
Nice work!  You are motivated.  I've got a bunch of busted screws on my shifter as well.  My plan is to soak them in penetrant and then when I get my trans out, use a piece of wood to pull the screws through. 
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on August 01, 2011, 09:56:05 PM
Thanks! I've got a lot of money into this and about a month left to get it on the road, I have to be motivated :P

Just before I added the coolant yesterday, as I was idling the engine to circulate the cleaner, about 6 minutes in my water outlet once again sprung a leak. I removed it and applied a really thick layer of red rtv and have let it cure on the engine since. I figured I'd use this down time to change the belts.

I got the first belt off with no problem. However, I couldn't figure out how to loosen the other one, on the water pump and power steering. Can anyone tell me how to do this or direct me to some pictures?
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on August 02, 2011, 11:28:34 PM
Water outlet seal is holding and cooling system is now done! I tried bleeding the brakes, but didn't get to finish. I should be able to get at least one new belt tomorrow to replace that, and if I'm able to finish the brakes, maybe I'll try driving it and then change the oil.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on August 02, 2011, 11:35:07 PM
Oh right, I also have to tend to the trans pan again. Are some of the bolts shorter than others? A couple wouldn't tighten when I replaced it the other day, and now it's leaking again... I might just have to take it off and use a thin layer of black rtv instead of the reusable gasket since it was leaking around the edges and not the bolt holes.

vangremlin(Dave) shipped my new tail lights today, so I should have them to install in a week! My friend is also coming on Thursday to check out what welding needs to be done, I hope to finish that as quickly as possible.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: mudkicker715 on August 03, 2011, 07:40:19 AM
Reuseable gasket? I am confused.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: philotomy on August 03, 2011, 06:43:09 PM
all the pan bolts are the same size,make sure the mating surfaces are CLEAN and torque,criss cross pattern to 11 ft lbs.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on August 04, 2011, 05:45:19 AM
Reuseable gasket? I am confused.

It's just the rubber gasket that came with the trans filter, nothing special. I was under the impression it could be used alone, that's what I've read elsewhere. I did tighten in a criss cross pattern and torqued the bolts to specification, it's just that one or two keep spinning and won't tighten. Possibly the threads, which would suck, but it is only leaking around the edges and not the bolts, so it should be okay with some black rtv. It did the same thing before installing the drain plug, too.

Back after a day banned from the site, I spent about another 3 hours yesterday trying to bleed the brakes. Three bottles of fluid later, I can finally hear the shoes tightening in the back but still have practically no brakes. However, I ran the car for a few minutes, circulating the new coolant as well as some Seafoam in the crankcase, all while revving my engine to some George Thorogood on the radio  8)

Today will be a long day, but I should hopefully get a lot done and be able to tie up some loose ends. My friend is coming to inspect the car for future weld work tonight, so onto the good stuff  ;)
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: 68AMXGOPAC on August 04, 2011, 07:55:18 AM
I absalutly had to send you an egg. I must have some in my eye because I certainly can not spell correctly.
You are getting a ton of work done !! Keep going strong, and hope there aren't anymore setbacks.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: mudkicker715 on August 04, 2011, 08:06:21 AM
gaskets are cheap labor isn't.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on August 04, 2011, 09:46:32 PM
Well, once again my water outlet seal did not hold. I tried searching for an answer, but everyone says something different about what to use. Some say red rtv (which didn't work for me despite a day of curing), others say black rtv, and some say to use the paper gasket and ONLY the paper gasket. I think I will try the black first since I just got some for the trans pan, and if that doesn't work I'll go get a new paper gasket.

I changed the fan belt, replaced the wiper blades with some new cheapos, dropped the trans pan so I can put on some black rtv, and capped off a couple lines on the carb. I also attempted to gravity bleed the brakes again, and spent probably an hour and a half on one side using another quart of fluid. It just continued to bubble for no reason, and I've checked all of the connections for leaks. It shouldn't do this even if there is a slight leak though, because I'm just gravity bleeding it ???. Very confusing and time consuming.

My friend couldn't come over tonight after all, hopefully he will soon.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Gil-SX4 on August 05, 2011, 02:21:58 AM
Its the roll over safety valve
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-07-25_00-05-21_762.jpg)

On the water outlet seal, if youmean the thermostat housing, best solution is to get a new housing and use a regular gasket don't put any thing on it.
If you are referring to a freeze plug seal, then you will need to make sure the block surface where the plug goes in is not pitted to much
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Gil-SX4 on August 05, 2011, 03:27:36 PM
What I do when this happens is just put a bit of crazy glue on the thermostat to keep it from falling. But dose sticky side gaskets are a great help.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on August 05, 2011, 03:59:17 PM
Thank You both! I was reading about using a thin brush-on sealant/glue with the regular gasket, I think I'll wait and do that now. My t-stat was seated correctly, there was only one time that it wouldn't stay right and it didn't cause any trouble.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on August 05, 2011, 09:31:22 PM
I should be able to drive the car now, fingers crossed!

Here is the homemade gasket which I punched out of construction paper and sealed on both sides with a Scotch "Permanent Glue Stick". It held up when I filled the radiator and started the car a few minutes ago, so hopefully it keeps.

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-08-05_17-23-23_655.jpg)

I sealed up the trans pan with black rtv, filled up the trans fluid, changed the oil and filter, and tried to finish bleeding the brakes. They're at least firm with the car off, but when it's running they're still pretty loose feeling. Not sure what to do about this now.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on August 05, 2011, 10:33:56 PM
I replaced the whole master cylinder and brake booster a couple weeks ago. Didn't bench bleed it, but I've read about people not having problems without bench bleeding. Even still, all I did was a gravity bleed and the bubbles were seemingly never ending, so it shouldn't have affected that.

I have replaced practically everything in the brake system at this point...
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: 68AMXGOPAC on August 05, 2011, 10:41:33 PM
You can do a brake bleed by yourself, just get one of those cheap chck valve ones.one end goes on your bleeder, the other in a container of brake fluid,you can open the bleeder, then get in and pump them up.I have found if you have power brakes, to do it with the car running.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on August 05, 2011, 10:55:07 PM
Yeah, I guess I could look for some of those. But even pressure bleeding, I had my mom in the car pumping the pedal the other night and was doing that for probably an hour on one side with no luck. I have been gravity bleeding them (just letting it run out of a tube attached to the bleeder into a container, while continually keeping the fluid level up like I should) because it is supposed to work the same. I just have no idea what could be putting so much air in the system with it all tightened up and not pumping the pedal. I'm pretty sure it shouldn't take several hours to bleed one side, let alone the whole thing.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on August 06, 2011, 10:14:57 PM
So it's kinda off topic, but I got some amazing deals on big expensive tools at auction today and had to share.

Just to name a few:

25Gal Craftsman air compressor with 3.5hp motor- $55
Large 2 ton Craftsman speed jack- $15
Box of pneumatic tools, including 2 impact wrenches, 2 drills, and one ratchet, + a Craftsman electric impact wrench- $27
Craftsman portable sprayer- $3
4 very large old steel jack stands- $10
Spyder paintball gun in hard case(to sell and make profit)- $22

+ a 1968 Wheel Horse "Project" Lawn Mower in great shape w/snowblower(no mower deck)- $425

I bought the tractor for my stepdad, thinking it was in excellent condition, but it needs a battery and spark plugs at least, plus the brakes won't seem to disengage. Tires are like new though and it looks awesome. Still a great deal I think, I'm probably gonna try fixing and selling it. But the compressor is like $400 or more new :o
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Gil-SX4 on August 07, 2011, 01:10:30 AM
Yup, back when IowaEagle and his groupies where young they used to used something call Gasket Shellac.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on August 07, 2011, 01:28:15 AM
Yup, back when IowaEagle and his groupies where young they used to used something call Gasket Shellac.

I guess they didn't even make Eagles back then, huh? ;)

Just kidding, but I was actually looking at stuff like that. The glue stick was the cheaper, free option though, since my mom had like 50 of them laying around.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: 68AMXGOPAC on August 07, 2011, 09:37:53 AM
Hmmm, I would think the glue stick wouldn't work , and be permeable to anti freeze. Did it work out ok ?? Curious.

I still have and use "Indian head" shellac for certain applications. My dad allways had it, and just recently I found it for sale in a small parts store.Oddly I now work on a private collection of Indians, and the owner swears buy it. I never knew there was a connection between the two.

Your makeing great progress man , wish I had an answer for the brake situation.It must be drawing air back in somehow,bummer.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on August 07, 2011, 10:39:27 PM
I would love an old Indian motorcycle!

The glue was just used to hold the gasket to the housing while installing it, nothing else really. It held when I started the car the other night, but I haven't really run the car very long to test it. The one belt is squealing like crazy, so I'd like to replace that first.

I'm gonna try bleeding the brakes again tomorrow (if it doesn't rain hard) and maybe get it done this time. I can even have all four tires off at once now and do it faster since I have a speed jack and four huge stands ;D

I don't foresee getting the car inspected before going back to school, but possibly if I can come home for a weekend or two. It will need a lower spring seat replacement in the front because I noticed one is rusted through, which I'll get pictures of soon. Member Teamamc offered to sell and send me a lot of those components from some of his parts cars, but I have yet to hear back from him. When I take all those things off, I'm going to get them all nice and painted before replacing, so I don't have to do it again.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on August 08, 2011, 10:45:15 PM
Here is the spring seat that's rusted through. It's all white and black looking because I sprayed it with Purple Power De-Ruster once or twice.

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-08-08_19-28-14_458.jpg)

Finally got that other belt off today, I'll replace it tomorrow. Tried bleeding the brakes again and they were still doing the same thing...
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on August 09, 2011, 08:29:59 PM
68AMXGOPAC, I took your advice and bought those speed bleeders for the front of the car. They were surprisingly expensive for two little screws, but they got the job done. Now I just need to find or order a pair of 10mm ones for the back of the car, my Advance Auto doesn't carry them.

I also got to replace that last belt, so they're done.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on August 10, 2011, 12:00:02 AM
Some priming to hold over the rusted door panel until it can be painted for real.

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-08-09_22-24-48_837.jpg)
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: shaggimo on August 10, 2011, 09:02:28 AM
Just a tip, keep in mind primer absorbs anything that gets on it, whether it be grease, or moisture. You may want to rattle bomb a top coat on that if you plan on it being primer for an extended period of time. If not, it can cause many headaches later (I've made that error  :banghead:), lol.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on August 10, 2011, 10:08:16 AM
Ah, did not know that...  Maybe I'll do that tonight.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on August 13, 2011, 10:48:19 PM
I discovered this while removing my tail lights today. Pretty neat, now I know everything this car originally came with.

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-08-13_17-25-30_800.jpg)

Can anyone decipher what color it is? It says "9B0T".

Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on August 14, 2011, 09:34:09 PM
PHEW, just missed...

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-08-14_15-38-56_711.jpg)

On the plus side, my new Wheel Horse Electro 12 Charger came in handy to pull the branches down!

