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#1
MIPS,

I don't understand. MOOG ES368RL is counter-clockwise threaded:
https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=202261&cc=1004443&pt=7428&jsn=413.

Is the Eagle inner tie rod supposed to be normally threaded (clockwise) or reverse-thread (counter-clockwise, left-hand, etc.)? There are posts on here an other forums stating that the inner tie rod is reverse-thread, just like the ES368RL.

What I used in my original post as the MOOG "Inner" was actually sold to me as an "Outer" by RockAuto several years ago (Moog inner tie rods were unavailable by that point), but I was confident it was identical in length and design to an inner and would serve to illustrate the length difference appropriately. It's normally threaded (clockwise). Now if you're telling me that the inner tie rod is supposed to be clockwise, well then I must have been incredibly lucky to have such a mix up in my favor.





#2
Okay, so at extreme expense (two RareParts 26181 Inner Toe Rods cost me $430cad) I have purchased both a set of RareParts inner tie rod ends, a pair of Mevotech outer tie rod ends and the Moog substitute Hornet outer tie rod.



I have the tie rods each threaded into the adjusters about 3/4 of an inch. As observed the Moog substitute if squared up is indeed half an inch shorter, so you would need to thread it further up the sleeve to make up for missing thread length.

PROBLEM #1

The Moog substitution will not work.
QuoteOuter tie rods from Hornets, Spirits, Concords, Gremlins, Javelins, etc. (MOOG ES368RL) have the correct taper, and thread sizes. They also have correct counter-clockwise adjusting thread
This is wrong. Visually if you compare the two the threads are going opposite directions. If you assemble a tie rod set with the outer, the substitute sleeve and the substitute inner you will notice it will not squarely thread in and immediately bind.



Think about this for a second. If both ends of the adjuster have the same direction thread the sleeve just moves left to right/right to left and does nothing. If the threads are going opposite directions if you turn the adjuster one way it pushes the tie rod ends out and the other direction pulls them back in.

This is incredibly frustrating because like you said, if you take the RareParts outer and the Mevotech inner....



It's the same fscking part. All measurements are identical. The taper is identical. It's just threaded normally and the other is threaded in reverse.
#3
Off topic / Re: Anyone watching the Super ...
Last post by Taylor - February 09, 2025, 10:16:36 PM
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#4
Off topic / Anyone watching the Super Bowl...
Last post by 89 MJ - February 09, 2025, 07:55:47 PM
I'm not much of a sports fan, but I'd prefer the Eagles to win because everybody seems to like the Chiefs.

This is where I really stand though:
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#5
4X4 and Driveline / Re: "Shift on the Fly"
Last post by mdante17 - February 09, 2025, 12:31:28 AM
Ahh..now I understand. Thank you.
#6
4X4 and Driveline / Re: "Shift on the Fly"
Last post by rmick - February 08, 2025, 11:58:46 PM
The front disconnect axle has no way to sync speed between the rh axle and the front diff. You have to stop engage and slowly drive to engage coupling. It is possible to lock the front disconnect into position and redo the vacuum lines to make it shift on the fly. Eliminates a lot of the vacuum plumbing. http://amceaglesden.com/guide/Front_Axle_Lock
#7
4X4 and Driveline / "Shift on the Fly"
Last post by mdante17 - February 08, 2025, 09:52:56 PM
Simple question. Why can the 81-84 models not "shift on the fly"? Thank you
#8
Hatchlings / Re: New guy and his '82 Eagle ...
Last post by 4x4jollyr - February 07, 2025, 06:40:23 AM
Nice looking wagon! It looks like Sport package, w black plastic fender flares. I'm surprised the bumpers aren't black. My 2 81s are.
Whats the trans? 5spd wagons are 👌 .
Any upgrade by PO?

Good luck and good catch!
#9
Hatchlings / Re: New guy and his '82 Eagle ...
Last post by SlickEagle - February 07, 2025, 02:57:57 AM
Quote from: 89 MJ on February 06, 2025, 08:28:10 PMLooks like a pretty decent car, and a great price at that! Where abouts in IA are you, I'm from SW WI, not too far from Decorah, IA.

I'm in the central Iowa area!
#10
Hatchlings / Re: New guy and his '82 Eagle ...
Last post by vangremlin - February 06, 2025, 11:34:08 PM
Congrats on your new Eagle!
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