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Question and Answer / Re: Order parts for suspension rebuild - am I missing anything?
« Last post by MIPS on April 05, 2024, 07:54:18 PM »
Having shot The Parts Cannon at my Eagle, here's my pointers:

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Lower Control Arm bushing x2
Upper Control Arm Bushing x4

-The upper control arms require two bushings per side and need to be preloaded when you torque the nuts back in. You will absolutely need a spring compression tool for this. (you can borrow mine) You can also use a ball joint press tool to get these out and in. Watch for the location of the spacer ring on both sides.
-The lower control arms only have one bushing per side as you've seen and if you can help it, do not cut the bolt if it seizes in the bushing sleeve because that's also the alignment adjuster. I do not know where to source replacements.
--When pressing the old lower bushings out, you MUST fabricate a spacer for inside the control arm or you will collapse it. That also being said, AMC never expected you to replace the lower bushing separately from the control arm which included the arm, lower ball joint and the bushing as a complete unit. Both times now I've pressed out and replaced the bushing even when pressed back in I found it would wobble or "klunk" like the process of pressing the new bushing in wasn't seating it correctly. You may have to weld the bushing back into the control arm and keep in mind if you ever need to replace that bushing again, you are not going to have a fun day cutting the welds off.

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Spring Perch Bushing x2
The ones I sourced require you to destroy the old perch bushings to reuse the perch itself, then the new bushing is welded in. If these are the ones with the grease fitting, keep in mind the location of the grease nipple as it may make reassembly a lot harder.



This is also a great time to replace the shocks, since you will need to remove them anyways to get the spring tool in place. KYB's are available at Lordco.

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And I might order from them, but if I can order this from someplace else local:
standard duty leaf-suspension x2
rear leaf shackle kit x2
rear shackle bushing x2
I renewed all the bushings on the leaf springs because I could and they were still available. YMMV regarding how long they last or how much they squeak. The front bushings on the leafs were a massive pain to get the bolt out. While you have this dismantled it's also a good time to check the area for rust as this is a known problem area.
I'd also inspect the original leafs. If they are still good after a cleaning, paint and grease them and keep using them. I've heard (and this is ten year old info now) that the aftermarket leafs for Eagles aren't annealed correctly and tend to sag lower than factory.

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1) I see front springs on their site, does anyone know if those are direct replacement. Im trying to stay stock but I have yet to find springs and thought they didnt make them anymore?
I do not know as I opted to pull a replacement spring form a salvage car. What I do know is:
-The drivers and passenger side springs are different
-They like to break.

When you are renewing the upper control arms clean and inspect both springs, one at a time. If they are not cracked and the car didn't sag on one side I'd paint and reuse them.

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2) The car sways around when I hold the steering wheel straight so I constantly need to adjust - its not horrible but noticable. Everything felt tight though when I looked at it but I dont have a lift so didnt go to crazy and also know Im replacing a lot of stuff. I figure its looseness in the steering box or something like that.
Mine is the same way. Last winter when I went to have the front end aligned for new control arms they said they could not get it perfect because the steering gear was too badly worn. Good news is both Lordco and RockAuto sells both reman and new steering gears for Eagle from multiple vendors. I've been told the reman units are ok. Before you buy however, clean the top of the steering box and locate the part number stamped into the casting. Eagles could use either variable ratio or non variable ratio steering.

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3) If you can think of anything else I might need?
-In regards to the front-end, since you will pretty much be dismantling the knuckles it does not hurt to replace the pads and calipers if they are old. You can also get hardware kits with new dust boots, rattle clips and slide pins. Mine were pitted to the point it caused the brakes to bind. Beware that new discs may need to be turned right out of the box.
-This is also a good time to inspect the CV's. New axle shafts are still available but so are new boots if you don't mind cleaning, regreasing and rebooting the originals.
-Now is also a good time to service the wheel bearings. Bolt-in replacements are long out of production but a shop can press new bearings in. Watch out for the spacer washer when you remove the CV axle. Either for servicing the bearing or the CV, torquing the nut can be somewhat annoying.



Lastly, its only another 20 minutes to replace the rear shocks. You can get those off the shelf at Lordco as well but I've found both times I've replaced mine the  upper threaded portion that goes into the body and bracket is too long. You may need to cut a quarter to half an inch of thread off or it will poke a hole through the floor.
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Fuel Systems. / Re: SolVac for all Eagles?
« Last post by MIPS on April 05, 2024, 04:19:54 PM »
Eaglepedia has a pretty large set of vacuum diagrams. There are several variations for the 1983 model year.
https://amceaglesden.com/guide/Diagram_Section

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I still have an issue with the idle. At starting to low, after the engine has operation temperature it is getting to high.

Make sure your fast idle cam on the carburetor isn't sticking and the choke is opening. The two are linked together so the steps on the cam drop the idle as it warms up until the choke fully opens and unloads the cam entirely.
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Question and Answer / Order parts for suspension rebuild - am I missing anything?
« Last post by Evenprime on April 04, 2024, 04:49:41 PM »
Good day everyone.

I'm in the process of ordering parts for the eagle and I want to completely rebuild the front and rear suspension.
While Im at it, Im going to replace the brakes, brake lines, fuel lines, e-brake cables etc.