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-08-14_16-26-24_900.jpg)

The trees must really like our Eagles :P
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on August 14, 2011, 11:38:14 PM
Ok, that seems about right. I wasn't sure if it was white or almond, it was repainted i think with a lighter white, and the older paint you can see under some of the trim looks darker. Thanks for the info!
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: maximus7001 on August 15, 2011, 01:45:58 AM
Just a tip, keep in mind primer absorbs anything that gets on it, whether it be grease, or moisture. You may want to rattle bomb a top coat on that if you plan on it being primer for an extended period of time. If not, it can cause many headaches later (I've made that error  :banghead:), lol.

X2 on this. I once destroyed a clean 1977 Ventura by leaving it in primer for too long.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on August 15, 2011, 01:54:30 AM
I sprayed on a topcoat the other day, but ran out of paint and there are some spots where the primer shows through a little. I just got a spray gun from Harbor Freight, so I'm gonna do a lot more painting tomorrow. It's been too rainy to do anything much these last couple days.

I'm also painting my wheels because they're pretty rusty looking (and for practice), and I decided to black out the rear end of the car while the tail lights are off. The bumper has been giving me a lot of trouble though, so I don't know if I'll be able to get it off unfortunately.

Right now, all I can really do is try to get a hold of someone who can do the welding I need. The other things are basically done, or I need parts for.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: maximus7001 on August 15, 2011, 02:25:34 AM
I replaced the whole master cylinder and brake booster a couple weeks ago. Didn't bench bleed it, but I've read about people not having problems without bench bleeding. Even still, all I did was a gravity bleed and the bubbles were seemingly never ending, so it shouldn't have affected that.

I have replaced practically everything in the brake system at this point...

You need to bench bleed it.  Also tap it with a hammer while doing it.

Did you replace the hardlines? Mine were all rotten from the firewall back. I also recently noticed that the front hard lines are nasty as well. Don't overlook the rear hose.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on August 15, 2011, 02:55:13 AM
Yes, I literally replaced everything but the little "combination valve" (what Chilton's calls it) that sends the fluid to different lines in front and back, and I don't see there being a problem with that either. My steel lines were rusty as could be, most of them just snapped right off.

I'm going to get some speed bleeder screws for the back of the car to see if that solves my problem, since it worked well for the front. If not, I suppose I'll have to take it out and bench bleed it :(. The only problem is that my Advance Auto store doesn't carry the size speed bleeders I need for the rear brakes, so I'll have to order them.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: 68AMXGOPAC on August 15, 2011, 07:55:01 AM
What are speed bleeders ?
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: 68AMXGOPAC on August 15, 2011, 08:00:38 AM
PHEW, just missed...

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-08-14_15-38-56_711.jpg)

On the plus side, my new Wheel Horse Electro 12 Charger came in handy to pull the branches down!

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-08-14_16-26-24_900.jpg)

The trees must really like our Eagles :P
As a direct testament to this phenomonon , look up the post "Money Pit" and go to page 26 , you can see my SX/4 under a large tree, but still standing.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: 68AMXGOPAC on August 15, 2011, 08:01:53 AM
actually it is "The SX/4 Money Pit " page #26
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on August 15, 2011, 12:12:05 PM
Haha, that's actually why I said that. I saw the Money Pit post and was thinking how ironic that the same almost happened to my Eagle. I was standing behind the car when it happened and watched the tree fall. Thankfully the rest of the tree didn't fall, because that would surely have wrecked the car.

Speed bleeders are just regular bleeder screws with check valves in them, you turn them a quarter turn and can pump the brakes without having to close them each time.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Jurjen on August 15, 2011, 04:29:17 PM
One of my motorcycles has difficult to bleed brakes, when the system has been completely empty.
I used some advice I found on the internet: use al the line couplings as bleeders and start at the master brake cylinder.
Have some pushing down the brake while you release the line nuts and shut it again before he releases the pedal. Repeat this until the oil comes out. Then continue to the next nut in the line and work your way back to the rear brakes.
Worked like a dream for me.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on August 17, 2011, 10:35:32 PM
Thanks for the suggestion, haven't heard that one yet!

Unfortunately I will not be able to finish the car before I go back to school (clearly). I am volunteering at the Philadelphia Folk Fest all week in the rain, and then I leave for school next Thursday. I'm still trying to organize for the welding to be done before then, but we'll see. Hopefully I can get a job at school and make some money so I can finish it before winter comes. If not, I guess it will have to wait until next summer. I'll try my hardest to get it all done though, I know my brother will help me finish it. It kills me not to be able to drive this Eagle yet.

This is all I still have to do:

-Remove Rust, Weld Panels, Floorboards, and Frame

-Bleed Rear Brakes

-Fix Shifter Button
-Fix Speedometer
-Finish Hanging Exhaust
-Fix and Install Driver Door Handle

-Adjust/Rebuild/Replace Carburetor (would like to just put on the Motorcraft)
-Replace Output Shaft Seal on Transfer Case
-Replace Right Lower Spring Seat
-Replace Tires

-Registration/Insurance/Emissions/Inspection

Not sure yet, but I may also have to get some new steering components, like tie rod ends (if I want it aligned correctly). It seems like a lot, but if I had the parts, my brother and I could do everything but the welding in just a few days. I can't believe school starts in a week...


Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on August 24, 2011, 12:57:14 AM
The painters tape pulled off the old paint. I may have left it on too long, but it pulled it off on another section after just a few minutes. This is the temporary spray job in black.

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-08-23_23-52-26_728.jpg)

Also started out the back section with primer, it was too thin and ran a lot. I'll sand it down tomorrow and try to fix it before putting on the top coat.

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-08-23_23-48-21_162.jpg)
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: philotomy on August 25, 2011, 09:42:23 AM
looking good
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Prafeston on August 25, 2011, 06:43:09 PM
Chug chug! You're train just keeps one moving! :)
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on August 25, 2011, 10:43:14 PM
Chug chug! You're train just keeps one moving! :)

It will, until Saturday when I leave. Heck, maybe I'll take something along to work on at school  ;)

Man, I really do chug along when time is running out. It feels like I got a ton done today.

Sportin' the new tail light lenses, thanks to vangremlin, and my sloppy paint job.
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-08-25_17-08-41_835.jpg)

Newly "rebuilt" carburetor.

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-08-25_21-18-28_931.jpg)

I didn't have a kit, so I just reused the old gaskets. I'm going to do it again another time, but I have to say that this was probably the easiest, most exciting and rewarding job I have done so far. Despite the complexity, I just labeled every little piece in baggies and took lots of pictures and it went real smooth. Started last night and finished this afternoon, only a few hours altogether.

I also discovered what I believe is the reason I went and put in a whole new brake booster. Right where the booster hose connects to the intake manifold, there is a T which sends air to the charcoal canister. The line that was connected to it had a big hole in it, and that's probably what I heard air coming from. Oh well, at least my booster shouldn't have problems anytime soon...
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: jim on August 25, 2011, 11:25:17 PM
That paint job does not look sloppy to me.
You've done really great, but soon you may have to change the name of your thread to Fall Job. ;D
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on August 25, 2011, 11:32:38 PM
The paint looks good everywhere that it didn't run, which was hardly anywhere. I guess from 20 feet away, or in pictures, it looks ok, but it is certainly much better than before. There are also a lot of sanding marks showing through, because I used a very low grit.

But thank you, it took me forever!
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: maddog on August 25, 2011, 11:48:40 PM
sounds like the paint job i'm doing on the racecar i'm building. looks good from a distance but if you get close you can see all the flaws in the paint but since mine is going on the track it doesn't matter. but yours looks good. just sand with some fine grain sandpaper and somemore paint (just remember to not spray heavy coats or it will run again) and it will look good no matter how close you get.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on August 28, 2011, 06:51:04 PM
Yeah, it's not a huge deal. My biggest objective was to keep it from rusting any further, and it will do just that. It will remain a 20-footer until I get a chance to paint the whole car and do a good job.

I was wondering how difficult it would be to remove the intake manifold, now that the carburetor is off. Maybe if I could at least clean it up and replace the gasket, it could look a bit nicer. Since everyone confirms that I do in fact have a 4.0 engine, is there any difference in the intake from a 4.2?

Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on August 28, 2011, 08:29:55 PM
I'll try to take pictures next weekend when I get home. I don't recall what it looked like exactly, just that they weren't so pretty from rust and oxidation.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: captspillane on August 29, 2011, 01:50:23 PM
Howdy Phil, I hope your family didn't have any flooding problems. The water flooded further in Schwenksville than I've ever seen it. My sister took alot of good pictures if you want to see them.

I think he's asking you for pictures of your exhaust because you described your motor as a 4.0 from a 1995 Wrangler. Your pictures clearly show a 258 cast manifold and aluminum intake original to the Eagle, so you don't have the 4.0 headers that require a bracket modification to use. If the previous owner told you that he put a motor from a YJ wrangler in your SX4, then its likely a 1988 or 1989 motor. I believe those were the last years for the carberated 4.2 motor, and I also believe they had already changed the bolt pattern on the head to accept a 4.0 valve cover then. Your original 4.2 motor in 1983 only had three bolts on the passenger side of the valve cover.

If you motor is actually from a 1995 Wrangler, it will not have a mechanical fuel pump. The 4.0 casting eliminated the hole there. I can see the top of a fuel pump in one of your pictures so that solves that. If a 1995 head was put on your 82 short block, then the intake manifold will be sitting above your exhoust manifold. The alignment pins for the fuel injection intake manifold would not engage your carb intake, so you would see two pins sticking out from under the bottom of the intake manifold. None of your pictures shows it clearly but I'm pretty confident you have a 4.2 head as well. For now I've concluded that the previous owner simply didn't know the year of the Wrangler the engine came from.

-Dave Spillane-
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on August 29, 2011, 02:15:07 PM
Yeah, I wasn't so sure myself which engine I have. I've gotten different responses from different people, but yours is the most thorough so far. The intake manifold was above the exhaust manifold from what I recall, but I'd have to see it again to tell if the pins are sticking out underneath. Unfortunately I did not get to take pictures with the carb off since I was in a major hurry. The valve cover has probably 15 bolts, or something like that, and people have told me it does look like the 4.0 cover. It does also have the mechanical fuel pump.

My mom said they didn't have any damage or bad flooding at her house, but my dad sent me a picture of the tree that fell on his convertible Triumph TR4 (in the Trappe area I believe) which he's had for probably 30 or 40 years. It was already a major project, but now it's even more of a project :(.

I was actually just over in Schwenksville a week ago volunteering at the Philly Folk Fest, and it was ridiculously muddy from a little bit of rain. I can't imagine if they would've had it during the hurricane, wouldn't mind seeing some pictures of the area if you have 'em.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: captspillane on August 29, 2011, 02:32:03 PM
In reply to “Casper” with the 4.0 head, I'll post pictures of my exhaust once I finish making it. On page 3 of his thread here on the project area of the forum, "tougeagle" already shows pictures of the exhaust he made if you need it immediately. From what I've seen so far I believe the axle support can remain in place if the lip around the edge is shaved down slightly. A donor midpipe flange from a Cherokee is needed to mate to the end of the header, but you don't want to retain more than a few inches from it. The Cherokee midpipe has a very profound crimp about 8 inches from the end that drastically reduces its diameter. You're best cutting off the last 4 inches to save just the flange before the crimped area and then welding that to new exhaust pipe. When I did the exhaust in my 151 Iron Duke I was able to use two prebent standard 90 degree elbows to go up and around the differential and then weld up nicely to my shortened midpipe. The 4.0 is obviously different than the 2.5, but the axle is the same and I do believe its an easier fabrication than you expect. I also put a stainless mesh piece of flexible exhaust pipe between my welded sections of midpipe and where the catalytic converter is rigidly fastened to the transmission crossmember. I do believe that allows the beginning sections of exhaust pipe to vibrate with the engine without fatiguing my welds.

