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Offline dkoug

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Plugs Specifications for 258 cu in
« on: September 10, 2011, 10:05:46 PM »
My 82 Eagle Limited the last few months has been rough at idle with the brakes on.

Noticed when put into neutral the roughness mostly disappears.

Today is refuses to idle.

Would new plugs solve this and what plugs for a stock 278,000 klm (Canadian car) be used.

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Re: Plugs Specifications for 258 cu in
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2011, 11:21:01 AM »
Doesn't sound like a plug problem.  Sounds like vacuum/carb problem.
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Re: Plugs Specifications for 258 cu in
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2011, 07:21:14 AM »
Real bad vacuum leak!!  Check all you hoses and check valve at the booster, or the booster may be the problem too!!

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Re: Plugs Specifications for 258 cu in
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2011, 12:45:42 PM »
Hi

Not being a mechanic type, can you direct me how to find the Booster???

My mechanic suggest needs carburetor cleaned???????

He has it running better but still stalls when put into gear.

Also stalls when turning a corner which would relate to the power steering putting a load on the engine.

  How would I determine if the Booster is the problem.

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Re: Plugs Specifications for 258 cu in
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2011, 01:42:31 PM »
First step. Check all the vacuum lines for cracks/leaks.
Include in this check the thicker line that goes from the back of the carb to the big black round disc high on the firewall on the driver's side. The master brake cylinder is bolted on the front of this.

Well that's interesting. The diagrams in the Eaglepedia show both with and without a brake booster...

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Re: Plugs Specifications for 258 cu in
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2011, 03:38:59 PM »
Thaks for the suggestiojn,

question, does the brake booster compensate for the additional load when turning (power steering) and putting gear into drive.

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Re: Plugs Specifications for 258 cu in
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2011, 12:28:29 PM »
question, does the brake booster compensate for the additional load when turning (power steering) and putting gear into drive.

Brake booster uses vacuum to provide a greater braking force when you apply the brakes.

The engine isn't running right. The first step (and cheapest) is to eliminate/fix any vacuum problems.

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Re: Plugs Specifications for 258 cu in
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2011, 01:37:56 PM »
Tocheck if it is your booster you could unplug it and cap it off at the manifold. However now you have no power assist to your brakes.  So its extremely hard to stop.



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Re: Plugs Specifications for 258 cu in
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2011, 10:54:06 AM »
I'll bet you have a PCV line leak or an advance'purge leak.  I see this all the time and it's simple to fix.  The booster will enhance these leaks as it has a direct manifold connection.  N U T T E R the system and eliminate all the unneeded vac lines.  Better solution, add an MC carb and eliminate all but 2 vacuum lines.  Half of the carbs I replace are not running correctly because of vacuum lines.
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Re: Plugs Specifications for 258 cu in
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2011, 02:48:02 PM »
I'll bet you have a PCV line leak or an advance'purge leak.  I see this all the time and it's simple to fix.  The booster will enhance these leaks as it has a direct manifold connection.  N U T T E R the system and eliminate all the unneeded vac lines. ... Half of the carbs I replace are not running correctly because of vacuum lines.
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Easier as it's a sure solution (eliminating sources of problems rather than trying to find & fix). Better performance too.

...Better solution, add an MC carb and eliminate all but 2 vacuum lines...
I'm considering this for mine, but not sold yet.
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Re: Plugs Specifications for 258 cu in
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2011, 06:28:25 PM »
If you do get interested let me know.  I still have the special running for Nest Members.  You save some $$ and the nest gets a $5 donation.  I also have a non-feedback carter too.
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Re: Plugs Specifications for 258 cu in
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2011, 08:39:08 PM »
Gronk

curious about the MC Carb. cost and installation difficulties.

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Re: Plugs Specifications for 258 cu in
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2011, 11:38:38 AM »
 Motorcraft 2150 Carburetor Conversion for the 4.2/258 - Ready to Install
http://forums.amceaglenest.com/index.php?topic=36250.0

As part of that setup, you get the Diagnostic ECM Test (bypasses the ECM stuff for testing - search).

Also recommend TFI high voltage coil upgrade. Nothing to do with your problem, but another great improvement in fuel economy and performance. In addition to a new high voltage coil, to handle the higher voltage it uses: new distributor cap, cap adapter, wires & larger spark plug gap. Search the nest.
Note: if getting the TFI coil from a junk-yard, the TFI Ignition Module doesn't work with Eagle distributor - wrong type of sensor.

Along with the TFI upgrade, you can upgrade to the GM 4-pin HEI Ignition Module . Has four electrical connections plus it has to be bolted to ground (and the back is also the heat-sink to the inner fender). This does a better job of spark control and it handles higher voltage. With it in place along with the TFI, you can permanently bypass the Ballast Resistor (in series with coil when running, bypassed for full voltage to coil when starting while turning the starter over). Get a quality one, they'll shut down if overheated; cheap ones burn out.


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Re: Plugs Specifications for 258 cu in
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2011, 11:42:16 PM »
dkoug, I have a current nest special of $325 shipped for the carb conversion, electric choke, air cleaner/crank case breather and a $5 donation to the nest.  Shipping is also included.

Kit comes ready to go.  I do just about everything for you.

See the For Sale section for more info.
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Re: Plugs Specifications for 258 cu in
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2011, 04:19:44 PM »
The BBD isn't that bad of a carb - when all is set up right and no leaks. Just takes a bit of fiddling, like any other.
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