I currently have ordered and received from energy suspension:

Strut rod bushing x2
Bump Stops Front x2
Sway bar Bushing Kit x2
Lower Control Arm bushing x2
Upper Control Arm Bushing x2

I am about to order today from Energy Suspension:

Sway Bar Mounting Bushings x2
Spring Perch Bushing x2
Prothane Isolater Pads x2

* I'm also in the process of ordering Lower Control Arms from a guy on here.

Then, from Kennedy American website

Ball joint boots x2
upper ball joints x2
pitman arm and box to nut washer kit
idler arm
* Inner tie-rod x2
Outer tie-rod x2
tie-rod adjuster sleeve x2
tie-rod boots x2

And I might order from them, but if I can order this from someplace else local:
standard duty leaf-suspension x2
rear leaf shackle kit x2
rear shackle bushing x2

Questions:
1) I see front springs on their site, does anyone know if those are direct replacement. Im trying to stay stock but I have yet to find springs and thought they didnt make them anymore?

2) The car sways around when I hold the steering wheel straight so I constantly need to adjust - its not horrible but noticable. Everything felt tight though when I looked at it but I dont have a lift so didnt go to crazy and also know Im replacing a lot of stuff. I figure its looseness in the steering box or something like that.

3) If you can think of anything else I might need?

I basically am building this car to be a daily driver and figure if Im going to replace the ball joints, might as well replace everything and have it good for another 20 years.

The car is in extremely good condition but the surface rust and rubber bushings have made me want to do replace the underneath stuff. The bushings are cracked and look horrible (40 years old) but they actually still work well but I know as a daily driver, they'll fail asap.

Thank you everyone, jut looking for input before I spend a crap load of money




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Fuel Systems. / Re: SolVac for all Eagles?
« Last post by Taylor on April 04, 2024, 10:05:07 AM »
This might help too.
Vacuum map.
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Fuel Systems. / Re: SolVac for all Eagles?
« Last post by krimmth on April 04, 2024, 04:16:28 AM »
Thank you for the hint! I found several disconnected vacuum lines. After reconnection the engine runs a bit smoother. However I am not sure if somebody has removed something. The old boy has still a lot of vacuum lines.
I still have an issue with the idle. At starting to low, after the engine has operation temperature it is getting to high.
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Off topic / Re: Retaining and Gaining Members and Moderation Help
« Last post by 89 MJ on April 02, 2024, 05:30:01 PM »
Its too bad that we are living in the decline of forums due to other social media platforms. I know that I am newer hear, but I am not new to forums. I have been over on Comanche Club for almost 6 years at this point, which has had a steady number of members in that time. This leads me to have a couple questions for the moderation team:
1. I see that lots of subforum moderators have not been active in months, if not years. Do you need help moderating? I could moderate a few subforums.
2. Is there anything that we can do to help grow the population of this site? There is way more information here than on Facebook, it just doesn't seem to get a ton of eyes on it. I have some ideas, but I don't want to be stepping on anyone's toes here either.

Hey, just wanted to get back to you on your offers.  The admins talked it over, and feel at this time we don't necessarily need to add any moderators, just because there isn't much activity that requires attention.  Second, if you have any suggestions on how to get new members, retain old members, or increase traffic on this site, we'd be glad to hear them.  It's a shame that it's so quiet here anymore, it was a very thriving community when I joined in 2008.  Thanks again for volunteering to help.

Sounds good, I will send you a PM. It really is a shame how quiet it is.
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Camping Eagles / Re: Eagle Wagon Tent (Again)
« Last post by 89 MJ on April 02, 2024, 05:29:23 PM »
Den member Rollguy made/modified a tent for his wagon.  You might want to reach out to him, I don't think he is on here very often anymore.  Good luck, show us pictures of the finished product!

Will do! I'll reach out to him
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Off topic / Re: Retaining and Gaining Members and Moderation Help
« Last post by vangremlin on April 02, 2024, 04:25:38 PM »
Its too bad that we are living in the decline of forums due to other social media platforms. I know that I am newer hear, but I am not new to forums. I have been over on Comanche Club for almost 6 years at this point, which has had a steady number of members in that time. This leads me to have a couple questions for the moderation team:
1. I see that lots of subforum moderators have not been active in months, if not years. Do you need help moderating? I could moderate a few subforums.
2. Is there anything that we can do to help grow the population of this site? There is way more information here than on Facebook, it just doesn't seem to get a ton of eyes on it. I have some ideas, but I don't want to be stepping on anyone's toes here either.

Hey, just wanted to get back to you on your offers.  The admins talked it over, and feel at this time we don't necessarily need to add any moderators, just because there isn't much activity that requires attention.  Second, if you have any suggestions on how to get new members, retain old members, or increase traffic on this site, we'd be glad to hear them.  It's a shame that it's so quiet here anymore, it was a very thriving community when I joined in 2008.  Thanks again for volunteering to help.
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Camping Eagles / Re: Eagle Wagon Tent (Again)
« Last post by vangremlin on April 02, 2024, 04:20:33 PM »
Den member Rollguy made/modified a tent for his wagon.  You might want to reach out to him, I don't think he is on here very often anymore.  Good luck, show us pictures of the finished product!
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Camping Eagles / Eagle Wagon Tent (Again)
« Last post by 89 MJ on April 02, 2024, 03:38:34 PM »
I am wanting to buy/make a tent for my wagon, similar to the liftback Hornets had in the 70s. Does anyone have a picture of one? All of the pictures I've found do not show up.
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