I finished rebuilding my 4.5 stroker and am installing it next time I'm home. I use the term stroker lightly since it has the same displacement and 258 crank as a stroker, but I actually have an overbored 258 block and 4.0 head. Usually when you say Jeep stroker you’re talking about a 4.0 block mated with a 258 crank. My engine can’t be overbored anymore but the larger pistons in a 4.0 block have the potential to be overbored to a 4.9 displacement. I chose to switch to the wider serpentine belt from a 1995 Jeep 4.0 because I’ve had too many Eagles with screeching Vbelts over the years. It’s embarrassing. The 258 block is missing two bolt bosses needed to attach the Alternator bracket from a 1992 era 4.0, but in 1995 the top bolt of the alternator goes to the AC bracket and the smaller alternator bracket works fine. The timing chain cover from a 1995 also has a cool rubber bumper in it that prevents chain slap that the 258 cover didn’t have. I suggest changing those parts over too if you’re putting a 4.0 head, header, and fuel injection in your Eagle.

-Dave Spillane-
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: mudkicker715 on August 29, 2011, 03:04:09 PM
When I stroked mine I cut the"collector" off the  and welded true dualson. Took alot of patience and trial and welding and trial and repeat.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: captspillane on August 29, 2011, 03:44:21 PM
Howdy Phil, here are two great pictures of the flooding. Its a shame to hear about the damage to the Triumph.

(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x427/captspillane/FloodAug11.jpg)

(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x427/captspillane/Flood2Aug11.jpg)

Both of my 1987 Eagles have the older valve cover and 7/16 head bolts, but I've heard that 1987 was the year it changed on Wranglers. When they changed the casting in 1980 to add the bosses for our Eagle axles, AMC also lightened several areas of the block and also switched from 1/2 thread to 7/16 thread head bolts. I've heard that the 1987 up Wrangler 258s switched back to 1/2 thread head bolts and also got the new valve cover bolt pattern. They are the most desireable 258 to accept a 4.0 head because the bigger head bolts help center the head better. All 4.0's have 1/2 head bolts.

I've never had a problem lining up head gaskets and never purchased the 7/16 to 1/2 bolt spacers from Hesco because I made my own. I took an old pair of head studs from a 4.0 that have 7/16 threads at the top and 1/2 threads at the bottom and used a grinder to shave the 5/8 hex nut off of them. I then flipped them upside down, screwed the freshly smoothed 7/16 end into my 258 block and then slid the head perfectly down into position without disturbing the head gasket. The two smooth bolts twist right out by hand afterward. The head won't shift once its torqued down. Genius! I wish I thought of it on my own.

-Dave Spillane-
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on August 29, 2011, 04:17:26 PM
WOW, I wonder what that person was thinking when they left their car there! That is some pretty darn bad flooding, worse than I've ever seen it around there. Thanks for the pics!

Can't quite recall if my bolts are 1/2 or 7/16, but I have a feeling they are 1/2.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: captspillane on August 29, 2011, 04:51:39 PM
Did you have your head off to expose the top of the cylinders? I don't mean the 15 tiny 5/16 thread bolts that hold the valve cover down and use a 7/16 socket. The bolts I'm refering to are the real big ones that hold the head to the block. They use a 5/8 socket to remove them. The head bolts that are visible between the valve cover and the intake manifold look like studs, since they have 7/16 threads poking up from the top of them. Your idler pully bolts to the front two and a grounding cable to the body bolts to the top of the rear one. Our Eagle head bolts have the same size threads at the top of the bolt as the bottom, but 4.0 head bolts have a different size thread at the top than the bottom. The visible threads are always 7/16, regardless of whats down into your engine.

I've heard that at some point AMC or Chylser decided to make the head bolts "torque-to-yield" bolts. That means that the first time you use them they'll torque down more accurately because if you accidently overtorque one slightly more than the others it will yield and stretch to maintain an accurate torque setting. It also means that once you've used them once they should be thrown away. Its good practice to replace the head bolts every time you put an engine together, but those buggers are really expensive. I don't mind replacing the ones that are 25 years old, but then I'm going to reuse them. Hopefully I can find a trustworthy source who actually knows which head bolts are "torque-to-yield."
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: shaggimo on August 29, 2011, 05:00:39 PM
I've heard that at some point AMC or Chylser decided to make the head bolts "torque-to-yield" bolts. That means that the first time you use them they'll torque down more accurately because if you accidently overtorque one slightly more than the others it will yield and stretch to maintain an accurate torque setting. It also means that once you've used them once they should be thrown away. Its good practice to replace the head bolts every time you put an engine together, but those buggers are really expensive. I don't mind replacing the ones that are 25 years old, but then I'm going to reuse them. Hopefully I can find a trustworthy source who actually knows which head bolts are "torque-to-yield."

Not quite, true the bolts should only be used once, but they stretch as you torque them to the final number say 100ft lbs. after that you have to torque to yield which is a degree say 60 degrees, but it is not a true 60 degrees, a special tool is required to get an acurate torque, that 60 degrees may turn into 70, this is actually what compensates for the stretch.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: mudkicker715 on August 29, 2011, 06:30:34 PM
Yes znd no. eagles do not have torque to yield bolts. They are reuseable.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on August 29, 2011, 07:25:13 PM
Ah ok, then I guess I don't have a clue what size bolts are there. For some reason I was thinking about the valve cover bolts..
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: captspillane on August 30, 2011, 02:02:51 PM
It looks like your driver seat leans back further than your passenger seat. That usually means your lower seat frame just broke. The good news is that your seatback and lower seat cushion comes off easily and the broken frame unbolts from the sliding rails with only four bolts. There is also a bunch of zigzag seat supports that are usually broken that are easily fixed at the same time. If you catch it early the frame is just cracked and a repair is easily welded or bolted to bridge the crack.

Your 1982 seat is highly prized. I trash all my 81 seats because they don't recline and are considerably weaker than 82s and 83s. All of my 81 seat frames broke in ways not worth repairing. I'm going to put those seats into my station wagon too, because they look great and are very comfortable. Eagle Sedans and Station Wagons all came with really wide old-man seats.

Your hatch currently opens from a push button in the dash. I replace the push button with a solid switch as a rear hatch lock. I know of a walmart switch that uses the same two existing screws. I then put a doorbell button out of sight above the taillight. I usually leave the hatch unlocked when I lock my doors because no one would think to look for a switch, but I can disarm the rear button with the switch in the dash if I really need to lock the car. I also run a wire directly from the switch to a blanked off wire in the cargo compartment. That has saved me from destroying the interior panel multiple times by jumping the switch directly from a car battery. The first reason they are unreliable is that the switch in the dash sucks. The second is that you can't pull up on the lid while your hand is in the dash. It needs help to disengage sometimes. The third biggest reason is that the ground pin never makes a good connection and sometimes is straight up missing. I add a jump wire from the roof to the rear hatch. I tested the voltage across the solenoid before adding the jump wire, I got 6 volts, and then after adding the jump wire I got 12 volts. The solenoid is very weak if you have a weak ground.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on September 01, 2011, 12:41:40 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if the seat frame was busted, that one is very rusty underneath. I hope it's not too difficult to fix.

The seats in there are actually pretty comfortable, at least I think, and my mom even commented on how comfortable they are (when she helped bleed my brakes).

Where have you been all this time, Dave? I'm sure many people will appreciate your hatch button fix, and you seem to have a wealth of knowledge about these cars. Eggs to you!  :hello2:
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: captspillane on September 03, 2011, 09:09:15 PM
Your SX4 is quite sharp. An SX4 looks gorgeous and is an incredible driving experience. You have alot to look forward to. This is what your Eagle will look like with white Spirit turn signal lenses, a 1980 Eagle slit grill, and 1.5 inch wheel spacers on the rear axle. This is a picture from June 2011 of my daily driver SX4 before I dismantled it for restoration.

(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x427/captspillane/09-15-10_0216.jpg)
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on September 03, 2011, 10:56:56 PM
Wow, that's beautiful! Can't wait to be able to get mine driving. Just put the carb on this morning, but wasn't really able to get anything else done. It started up fine, but the idle still needs a little adjusting. I was just happy to see her.

If I can get a ride home from school (and back) next weekend, I would absolutely love to come see your garage and/or have you come take a look at my Eagle. Not sure if that will happen yet. I would really like to find a cheap beater A to B car so I can get an off campus job and make the trips myself.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on September 04, 2011, 12:48:42 AM
Here are some pictures of the intake manifold with the carburetor off:

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-09-03_10-59-35_805.jpg)

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-09-03_10-59-14_508.jpg)

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-09-03_10-59-03_673.jpg)

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-09-03_11-11-55_6.jpg)

The engine:

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-09-03_10-59-46_391.jpg)

And the rebuilt carburetor installed:

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-09-03_12-05-40_806.jpg)
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: ammachine390 on September 04, 2011, 02:03:09 AM
Looks like you have a 258 in there. As stated earlier, you have a mechanical fuel pump, which 4.0s didn't. The valve cover design is for a 258, however, I don't think that style would have been used on an 82. I guessing someone put a cylinder head (or maybe the whole engine) from an 87 or up in yours. And the exhaust manifold looks like a 258's as well.

And by the way, great job on making a ton of progress on your car. I wish I worked as fast as you.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on September 04, 2011, 12:06:37 PM
Ok, so it's probably just the whole 258 from a late 80s Jeep then. Thanks!

As you can see, I had loosened the bolts for the intake manifold so I could take it off and paint it, then realized that there was some tube going from the intake to exhaust which would prevent it from coming off alone. Not sure what the tube was, but it was sitting underneath where the carb goes and it looked like it would be extremely difficult to remove without screwing something up. I decided not to after all since I only had a day to mess with it and didn't want to drain the coolant.

Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: GRONK on September 04, 2011, 12:38:24 PM
That tube is part of the EGR system.  Not difficult to get off.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on September 04, 2011, 01:44:52 PM
It looked like it was screwed into both the intake and exhaust, correct? If so, I'm pretty sure the fittings were rusted to the tube, making it impossible to unscrew without destroying. I didn't take a real long, good look at it, so maybe I missed something.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Jurjen on September 04, 2011, 03:04:19 PM
No, you are right on the money.
When you start messing with it, it will probably be destroyed (pipe will break, or the nut will crumble) and new ones are hard to find.
Most Eaglers plug them anyway (if you do not need it for emmisions).
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on September 04, 2011, 03:18:02 PM
Ok, that's what I was thinking. I'll have to take it off eventually, but as long as I can put something there to make it look like it's together, it should be fine.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on September 13, 2011, 08:03:44 PM
Here's the Eagle as it sits right now:

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/IMG_0674.jpg)

Over the weekend, captspillane (Dave) took me on a tour to see most of his Eagles, as well as many other really cool cars he has. The Subaru 360 Microcars were pretty awesome, and his assortment of engines, transmissions, and parts was just out of this world (to me). We even stopped at a car show along the way and saw another Eagle wagon on the way out. Dave is extremely knowledgable of these cars, and was very kind to teach me how to drive stick shift. Needless to say, it was a fun, eventful weekend.

Also because of him, I was able to fix my driver door handle and get the panel all put back together. He gave me a new egg crate grill with no big cracks in it like mine. Still have to paint it black.

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/IMG_0672.jpg)

The best part is that he gave me a working shifter, so I was able to get that all fixed up!

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-09-11_13-52-19_951.jpg)
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Prafeston on September 13, 2011, 08:21:11 PM
Good deal man. Hope you can get her running it to school with you some time this semester.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on September 13, 2011, 10:27:08 PM
My hopes are to get it on the road by the end of winter break. Still have a bit of a ways to go, but I think it's doable.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: captspillane on September 25, 2011, 01:39:48 PM
So you need a welder, aye? This guy made one from scrap metal. Its really just a home-made transformer that multiplies the AC voltage he has it plugged into. You need alot of voltage to weld with a coat hangar, like he's doing. Transformers need AC inputs, DC doesn't work. A slab of metal heats up and loses power too much, so the trick is to use thin slices of metal insulated from each other as the transformer body.  The output of the transformer is governed by the input AC voltage and the ratio of wraps in the center of it. This one probably doubles his input voltage.

(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x427/captspillane/Eagleweb%20Postings/Feb08HomemadeWelder.jpg)

(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x427/captspillane/Eagleweb%20Postings/Feb08HomemadeTransformer.jpg)
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on September 25, 2011, 02:39:59 PM
Wow, it's pretty amazing how people come up with all these makeshift welders. Doesn't look pretty, but at least it gets the job done.

I still have to learn to weld properly, but I'm pretty confident that I could do the repairs myself. I hope to get a lot done when I'm home next in a couple weeks, and possibly get this thing up and driving.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: rollguy on September 25, 2011, 03:32:50 PM


(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x427/captspillane/Eagleweb%20Postings/Feb08HomemadeTransformer.jpg)
That has to be the weirdest thing I have ever seen!!
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on October 03, 2011, 02:58:42 AM
Fall Break is coming up and I will be home next weekend to work on my car. With a limited amount of time, I am gathering parts and deciding what I want to accomplish with this.

There are a lot of things I can do pretty easily, but I'm not exactly sure how long they will each take. I will have about 4 days and I want to complete as much as possible. I know I can work on several things in sequence, and I'm planning out exactly how I want the process to go so it will get done faster.

Right now, it basically goes like this:

-Re-do transmission pan gasket (correctly this time)
-Remove front and rear driveshafts
-Jack up trans crossmember to remove bolts and slowly lower transmission for access to cooler line fittings
-Replace transmission cooler lines
-Clean up around trans and crossmember gunk
-Jack up crossmember and reinstall bolts
-Remove and replace all four u-joints on the driveshafts
-Reinstall driveshafts in alignment
-Fill transmission fluid
-Attempt to finish bleeding brakes
-Finish hanging exhaust
-Possibly test drive?

The actual list is a lot longer and more detailed than this, with individual steps so I can check off EXACTLY what to do. I've got all the little things covered, like making sure to have the hood open when the trans is lowered and drawing a line on the driveshafts for removal. I've been making myself well aware of the entire process for all of this. Just didn't want to bore you more than I already am ;D

If I get a chance to meet up with Dave (captspillane), I would also like to change out my coil spring seats if he has them, maybe upper control arms too, and paint them all up including the springs. Then I want to put on a new steering damper/shock/stabilizer, whatever you want to call it, so I don't have problems with it in the near future. Maybe I'll even get to put some other tires on as well, the one is completely flat.

I highly doubt I'll get any welding done, but ya never know. Maybe my brother will volunteer for that??? ;)


Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on October 13, 2011, 12:02:02 AM
So, I got more and less done over break than I had hoped for. However, it moved along nicely and is just a few steps away from a drivable vehicle.

I painted my brake drums with caliper paint:
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-10-09_15-08-23_709.jpg)

Painted my rear drive shaft and installed new u-joints:
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-10-09_17-56-39_609.jpg)

Got pictures of the rear brake overhaul I did a while back:
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-10-08_18-02-23_155.jpg)

Dave also came over and helped immensely. He's a real animal when it comes to these cars ;)

He put on my new steering stabilizer, which looks great and is snugged up with some anti-seize lubricant. Unfortunately I didn't get a pic of that while I had the chance.

I re-did the trans pan gasket, but the threads on a few bolt holes were stripped which probably caused some of the leakage before. We went back to Dave's garage where he custom made a couple new slightly larger bolts and enlarged the gasket holes, then came back and tapped the holes for nice new threads. The pan went back on snug with the new bolts, but some of the old ones were still spinning a little bit so we left it be for now.

We also tapped the bolt holes for the trans crossmember and put in some much nicer, clean bolts. They went in like butter, and had some anti-seize on them too. One old bolt head sheared off, so that will have to be drilled out later.

I was removing the trans cooler lines, and when I looked up, Dave had all of my seats out of the car stacked in a neat pile. I couldn't believe how fast he did it, but that's great because they needed to come out to remove the carpet eventually. I got the trans lines off, but didn't have enough time to put new ones on.

I also removed the front drive shaft to replace the u-joints the next time I'm home. While looking up at that, I noticed my kickdown linkage to the trans is rusted in 3 pieces. Maybe that's why it wouldn't shift, but I hope to get that fixed next time as well.

I helped Dave in his garage tear down the suspension and front crossmember on one of his Eagle parts cars, while he disassembled an engine and guided me along the way. In exchange, he gifted me with these gems:
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/CoilSpringsandSeats.jpg)

plus a pair of barely used front shocks. I'll get these scrubbed down and painted later and replace my rusted out junk. They were from the car we took apart, those springs were a bear to get out.

We had a little confusion for one part though. When I replaced the rear u-joints, there was no ridge to hold the two bearing cups in place. The old ones were held by a pair of U shaped clips, but the new part doesn't have a slot for these clips. I tried reusing the clips, but they pressed out the boots on the cups and it still slides back and forth. Anyone know what I'm talking about and a solution, besides using the old bearing cups?
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: rollguy on October 13, 2011, 12:34:24 AM

We had a little confusion for one part though. When I replaced the rear u-joints, there was no ridge to hold the two bearing cups in place. The old ones were held by a pair of U shaped clips, but the new part doesn't have a slot for these clips. I tried reusing the clips, but they pressed out the boots on the cups and it still slides back and forth. Anyone know what I'm talking about and a solution, besides using the old bearing cups?

Sounds like you got the wrong U joints.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: macdude443 on October 13, 2011, 12:42:13 AM
Really admiring your work, an egg for you.  You must be pretty close to where I grew up.  I'm from Douglassville, near Pottstown right off 422.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: maddog on October 13, 2011, 02:21:32 AM

We had a little confusion for one part though. When I replaced the rear u-joints, there was no ridge to hold the two bearing cups in place. The old ones were held by a pair of U shaped clips, but the new part doesn't have a slot for these clips. I tried reusing the clips, but they pressed out the boots on the cups and it still slides back and forth. Anyone know what I'm talking about and a solution, besides using the old bearing cups?

i had the same thing happen as it was the only mode of transportation i had at the time i just said screw it and reused the old caps. just make sure you clean them out real good before you regrease them and don't take the other caps off till your ready to put the old ones on and make sure that all the needle are there before you put the caps on other wise you will destroy them very quickly.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on October 13, 2011, 01:27:08 PM
Ok, thanks for the part number! That looks exactly right. I'll just switch the one I have on there now to the front drive shaft where it has the ridges and get one of those Precision ones for the rear. It'll be easier than reusing the old cups, since a bunch of the rollers came out of place and they were extremely dirty, plus the dust boots were pretty much shot.


Really admiring your work, an egg for you.  You must be pretty close to where I grew up.  I'm from Douglassville, near Pottstown right off 422.

Thanks for the egg! I gave you one for your project as well. My brother and grandparents live in Douglassville, and my Eagle is 5 minutes from Pottstown. Where in central PA are you right now? I go to Shippensburg University, about an hour from the East Coast Eagle Sanctuary.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: macdude443 on October 13, 2011, 02:02:32 PM
I'm in Johnstown now.  I went to Penn State and recently moved here to pursue my radio career.  I have some friends who went to Ship.  I think they've all graduated now.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on October 13, 2011, 03:44:49 PM
Ok, nice. We'll have to meet up some time if you're back home. User captspillane (Dave) on here is also in Schwenksville, and has a ton of Eagles spread out through that area.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: macdude443 on October 13, 2011, 03:47:31 PM
Good to know.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: mach1mustang351 on October 14, 2011, 02:01:51 AM
"We had a little confusion for one part though. When I replaced the rear u-joints, there was no ridge to hold the two bearing cups in place. The old ones were held by a pair of U shaped clips, but the new part doesn't have a slot for these clips. I tried reusing the clips, but they pressed out the boots on the cups and it still slides back and forth. Anyone know what I'm talking about and a solution, besides using the old bearing cups?"

you got the wrong u-joint. you will find WAY TO OFTEN the stupid parts stores condense part #'s. a u-joint the same dimentions, but worng clips. your looking for the joint i have right in my hand. it is a PRECISION u-joint, part # 455. thats what fit my sx4. before i found it, i didn get away just fine (one sx4 still runs this way) on the bolt on strap, i welded a lip to hold the caps in. you should be able to cross refrence that # to get the correct joint. KEEP THAT BOX TAB WITH THE PART # IN YOUR GLOVE BOX!!!! i try to keep track of all part #'s that are harder to find.


Let's not blame the parts stores.  I have worked in Auto Parts for 8 years now and the main issue is that no parts supplier that I know of knows how to clearly list U joints in a computer.  I have always used paper catalogs to find U joints because of this.   
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: shaggimo on October 14, 2011, 11:22:20 AM
Let's not blame the parts stores.  I have worked in Auto Parts for 8 years now and the main issue is that no parts supplier that I know of knows how to clearly list U joints in a computer.  I have always used paper catalogs to find U joints because of this.   

Absolutely!!  :occasion14: Not even factory joints are easy to look up, I've just gotten to the point where I go look at the U joint on the truck, then go find it on the shelf, much easier than fighting the computer for a straight answer, lol.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on October 14, 2011, 12:17:40 PM
Yeah, I bought them at Advance online, and they never have good specifications for things. I googled the part # that casper gave me, found out what other vehicles it fits, and then searched for u-joints for that car on Advance's website. Lo and behold, they do have the correct ones, just not listed under AMC Eagle. Plus they're only about $9 each and Advance has some really good discounts with online coupons.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: shaggimo on October 14, 2011, 01:50:12 PM
I ran into that too, the electronic catalog not even listing u joints for an eagle, had to teach the kid behind the counter how to use the book, lol.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on October 14, 2011, 05:32:05 PM
Finally arrived today. This thing is unbelievable!
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/photobucket-1254-1318627616118.jpg)
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on October 26, 2011, 04:27:14 PM
This past weekend, I was able to get in a little bit of work while home.

I painted the front driveshaft and installed the new u-joints.

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-10-23_11-27-39_218.jpg)

Also painted my coil springs and one of the spring seats. The springs didn't turn out so well because it ended up being too cold out for the paint to cure up correctly. Hopefully it holds up, because I'm not doing that again. If I ever need springs after these, I'll just buy them new and get them powder coated (if they don't come that way already).

Stupid me, I should have listened to casper and bought that exact u-joint for the rear  :banghead:. The one I got was slightly too wide and didn't fit between the straps. I didn't find this out until after I installed it in the driveshaft. Had to take it out, and now I'm going to order the correct one.

I finally took the time to spray down a ton of bolts on the car with penetrating oil (liquid wrench). Went through about 2 cans :o. Haven't used it in a while anyway.

Here is my new steering stabilizer that Dave installed for me last time.

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/SteeringStabilizer.jpg)

I purchased new steel trans cooler lines to install next time. Then I can get this baby up and running.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on October 26, 2011, 08:56:51 PM
Yeah, my first off-road drive was pretty unforgettable, even though it stalled out a couple times and hardly had brakes ;)

I am so eager to have it drive again, just a little more!
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on November 07, 2011, 11:17:52 PM
So, I'll be home again this coming weekend to work on the car. Maybe this time I'll get it driving???

Anyway, I was wondering if anyone knew an exact U-joint from Advance, NAPA, or AutoZone that will fit the rear drive shaft/rear axle? None of those stores carry the Precision part #455 which I want by the weekend, and I'm afraid it won't arrive in time if I order it online. This way, I could just pick it up at the nearest store.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on November 08, 2011, 09:24:09 PM
Thanks. It's taken care of, Dave ordered the right part for me and said they should have it in tomorrow. Now I don't have to worry about it anymore.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Prafeston on November 08, 2011, 09:35:28 PM
Can't wait for you to have everything all finished up so you can start driving this thing! You've done great so far.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on November 08, 2011, 11:53:04 PM
If everything goes as planned (it never does :P), the trans cooler lines will be installed, rear u-joint replaced and drive shafts put back in, trans fluid filled, kickdown linkage replaced, and brakes finished bleeding. It should be driveable at that point.

I may even be able to buy my new tires and wheels from Dave and give the wheels a decent paint job.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on November 14, 2011, 07:48:20 PM
Got a lot done this past weekend.

New wheels and tires:
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-11-13_12-29-28_862.jpg)

Before
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-11-13_12-52-29_803.jpg)

During
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-11-13_12-59-37_516.jpg)
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-11-13_13-56-42_289.jpg)
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-11-13_13-56-50_58.jpg)

After
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-11-13_15-34-55_889.jpg)
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-11-13_15-53-32_668.jpg)

Battery tray and mounting plate both wire wheeled and painted with epoxy paint, and I installed a new starter solenoid. All bolts were applied with never-seize and all connections applied with generous amounts of dielectric grease. Also got one shock mount off and painted, as well as my other new spring perch.

I installed the new transmission cooler lines, put both drive shafts back in, tightened and filled the trans pan, and finally got that (kind of) new rear u-joint in. After a solid three months, I was able to start her for the first time. Unfortunately, that's as far as I got because of time constraints. When I'm home for Thanksgiving break, it may be the start of welding.

Casper- we used that Precision #455 joint for the rear and it had the same problem as the other one with clips I bought. The grooves were slightly wider than my old joint and didn't allow the clips to fit into the yoke. Ended up cleaning off my old caps and just slipping them on the new joint. It worked fine and they are still in decent shape.

Question: When I started the car and went to shift through the gears, the car died in neutral with my foot on the brake. I adjusted the idle speed and tried again. This time, it idled very high and dropped about half the rpms in neutral, but stayed running. About 30 seconds later, the car started smoking real bad. I shifted back into park, as the engine seemed to be picking up the idle speed, and shut the car off quick. When I looked under the car, the smoke was pouring out of the bell housing. My cooler lines leaked a little bit in one spot, but not enough for me to think they were the problem. The trans pan had at least a gallon of fluid in it as well.

I read this could be due to the torque converter locking up when it shouldn't, or maybe the transfer case was in neutral. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on November 28, 2011, 11:31:02 PM
This Thanksgiving, I was extremely thankful for air tools(among others)! It was a very productive break, and I WAS FINALLY ABLE TO DRIVE MY EAGLE AFTER NEARLY SIX MONTHS!!!  :occasion14:

Of course, I have a lot of adjusting to do (throttle rod linkage, shift linkage and carb idle are way off), but I feel like the trans is going to be quite manageable without a rebuild (yet). I also have to lock the front axle in 4wheel, forgot about this and only switched the transfer case. In fact, a couple minutes after I started driving the car, my rear tires sunk into the mud in the back yard and just spun :P. I switched to what I thought was 4wheel and it got out, but I don't actually think the front wheels pulled at all. I proceeded to drive for about 15 minutes with no problem.

I also finished installing the new coil springs, spring seats, shocks, and getting everything around there cleaned,  painted and undercoated nicely. I'm working on getting my pictures of the completed job since I left my camera at home.
Before (passenger) with rusted through spring seat:
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-11-23_12-19-24_611.jpg)
 (http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-11-23_12-19-14_725.jpg)
There was literally no back half of the spring seat left by the time I got it out. Forgot to get a pic (D'oh!).

During (passenger), stripping upper control arm and painting:
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-11-23_17-32-50_591.jpg)
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/IMG_0738.jpg)
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/IMG_0743.jpg)
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/IMG_0741.jpg)
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/IMG_0745.jpg)
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/IMG_0746.jpg)

Also put in a new temperature sensor:
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/IMG_0749.jpg)

I have so many more things I want to do right now, the wheels are really turning in my head! I have about $250 in steering parts I need now, including tie rods, ball joints, and sway bar links. When I can afford those, I'll probably tear down the rest of that stuff and paint it all. Maybe I'll even tear down the crossmember and paint that, along with my engine oil pan. Now I'm just getting carried away ;D

I'll post pictures of the driver side and finished products as soon as I get them. There are many more pictures on my Photobucket album right now. The other side I decided to coat with cold galvanizing compound before topcoat and undercoat. Hopefully it will hold up well, that stuff made it look so clean under there!.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on November 29, 2011, 09:18:30 PM
Thanks. I really do want to paint and coat everything I possibly can to keep it from rusting any further. I'll test out the 4wheel next time I can, after I get a chance to adjust the linkages and lock the front axle.

Here are a couple more pics of the driver side. Wire wheeled it down and coated with galvanizing compound, then decided to coat what's left of the rockers and floor areas.

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/IMG_0750.jpg)
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/IMG_0752.jpg)
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/IMG_0757.jpg)
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/IMG_0758.jpg)

My new painted springs, shocks, perches, and control arms:

Passenger
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/IMG_0759.jpg)

Driver
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/IMG_0760.jpg)

The undercoat makes it look brown instead of black, but it's still way better. Some of that on the springs was still wet.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on December 05, 2011, 10:27:54 PM
My car now starts, idles, and shifts correctly, thanks to Dave ;D He replaced a bunch of wires going to the starter solenoid which came loose inside, preventing any electricity from coming from the battery or starting the car. He also gave me a different choke horn for my carburetor, since the arm on mine was frozen, then adjusted the carb with me in the car. We also set out to adjust the shift linkage, which still needs a new bushing, and he got it set up correctly after a while.

I locked in the front axle with a hose clamp, and prepped the vacuum motor and skid plate for painting. I have a ton of parts on the way, and I have my work cut out for me over winter break. Can't wait!

Eagle and Scout hangin' out.
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-12-04_16-06-57_107.jpg)
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Prafeston on December 06, 2011, 04:54:12 AM
You're moving right along man. That Scout looks sweet too. Yours...or your buddies?
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on December 06, 2011, 11:17:28 AM
Thanks guys. That's Dave's new 1980 turbo diesel SD33T Scout (captspillane on here). He owns about 15 or so Eagles and has been helping me with mine for the past few months. He's got the "Perkiomen Eagle Sanctuary" here in Eastern PA ;)

I should be working on the rust this winter. I was thinking of having some large braces made for the subframe, then bolting/welding them in on both sides (with as much rust removed as possible), and painting over all of it with Rust Bullet or something similar so that nothing should ever get in there again.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on December 25, 2011, 11:40:52 PM
Haven't had internet all week, so I figured I'd update what I've done on the Eagle since I've been home for winter break.

- Removed the seats, inside panels and carpet to inspect for further rust
- Painted the rear hatch area with 2 coats of Rust Bullet Auto paint
- Cleaned the starter and installed new brushes
- Installed new strut rod bushings
- Installed new sway bar links
- Installed and greased new upper and lower ball joints
- Reattached and adjusted the throttle linkage
- Put a new bushing on the shift linkage
- Started to drill out the sheared bolt on the trans crossmember
- Expanded my muffler and put it on temporarily, working on the hangers
- Installed a new ignition coil for the heck of it
- Put in all new marker and rear light bulbs
- Greased the ash tray tracks (I'm particularly proud of this job  ;D)
- Started to prep for welding

I still have to install my tie rods and a few other parts. I'm really getting a move on it while I have the time at home.

Strut rod bushings
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/photobucket-3145-1324497955051.jpg)

Sway bar links
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/photobucket-3638-1324498153275.jpg)

Hatch floor before
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-12-22_15-12-24_339.jpg)

Hatch floor after
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/IMG_0767.jpg)

There are a whole lot more photos on my photobucket album.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on December 26, 2011, 12:32:18 AM
Good idea, just changed it. The link is on the first page of this thread also, but i hardly ever look that far back either.

Pertaining to the family, they are very lenient and usually don't see me when I'm working on this lol ;) But I try to make time for them. Took the past couple days off for the holiday haha. Since I have no job at home, I have plenty of time during break from school.

 My brother will probably be doing the welding for me, since I don't have any welding experience or a welder (yet). I have acquired a ton of tools over the course of this project, just not one of those.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: priya on December 26, 2011, 12:36:11 PM
I think you've got that left hand washer on backwards for the strut rod bushing.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on December 26, 2011, 02:13:26 PM
I wasn't sure if it was on correct or not, but the washer and bushings are one assembly. So it cannot be flipped around without flipping the bushing, and that wouldn't make sense.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: priya on December 26, 2011, 02:50:49 PM
Okay, sorry I got it wrong.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on December 26, 2011, 02:53:59 PM
No problem, thanks for the input. I was wondering why it was like that myself.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: 68AMXGOPAC on January 01, 2012, 11:08:27 PM
I think you've got that left hand washer on backwards for the strut rod bushing.

X2 on that it is backwards for sure, I just looked at mine in the garage, not sure how it is it ended up that way for you.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: 68AMXGOPAC on January 01, 2012, 11:12:14 PM
maybe it was manufactured incorrectly. My bushings and washers were seperate from each other, I have never seen them molded together like that - so I don't know what to say now ?? But your suspicion is correct, it looks wrong and surely isn't compressing much bieng that way with  both of the contact points ( washer to bushing) bieng the smallest of surface area on each.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on January 01, 2012, 11:29:09 PM
Who knows, maybe they sent me the wrong part. I know RockAuto got about six other things wrong in that order, so it's quite possible. But they did seem to be holding firm, much better than the old bushings. It's not that hard to change it if I have to, and maybe they'll get fixed when I get an alignment later.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: ammachine390 on January 01, 2012, 11:45:14 PM
Mine are the same way. I am guessing you bought Moog bushings. The washers and bushings are made as 1 unit
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on January 02, 2012, 12:13:48 AM
Yep, Moog bushings. I heard they were the best ones, and they were also the cheapest.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: maddog on January 02, 2012, 02:47:59 AM
when i put new ones on Eagle Eyes the ones they gave at the parts store were just like that so i fixed them to the way they are supposed to be.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: mach1mustang351 on January 02, 2012, 05:26:12 PM
I have these Moog bushings as well and I haven't installed them yet.  What is interesting about the "backwards" washer is they are stamped which position they are supposed to be in.  It would probably take a phone call to Moog but this may have something to do with these being "problem solver" parts.  Just a thought. 
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on January 02, 2012, 09:13:06 PM
It's too bad they didn't just put a little slip in the box showing how it should look, that would make it much more clear.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on February 06, 2012, 07:49:08 PM
So I got to see my Eagle over the weekend. Replaced the Carter vacuum choke pull-off with a new one I got a while back. Charged the battery and she started right up with no problem. I added some more fluid to the trans after checking once, but didn't get to re-check the level because I ran out of gas.

The Eagle is nestled safely under my carport with a new cover to protect from the elements. It will remain there until summer time again when I get a chance to seriously work on it. I got another car recently to get me around, so I've decided to go the extra mile and do either the 4.0 head swap, or just drop the entire 4.0 engine in. I'm working on a deal to acquire a '91 H.O. with the entire stock FI setup, so I can eventually replace the carb. If I'm able to remove the current engine at some point, it will allow me to do a much more thorough rust protection/paintjob on the engine compartment.

The dreaming has only just begun, but the wheels are in motion to make it happen. This baby will be awesome when I'm done with it :eagle:
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on February 14, 2012, 12:24:17 AM
I am getting a fuel injected 4.0!!! :hello2:

The email I received from the gentleman:
Quote
Hi Phil,
 
I can deliver it this week-end for no gas money to your place in Schwenksville for $400 - $65 = $335 cash total.  I have attached all the pics I have of the motor and associated parts so you can see them full size.  If there is any specific pictures you would like I can take them tonight and send them to you tonight.
 
I went to your link on the SX website a few e-mails ago and the only thing I request is that you include my e-mail in your updates on your progress with your project.  The other thing I think it would be best if you came to my house first in Westtown just off of Routes 352 and 926 to see what you are getting just to make sure this is what you want.  Then I could follow you back to your place.
 
I will also include some manuals I have that have wiring diagrams to help you wire it up.  It won't be easy but you can do it.  You can even use me as a resource for technical info / guidance.  My comanche was an 87 with a standard 4.0Litre with Renix - Bendix (French) fuel injection and what I was going to upgrade to is the 91-96 4.0 Litre High Output with Chrylers fuel injection system.  I have been modifing cars for a long time.  I have ASE Certification as a Master Automobile Technician since 1984.  I don't know it all but what I do know I'm willing to share, and I do know what I do NOT know when it comes to cars and you will too!!
 
As a side note I used to live in Skippack a long time ago and I am very familiar with the area and I would love to relocate back to that area (especially on 12 accres!!!!)  but I don't think I could convince my wife!!!
 
Anyhow, let me know what you think.
 
Thanks,
Howard

This is the entire '91 H.O. 4.0, 80,000 miles, with both manifolds, valve cover, 2 fuel rails and sets of injectors, complete wiring harness, throttle cable(s), 2 ECMs, flexplate and flywheel, distributor, new oil pump, new timing chain and gears, new water pump, new thermostat, new engine mounts, manuals with wiring diagrams, some gaskets, an engine stand, and free delivery- all for $335 and trades for a Pneumatic Stapler and a halogen work light. I got lucky on this find, and I'm so excited! I should be going home this coming weekend to buy it and start a new chapter on my Eagle.

This was supposed to be a rebuild and swap candidate for Howard's late, great '87 Comanche, but unfortunately for him (and Jeep lovers everywhere) the Comanche was totaled and the swap was never completed. Now the torch is passed to me, and I WILL complete my Eagle no matter what it takes.

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/40LHOr.jpg)
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/40LHOf.jpg)
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/40LHOlr.jpg)
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/40LHOspareFIpts-wiringharness-ECU.jpg)
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/40LHOnewparts.jpg)
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on February 14, 2012, 02:38:58 PM
Well haha, that would be cool. But one of my main objectives is to make it more fuel efficient, and I really don't wanna have to use anything but regular fuel. If it was just going to become a "few times a summer" show car, I wouldn't mind, but I would rather be able to drive it often. I'll turn my next Eagle into a stroker when I can afford performance parts  ;)
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on February 19, 2012, 12:40:13 PM
Yesterday's haul:
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/IMG_0831.jpg)

Engine looks good, just needs a bit of cleaning up and de-rusting. The great part is it came with almost every gasket and part I will need to rebuild and install the MPI, plus a few extras.

I still have a few things to do today, so I'll update again later. I started tearing it down yesterday, but didn't get real far.

Exhaust header is cracked in the couple usual places, but either my brother will weld it for me or I'll get a $90 one from the 'bay.
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/IMG_0850.jpg)

Intake with a spare throttle body
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/IMG_0851.jpg)

Valve Cover and timing case ready to be cleaned up
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/IMG_0852.jpg)
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: 68AMXGOPAC on February 19, 2012, 12:51:32 PM
I would go with the one Captspilane recomended he found on the bay, seems it has flex pipe where it needs it so it doesn't crack, if you can swing it.I need to do the same for my 4.0 if I ever get to put it in , as it has the solid exhaust like you are showing.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: captspillane on February 19, 2012, 03:11:49 PM
You're on a tighter budget than most, so I'm assuming that you won't use the expensive Hesco CPS kit. This is something I'll do as well since the Hesco kit is relatively fragile. The Crank Position Sensor can be installed on your TF998 if you buy a flexplate with the proper notches. Here is some information I found today.

You need to get a flexplate from a 1991 to 1995 YJ Wrangler. (A 93 to 96 Grand Cherokee supposedly has the same flexplate). You can use either the square XJ sensor or the round YJ sensor. If you use the round YJ sensor you just need to drill a half inch hole in the bellhousing. If you get the square one you will need to make a much larger hole in the bellhousing. You put a thin piece of cardboard the thickness of a matchbook cover on the sensor and then adjust that snug to the flexplate. A new sensor actually comes with the cardboard in place. I attached a picture from the Novak website with their solution.

A Renix style flexplate and an AW4 flexplate will not work. 1990 and older sensors had different trigger notches. The AW4 flexplate puts the torque converter 5mm closer to the transmission, which will quickly do alot of damage.

I've also seen evidence that the 97-04 sensors use 5 volts while the 91-96 use 8 volts.

All of the Jeep transmissions are clocked the same except the NSG370. That has the same notches clocked differenty on the flywheel to match the different hole. You'll have to measure the spacing between the bellhousing bolts on my AW4 or AX15.

http://www.amceaglenest.com/images/PDFS/Joshs%204.0%20Walkthrough.pdf
 
(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x427/captspillane/2012%20Eagle%20Web/amc_cps_install.jpg)
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on February 21, 2012, 08:26:15 PM
The header will depend mainly on whether or not I can afford it, but hopefully I'll be able to by the time I actually install everything (shooting for sometime near the end of summer).

I'm glad you linked that write-up, Dave. I feel like I've seen it before, but I don't know where. I might just get one of those flexplates new when it comes time, they're about $50-60 online.

My wiring harness will take some major sorting out, and I hope the ECM/PCM modules are usable. The good looking one was chopped off like an inch from where the wires go in, and the other that's still attached has a broken case.

I started by removing the valve cover, timing case, intake/exhaust, ignition coil, spark plugs, wires, dipstick tube, and pretty much every bolt I could take out, except for the oil pan and head bolts. The bolts are currently soaking in vinegar, which has worked wonders on the bolts that held my seats and seatbelts in.

I attempted to clean all these attachments, but I didn't have enough time at home to really get to them. I almost finished cleaning up the spare throttle body in carb dip (left):

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/IMG_0871.jpg)

I also tapped just about every bolt hole I could- valve cover, timing case, mounts, coil, water pump, thermostat housing, and intake/exhaust:

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/IMG_0854.jpg)
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/IMG_0858.jpg)
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/IMG_0860.jpg)

I know it's been done, but I was thinking about painting the AMC logo onto the block. I'd probably paint the cylinder head black or silver then, and the valve cover I think will be polished aluminum/silver color. The car is going to be all black eventually.

Going back to the Eagle, I once again tried to get the correct level of fluid in the transmission to drive it. Upon adding gas and fuel stabilizer, I got her started up and pulled the dipstick out, only to have the end of it break off in my hand. Ahh! Oh well, I'll get it next time. Also discovered a leak in my heater core, right where the one hose attaches. I'm pretty sure it's not the hose, but I need to take a closer look later.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on February 21, 2012, 10:37:09 PM
Actually Dave, could the flexplate I got with the engine work? This may have been out of a cherokee, so probably not, but Josh's write-up says a '91 wrangler's will work. I may have to compare it with one you have. I need to figure out what the wiring harness is from, because it could be from a different year. The one ECM says "'91 Chrokee", but the actual harness has a different one attached. According to the write-up, that would probably make my wiring harness an OBDI, and a whole different ballpark.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: captspillane on February 22, 2012, 03:03:33 AM
91 to 96 is perfect. That's the range of years that the Hesco kit is based off of. Most likely your flexplate is an AW4 version, which will not work. I looked it up today and the writeup was wrong about ZJ's, its only the Wranglers that had the correct flexplate. Flexplates are known to crack, so you're best off buying a new one for peace of mind.

There is one way to tell if you have the whole wiring harness. The AW4 and AX15 CPS sensor is square and the Wrangler one is round. I hope to use the Wrangler sensor to install a CPS on our TF998s because the round sensor fits nicely in a round 1/2 hole. The square hole takes more work to install.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on February 22, 2012, 12:25:50 PM
Aw man, I wish I had taken a second to look for that when I had the harness out. I suppose you're right about the flexplate, better to be safe about it. Guess I need to start a parts list lol.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Pat on February 22, 2012, 04:42:41 PM
Just wanted to add my 2¢ in & say you're doing a GREAT job & congrats.!!!
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on February 22, 2012, 06:24:55 PM
Thanks OldFordMan, I'm doing all I can to bring her back to life!
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Whuntmore on February 27, 2012, 04:11:22 PM
Holy crap!  That's a lot of work.  Keep it up.  I'm enjoying this topic totally.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on February 27, 2012, 10:32:51 PM
Thanks! I can't wait to get on it in a couple more weeks. I'm thinking of running a large electric fan in place of the mechanical 4.0 fan to solve the clearance issue, but that's another expense to add to the project.

I feel like the swap will have to wait a while until I can get the funds to fix/restore everything else, which could easily be another $1000. I could cut corners and get everything done faster, but I really want it to be in great shape by the time it's done. On top of all the parts, I'll still need a lot of paint, and that's one thing I can't skimp on in order to prevent rust.

For the car, I'm still looking at:
-possibly new 3-core aluminum radiator (I want some overkill to protect the 4.0 investment)- $200
-Monroe Sensa-Trac Rear Shocks- $70
-New Heater Core
-Rust Bullet Paint to finish interior/underbody- $100+
-any further sheet metal needed for rust repair
-paint

4.0 Rebuild Parts:
-Harmonic Balancer
-Piston Rings- $25-$60
-Engine Paint
   Optional/As Needed
        -Comp Performance Camshaft- $145
        -Head Bolts- $50   
        -Main Bearing Set- $40
        -Connecting Rod Bearing Set- $16
        -Freeze Plugs- $10
        -PermaDry Valve Cover Gasket- $30

4.0 Swap Parts
-YJ Flex-Plate- $50
-Inline Fuel Pump- $100-$175
-Electric Fan Setup- $30-$100
-4.0 Starter
-4.0 Alternator
-possibly 4.0 A/C Compressor w/pulley
-Fuel Pressure Regulator
-High Pressure Fuel Injection Line
-Exhaust Manifold- $90
-Exhaust Pipe
-Serpentine Belt- $30

Future/Eventually:
-Royal Purple Gear Oil Front/Rear
-New Idler Arm
-New CV Halfshafts
-New Leaf Springs with shackles and u-bolts
-Receiver Hitch
-Weatherstripping
-Headliner
-Carpet
-New Speakers
-Replace a lot of old wiring
-New aluminum sport wheels or Spirit wheels
-NP242 Transfer Case
-Rebuild A998 Transmission- $300- or convert to AW4 transmission (new driveshafts and all kinds of expensive goodies)
-All synthetic Royal Purple Trans Fluid- $100

I know, I have expensive/excessive taste ;D
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Prafeston on February 27, 2012, 10:41:46 PM
Wow, that's quite the to-do list!

I like the attitude though. If you are gonna do it. Do it right!
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on February 28, 2012, 12:45:57 AM
i just need the $$$ to blow on them. lol.

Likewise lol. I'm saving up, but that don't mean jack! Haha. We'll see where I get by the end of summer. Thanks guys!
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on March 02, 2012, 12:14:51 AM
Got this Motorcraft 2150 at an auction the other day for $3.00. It's got 1.21 jets, so it's not fit for an Eagle, but I'm going to rebuild it to sell online. Everything moves freely as it should, there are no cracks in the body, and the throttle arm has no play. Good deal! Just needs an electric choke and vacuum pull-off.

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2012-02-28_22-30-33_884.jpg)

I'm kicking myself because I was at an auction today where I could've had about 20 or more carbs to rebuild, and I let myself be outbid. They sold for $150, there were a few Motorcraft 2150s, some Holley 4bbls, Carter 1bbls, and lots of others I hadn't dug into. I really enjoy working with carbs now, and it would've been a lot of fun to be able to rebuild them to sell while at school.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on March 09, 2012, 08:13:50 PM
Home for spring break... let's get this party started!

...and by party, I mean work on my Eagle. lol.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Prafeston on March 10, 2012, 12:09:08 AM
im waiting to see how much you get blasted out of the way on your spring break.

+1
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on March 10, 2012, 12:26:42 AM
im waiting to see how much you get blasted out of the way on your spring break.

+2  ;D
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on March 10, 2012, 12:36:44 AM
what you didn't see is that I posted +3 and changed it lol. Gotta get my stuff straight right now!
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on March 13, 2012, 01:45:06 AM
Got to my car for the first time today, I've been busy seeing family the past couple days. Didn't finish much, but got a couple things done. I got a new dipstick and finally got to check/fill the trans fluid correctly. Drove the car around the yard a little bit and didn't seem to have any major problems. It was definitely way more responsive than before my shift kit. There were some loud clunks when I put it in gear, but I still need to grease the driveshafts which I believe are the culprit.

New hood light from captspillane.
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2012-03-12_18-15-24_79.jpg)

My first wiring venture with a new license plate lamp socket. Worked on the first try!
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2012-03-12_19-24-23_50.jpg)

Had her out in the field at night, making tracks in the grass.
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2012-03-12_20-04-39_619.jpg)
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on March 13, 2012, 10:39:48 AM
A good egg for my top commenter  ;) The skid plate isn't currently on the car, but I'll check that out today when I get to it. One engine mount is new, but I have yet to replace the more difficult one to get too lol.

I was also wondering if the slip yoke in the t-case needs to be greased, or if it's already lubricated by trans fluid in the NP129? If I get to it today, I think I can fix most of the little things I have left to do, which will just leave rust.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: captspillane on March 13, 2012, 03:52:49 PM
Slip yoke in the transfer case? The NP129 is solid yoke. The slip yoke is integral to the driveshafts with a grease fitting near the forward U joint.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on March 15, 2012, 02:21:06 PM
Yeah, didn't have my manual handy and couldn't remember if the yoke could be removed and greased in addition to the slip yoke in the drive shafts. I greased them and most of the clunk disappeared, so it's all good. The rest is probably just due to a worn driveline and trans mount, considering it's 30 years old.

Over the past 2 days, I finished almost every little thing left to fix before the welding work is to be done.

I installed the new tie rods and got the wheels as straight as possible without measuring. Also installed the new sway bar bushings.
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/b5571576.jpg)
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/f821dbee.jpg)

Believe it or not, my gas gauge works! After adding ~10 gallons, it registers half full.
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/6e6a06a1.jpg)

Finally tapped a new hole to install my exhaust hanger at the tailpipe, and so my exhaust is fully connected and complete! Sounds GREAT with the Magnaflow glasspack too.

I took the old hatch carpet and cleaned it up as much as possible to test fit. It looks way better than before. I'm in the process of cleaning up the floor to prep the inside of the frame for a couple coats of my remaining Rust Bullet paint. I would also like to strip the seat frames and paint them today if I get the chance.

I attempted to wire the t-case into 4wd, but didn't have a clamp for the steel cable I used. I should hopefully do that today.

The car is still having intermittent stalling and starting issues. Here it is stalled out in the yard after I accelerated and let off the gas.
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2012-03-15_12-07-38_578.jpg)

The Carter carb leaks like crazy, despite the recent rebuild and new gaskets. I was also thinking some of it might be attributed to the valve in the fuel return hose, which I have yet to reinstall. Some could also be dirt in the gas tank, but the fuel has stabilizer in it. Filter is new.

I sort of fixed the kickdown linkage thanks to captspillane's donor wagon. It showed me how everything went, more than anything, and I got a new spring for it. I'm still not positive how it's supposed to move when the throttle is pressed, so I don't know if it's adjusted correctly. Of the 4 different shop manuals I have, 3 are the same as the Eaglepedia, and the odd one that was most helpful still didn't explain it that well.

Otherwise, the car is a blast to drive and it's so exciting to see everything coming together. I wish I new how to weld, because I could get a lot of that done this week too.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on March 16, 2012, 01:39:44 PM
The Eagle gave me a lot of trouble yesterday. I didn't get to do a lot of what I wanted because I spent all day trying to get the car started to drive out of the field. Pulled off the carburetor, replaced fuel lines, installed the check valve in the return line, checked the filter, replaced the terminal to the choke wire, checked the spark plugs... all to no avail. I'm sure the engine was just ultra flooded after a little while because I did soak up a lot of gas in the intake, but I still don't know why it was being so difficult in the first place. Had to cover it up and let it sit in the rain last night.

I did start painting the seat frames though, and also did this:
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/d6cdf9a7.jpg)

Pair of tin snips, broken sledge hammer, and a cast iron vice got me there. It's a little short, but I don't think it's too bad. What do you think?
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on March 17, 2012, 02:16:09 AM
Nope. Wasted 2 days troubleshooting while the car sat in the field and rain, and even replaced the spark plugs today. After doing everything I mentioned and more, I thought to search the Nest for answers. Lo and behold, my brand new ignition coil is shot. Replaced it with the rusty old one, which I'd almost thrown away, and it fired right up.

The carb is ok after rebuilding, even though it could still probably be fine tuned, and I did find another base gasket that I overlooked replacing before. Can't afford GRONK's 2150 at the moment, but by the time I can I'll be upgrading to a fuel injected 4.0.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: doc65 on March 17, 2012, 10:28:08 AM
Baskinator,

Just a note as I'm working towards a couple swaps myself, I bought a beater XJ with a supposedly rebuilt engine(turns out that based on the compressions & how clean the valves are by looking in the ports that was accurate & not a sales ploy) for $500 as the owner as frustrated by a harmonic balancer that had seperated and he couldn't get it off.  I sold the wheels & tires, sold the t-case, used the radiator in another XJ I was fixing up to sell, scrapped the body, and I figure I got my engine/trans(4.0/AX15) for FREE and made like $250 for my trouble in pulling it.  Might be something to look at...

PS while it's out I will replace the pan gasket & seals & check the bearing since that only costs me a pan gasket which I would replace anytime I have an engine out...

Doc
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on March 17, 2012, 01:14:34 PM
Nice! I might have to scour the classifieds over summer and try something like that. My 4.0 cost almost that much alone, but it came with all brand new gaskets and almost everything I need to convert my Eagle to MPI.

Now that I put my old coil in, the car starts up every time on the first try. It seems to be running pretty rough after installing the new plugs though. Anyone have suggestions for the gap size of platinum plugs? I would have preferred to use OEM copper again, but the platinum were actually cheapest at the parts store.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Whuntmore on March 19, 2012, 01:14:09 AM
I did start painting the seat frames though, and also did this:
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/d6cdf9a7.jpg)

Pair of tin snips, broken sledge hammer, and a cast iron vice got me there. It's a little short, but I don't think it's too bad. What do you think?

I would spend the time, and get that rot outta there, and find someone who can weld in a solid floor for ya.  If you're gonna do this much work to an eagle, keeping it rust free is just as important.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on March 19, 2012, 02:27:57 AM
That's just a piece of the floor I "fabricated" to be welded in. Either my brother will weld the floor for me, or I will learn how to weld it myself. I still have plenty of other sections to fabricate, that's just what I got to with the time, tools, and material I had on hand. I have more progress and photos to post on the rust repair. It is being very thoroughly done, and I'm replacing as much of the rusty metal as I can.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Whuntmore on March 24, 2012, 01:52:30 AM
That's just a piece of the floor I "fabricated" to be welded in. Either my brother will weld the floor for me, or I will learn how to weld it myself. I still have plenty of other sections to fabricate, that's just what I got to with the time, tools, and material I had on hand. I have more progress and photos to post on the rust repair. It is being very thoroughly done, and I'm replacing as much of the rusty metal as I can.

That's awesome.  Keep up the great project.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on April 16, 2012, 01:16:04 PM
Just a few more weeks and I can get to finishing up the repairs for inspection. I haven't posted in a while because I've been busy at school, but I have a few updates and photos.

First of all, here are some things I did at the end of Spring break:

Seat mount before:
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2012-03-17_23-45-21_213.jpg)

Seat mount after:
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2b033457.jpg)

Seat mount/floor/frame before:
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/d2cbff67.jpg)

Painted driver frame and cut out rust:
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/c7d0476a.jpg)

Painted passenger frame:
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/05678da8.jpg)

Passenger seat frame before paint:
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/8b1ddff5.jpg)

After paint(mostly):
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2012-03-18_19-08-12_882.jpg)

The Eagle is starting up very easily now, and it seems to shift great. There is still a squeal coming from the engine bay, but I believe the alternator pulley has some play in it. Otherwise, it sounds and runs decent.

I did a little rock climbing in the yard ;D
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/7761d789.jpg)

Also, I was able to take a few very short drives on the straight back roads (Shhh ;)), and I had her up to about 55 or 60. She roared down the road, because of needing alignment, floors, interior, etc., but it was a real blast and shifted very well.

On another note, here is the next project (my Dad's):
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2011-12-26_16-40-22_696.jpg)

Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Prafeston on April 16, 2012, 01:26:28 PM
Looks like those floors are coming right along. Way to do it right. Can't wait to see the finished work. Also glad to hear it's driving pretty well. You should have it done and ready to drive by the summer.

Dad's new project looks like a fun one too!
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on April 16, 2012, 01:50:31 PM
Not really a new project, he parked it in near perfect condition in 1980 and it's now time to bring it back to life. 1964 Triumph TR4, I4 manual.

Thanks Rafe!
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Prafeston on April 16, 2012, 01:51:14 PM
Has he had it out in the elements with no top that whole time? That's no good!
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on April 16, 2012, 01:53:24 PM
It's moved from an enclosed shed, to an old barn/garage, to a car cover. The convertible soft top was in excellent condition until a tree fell on it last summer :(.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on May 15, 2012, 11:26:10 AM
I'm finally home for the summer, and I now have a job at a local hardware store to fund my project ;D

Here is the new rear seat mount riveted in for the passenger side. The seat frame fits perfectly and it's very strong! Will be welded later.
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2012-05-15_01-11-18_398.jpg)

I also ordered my new aluminum radiator and rear Monroe coil shocks the other night. The shocks should be here today, so I'll have them installed pronto.

Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on May 18, 2012, 01:58:33 AM
The rear end of the SX/4 is significantly higher with my new load leveling shocks. Of course, only one of the old ones was working at all anymore. Boy were they a pain to get in, my arms were sore the day after!

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/Eagle-1.jpg)

My shiny new aluminum radiator gets here tomorrow, can't wait!!!
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Prafeston on May 18, 2012, 02:22:53 AM
The back end looks great hard to tell how high it's actually sitting cause there are no fender flares.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on May 18, 2012, 02:30:55 AM
Not sure what you mean casper. The strut rod bushings are brand new, but I still need to get an alignment (when it's actually road worthy). I lined the tires up as straight as possible, though I'm sure they aren't even close to perfect. Even so, driving it a little like this won't harm anything. I've had it over 50mph on the back road behind my house a few times. No vibrations at all, just loud. The wheel might be turned a tiny bit in this picture.

Thanks Rafe. It's probably about stock height, or a little less because my leaf springs are very worn, and the coil springs in the front (though replaced) aren't brand new either. Still a great height, and better than before. There's also no outer rocker panel on this side currently, so it's deceiving.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on May 18, 2012, 03:03:12 AM
Nearly stock tires, at 205/75/R15. They're B.F. Goodrich Radial Long Trail T/A's though, and look big with full tread :)

There may be somewhat of an illusion regarding the front tire, due to camera angle and the fact that I cut out a badly rusted part of the fender at the wheel well.

Good information, I read everything that's posted here no matter how long. The wheels are straight enough that I didn't get any vibration or major pulling on the road. However, I won't be driving it much for that to matter, as it will be aligned around the same time as inspection. I replaced everything that was bad in the suspension, so there shouldn't be any major problems.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on May 24, 2012, 11:37:00 PM
How about that?
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/db9e6692.jpg)
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/64e081a9.jpg)
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/22a3e84f.jpg)

New radiator and hoses are installed, and it looks awesome. Plus, it's now better cooling capacity than stock and it won't rust! I didn't bother routing the transmission fluid through the internal cooler, since I have an external one already, but I don't think that will be necessary.

***Some obstacles I overcame in case anyone else is looking to install this radiator:
-New holes must be drilled as wide as possible so the bolts can go in easily
-The lower hose may need to be cut shorter and wiggled on in an odd way. The new tube from the radiator is much more steep than stock.
-The old fan shroud does not fit. I may end up fabbing one for the 4.0 swap, but won't worry about it now.
-My old rad bolts weren't all original, so only three would fit back in. They are tapered at the end, and screw into tiny clips.
-The rubber overflow hose will need to be longer because the filler neck is farther away and the tube faces the opposite direction.
***

I also cleaned up a bunch under the hood and put in some shiny new hardware here and there (free auction grabs from the weekend). I realized that all the nasty black soot that covered everything was coming from the insulator under the hood, so I just pulled it. Painted the hood latch too. I'll clean up the plastic overflow container and washer fluid one pretty soon.

I fabbed another floor mount for the driver seat today, but the rain kept me from installing it. I will be learning to weld in the next week or so because I got a little arc welder at auction for $15. Then it will be smooth sailing  ;)
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on May 25, 2012, 07:40:32 AM
The credit goes to Captspillane for the idea. It's a 2 row Champion all aluminum radiator from eBay, originally for a Jeep CJ7. The best part is that it cost $160 total, which is cheaper than any other radiator I've seen for this car. I would've liked more rows, but the next step up was a 4 row with built in electric fans for over $400. I thought I saw a 3 row before, but couldn't find one anywhere from the same brand.

Basically, all it really requires is to drill new mounting holes a little higher so that it will fit under the hood. It's about the same size, just with more fins and internal cooling area.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: BaldEagle on May 25, 2012, 10:23:37 AM
I'd suggest you be very careful with that arc welder and sheet metal. I have a small 110V, and it can burn through the thin stuff real easily. If you have any exhaust that needs repairing, that makes for great practice. The exhaust on my Subaru was all done with that welder, and is sound............but UuuuGLY!!!
~E
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on May 26, 2012, 11:35:50 PM
I will get in some practice before I start welding on the car. The metal I'm working with now is at least pretty thick, so hopefully it won't be too bad. My brother has done a good bit of welding in the past and can probably help me if I need it.

The sheet metal work I'm doing will be uglier than the welds anyway, and I'm going to grind them down and paint everything before the carpet is put in. I'm not worried about that at all.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: macdude443 on June 05, 2012, 08:57:17 PM
Enjoying the progress!  Next time I'm back in the area I'll have to see it in person.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on June 05, 2012, 10:29:05 PM
Absolutely! While you're around, you could also check out captspillane's sanctuary down the road and see about 7 or 8 Eagles and AMCs all in one spot. He's probably my biggest source of parts lol ;)

My seat frames are put together and solid, despite a whole bunch of previous repairs and weld globs. The passenger side now fits perfectly into the new floor mount, and now I'm working on making the driver side rear mount. I may even start painting the seat frames tonight since I have everything for it.

All that's left before inspection are rust repairs and getting the speedometer working. I've tried my hand at welding, but my welder is extremely limited. I have another one to test out, so hopefully it won't be so bad this time. Then, I can start seam sealing and painting the floors.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Prafeston on August 22, 2012, 10:26:21 AM
Just saw the news from Captspillane in another thread that the car passed PA inspection!!! Congrats man! Did you take it to school with you then?
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on August 24, 2012, 09:00:33 PM
Indeed it did, and it made the 100+ mile trip yesterday without any issues!
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/photobucket-26232-1345650740856.jpg)

Here it is just after inspection. The "missing" rocker panels weren't a problem as long as there were no sharp edges, so I was required to put the trim back on temporarily to cover it.
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/photobucket-2411-1345651036467.jpg)

I will update soon with pictures of all the repairs I've done over summer.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on September 01, 2012, 08:31:50 PM
This one's for you Rafe ;)  My SX/4 parked in front of the new apartment today.

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/2012-09-01_16-57-57_410.jpg)
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Prafeston on September 01, 2012, 10:01:08 PM
AHHHH a Festiva! :) Nice shot! I wish I had the lighter colored Aqua one. I got the darker Teal instead! Now I have to find an Eagle and snap a shot with my Festiva! I'm now calling it the Micro Machine! :)
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on September 01, 2012, 10:07:18 PM
I thought it was ironic that one showed up right next to me, so I had to take a picture. It's SOOO tiny haha.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator on December 02, 2013, 04:13:37 PM
Thought I'd update after a year so my thread doesn't disappear. The Eagle is now painted with new turbine style wheels and General Grabber AT/2 tires. I am humble to have won October EOTM over at the AMC EVO forum, but I still have a long way to go with the car. The auto choke isn't working right now and I've been getting terrible gas mileage in the cold weather, let alone poor starting. Otherwise it's been relatively reliable and I still drive 100 miles one way home every few weeks. I was able to get it to pass inspection again this year luckily. I welded the rear section of the exhaust to replace the crappy clamps, and replaced a ball joint with a torn boot. I had to put in new leaf springs to replace the old, cracked, decaying springs. This is what the one side looked like when I took off the helper springs:

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/IMG_20130820_194556_453.jpg) (http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/Baskinator/media/IMG_20130820_194556_453.jpg.html)

The other side just fell apart when I took off the u-bolts.

As you can see, I was lucky to score a rear sway bar off a wagon at the junkyard with all the hardware for $28! Put on a cheap set of fog lights I had laying around too, but someone freakin busted one off in the parking lot outside my apartment.

Here's a recent shot of the old bird
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff479/Baskinator/IMG_20131114_144945_158.jpg) (http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/Baskinator/media/IMG_20131114_144945_158.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: IowaEagle on December 02, 2013, 04:20:41 PM
Nice SX/4.  Hopefully no more posts will disappear around here.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: macdude443 on January 23, 2014, 04:03:27 PM
Your car is looking really good.  Glad to see it's been reliable for you.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: drock87 on January 23, 2014, 04:28:23 PM
I can confirm this car looks as good in person as in pictures. He has done a helluva job with it.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator4 on December 25, 2017, 02:12:06 PM
I can't believe it's been 4 years since I've posted on this thread. I have come a long way, but of course I'm still struggling with things. I would like to start updating my thread again periodically, just as soon as I figure out how to post photos (since Photobucket took a dump on us all). Facebook just doesn't cut it for me.

I've got a number of great "upgrades" and neat features added to the car, and I can't wait to start sharing.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: mudkicker715 on December 26, 2017, 04:44:02 PM
Below your posting box if you click attachments and other options you can direct post pictures here. That opens up a thing than go to where your pic is stored and select. No third party required. More safe that way.
Title: Re: Summer Job!
Post by: Baskinator4 on December 26, 2017, 09:08:08 PM
Wow that's great, thanks for the tip!

Here's my bird now